• Apple wields its ban hammer: Samsung Galaxy Nexus now banned for sale in the US

    Earlier this week Samsung was forced to stop selling the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the US. Now they're not allowed to sell the Galaxy Nexus because it infringes on Apple's patent regarding universal search.

    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Samsung-...ews-15726.html

    What's next? iBan?
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    1. sable's Avatar
      sable -
      I will not use any Apple product.

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    1. Sepurb's Avatar
      Sepurb -
      I admire Apple's ZERO tolerance for theft.

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    1. ilvla2's Avatar
      ilvla2 -
      Apple reminds me of two kids at the beach, Apple the kid comes along and builds a cool sand castle, the other kid, Google comes along, improves upon the design and builds a much cooler sand castle. To make a long story short, Apple kid throws a fit like a baby, says not fair, not fair, and destroys everybody's sand castle. Apple=SPOILED BRAT!
    1. Sepurb's Avatar
      Sepurb -
      Quote Originally Posted by ilvla2 View Post
      Apple reminds me of two kids at the beach, Apple the kid comes along and builds a cool sand castle, the other kid, Google comes along, improves upon the design and builds a much cooler sand castle. To make a long story short, Apple kid throws a fit like a baby, says not fair, not fair, and destroys everybody's sand castle. Apple=SPOILED BRAT!
      Google: I like your sand castle and even if I do allegedly improve on it I still want to 100% use yours as the foundation for mine.

      unfortunately, the law disagrees with this brilliant plan. only criminals refuse to acknowledge the law.

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    1. avNY87's Avatar
      avNY87 -
      Based on a broken patent system that gives patents for technologies that have existed previously. This is ridiculous.
    1. ron6400's Avatar
      ron6400 -
      Shame on apple.
      even my 8 year nephew is more well behaved and know the meaning of competition.
    1. mch's Avatar
      mch -
      Quote Originally Posted by avNY87 View Post
      Based on a broken patent system that gives patents for technologies that have existed previously. This is ridiculous.
      I agree. Apple, Samsung, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, HTC, etc. are accumulating patents to both defend themselves and attack competitors. Patents are often granted for routine engineering or techniques which are well known or just obvious. It is all part of the corporate game - keeps the lawyers employed.

      The patent system was designed for and worked well in a different era, an era before software. I can't really blame Apple. Everyone is playing this game. Samsung is also suing Apple on multiple fronts in multiple countries. Apple just won a round in the absurd never ending battle.

      Wouldn't it be great if companies just concentrated on making the best product possible and marketing it well?
    1. Loansharkie's Avatar
      Loansharkie -
      Crazy how this whole thing works.... As a supplier for Apple Samsung generates about 8 percent of its revenues. My friend is my enemy. Just part of the game... They're crunching roi on what the legal expenses are. Would be nice if some intelligent Judges establish some very liberal fair use case law as precedent, so that these things happen less frequently and the money is thrown at innovation/improvement. Didn't Jobs totally rip off the Xerox's technology at Menlo Park? He was an Aesthete who understood consumers, not a technology innovator. He also said something along the lines of; to paraphrase something he said in "Pirates of Silicone Valley", Great Entrepreneurs don't really innovate... They Steal... A corporation's primary function is it's fiduciary responsibility to make money for its shareholders (at least in theory). Make the lawsuit incentive go away and we have a much more constructive playing field.
    1. avNY87's Avatar
      avNY87 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mch View Post
      I agree. Apple, Samsung, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, HTC, etc. are accumulating patents to both defend themselves and attack competitors. Patents are often granted for routine engineering or techniques which are well known or just obvious. It is all part of the corporate game - keeps the lawyers employed.

      The patent system was designed for and worked well in a different era, an era before software. I can't really blame Apple. Everyone is playing this game. Samsung is also suing Apple on multiple fronts in multiple countries. Apple just won a round in the absurd never ending battle.

      Wouldn't it be great if companies just concentrated on making the best product possible and marketing it well?
      Exactly. All these companies talk about innovation, yet they do little if at all.

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    1. ilvla2's Avatar
      ilvla2 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sepurb View Post
      Google: I like your sand castle and even if I do allegedly improve on it I still want to 100% use yours as the foundation for mine.

      unfortunately, the law disagrees with this brilliant plan. only criminals refuse to acknowledge the law.

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      Paid for by the committee to elect Apple Computer.
    1. ilvla2's Avatar
      ilvla2 -
      Apple is just like the company they said they were against in the 1984 commercial, hypocrites and bullies.
    1. greenbears's Avatar
      greenbears -
      Let's say Apple manages to prove in court that Samsung violated Apples patents
      and the court block all Galaxy Nexus sales in this country forever....

      Are we as the consumer entitle to compensation from Samsung because they
      sold us patent-infringing products? I should probably talk to some lawyers
      who specialize in class action suits. Those lawyers can use some extra money
      for a new vacation home or yacht.(and a couple of $5 coupons for me if they
      win)
    1. turbogeek's Avatar
      turbogeek -
      Quote Originally Posted by avNY87 View Post
      Based on a broken patent system that gives patents for technologies that have existed previously. This is ridiculous.
      If that were true in this case, all Samsung's lawyers had to do was show proof of prior art to have the patent invalidated. If that is true, then Samsung's lawyers were negligent.
    1. Steve Adams's Avatar
      Steve Adams -
      Google should just countersuit with the all new all amazing all apple notification drop down bar. Funny, I saw that three years ago on some other device I used to own, oh yeah, my HTC hero. Back when it was kicking the iPhone 3gs ***.

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    1. AppleMac's Avatar
      AppleMac -
      Quote Originally Posted by Loansharkie View Post
      Didn't Jobs totally rip off the Xerox's technology at Menlo Park?
      No. This is a misconception perpetuated by the comments of Bill Gates, in Pirates of Silicon Valley film. Jobs heard about what they were doing at PARC and negotiated a deal with Xerox to access their research. Xerox was allowed to invest $1,000,000 in Apple Pre IPOD and apple got to view and copy Xerox's technology. Xerox had tried and failed to market their technologies and didn't feel it was truly very valuable. Also, the majority of the Mac OS was developed from scratch. Only the most basic elements of the GUI were adopted into Mac OS.
    1. frail's Avatar
      frail -
      If Apple can sue for slide to unlock, Google should sue for the blatant ripoff that Notification Center is.
    1. migo's Avatar
      migo -
      For Google to sue for notifications, they'd need to have a patent on it.
    1. Steveanderson13's Avatar
      Steveanderson13 -
      Quote Originally Posted by frail View Post
      If Apple can sue for slide to unlock, Google should sue for the blatant ripoff that Notification Center is.
      Agreed. Some things are just a joke, imo. Slide-to-unlock for one. I have to install No Lock to get rid of it, lol.
    1. nteeman's Avatar
      nteeman -
      Shame on Apple, it's not like they haven't borrowed ideas - but somehow they think it is OK when they do it but not when someone else does. No Apple devices for me either.
    1. kEiThZ's Avatar
      kEiThZ -
      The USA seriously needs to have a discussion on patent exclusivity.

      While some exclusivity as a reward for innovation is entirely valid, it strikes me as entirely egregious to grant the same 20 year exclusivity on UI patents that say Bayer got for formulating Aspirin or Boeing gets for coming up with a better airfoil design. The reward is entirely disproportionate to the effort when it comes to IT/web/business method patents.

      Hopefully this decision will prompt that discussion.

      Aside from that, Samsung needs to do some soul-searching. They keep thinking they have their cake and eat it too. Is it not clear to them that Apple wants nothing more than for Samsung, LG, etc. to become low-margin component suppliers? It's time they decided whether it's worth doing business with Apple and supplying them their best components from one division, only to turn around and see another division get embroiled in a global court battle. Pick a side. Either become a low margin, high volume, component supplier or become a high margin handset maker and drop Apple. It's the only way Apple will ever play nice.....when they start running out of component suppliers who can give them the best for the least.