• Our live coverage of the Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 launch.

    Stephen Elop is coming to the stage

    18 months ago, Nokia unveiled their new strategy. They realized it's gone from a war of devices to a war of ecosystems.

    In 6 months Nokia brought the Lumia 800 and 710. Reminds us that the 800 is the first 'real' Windows Phones.

    They helped Microsoft expand to lower points and into new markets. Apparently China is the biggest Windows Phone market.

    Here in the 'States they brought the 900 and 710 to AT&T and T-Mo respectively.

    over 100,000 apps in the marketplace. now growing 3x faster than before Nokia joined.

    Now talking about Asha, trying to use those to connect another 1B users to the mobile phone market.

    Mentions that Nokia has stabilized their phone business in the last quarter.

    Now talking about the 3rd part of their business - their future disruptions. Maps, optics, etc.

    Nokia maps will be embedded into Windows Phone.

    Jo Harlow, Executive Pres of Nokia is now up.

    They're now showing a pretty epic video of a new Lumia device. Couldn't help noticing it has a Snapdragon processor.



    The new Lumia is called The Nokia Lumia 920.

    Includes Pureview camera

    Nokia City Lens

    Nokia Pure motion HD Plus

    Built in wireless charging

    "This is Nokia, and it's time to switch"

    Now talking about PureView. 2012 will be the year the number of pictures taken with mobile phones will surpass those taken with regular cameras.

    Talking about how slow shutter speeds result in blurry pictures. The Pureview camera captures 5x to 10x the amount of light that competitors does. The camera has 'floating lens' technology to help reduce blur (I'm guessing she's talking about image stabilization).

    Yes, it's IS. It's used in videos too.

    Now talking about navigation. It's supposed to be one of the reasons why people choose a Lumia. They're bringing their navigation products together into an integrated Location suite. Mentioning offline maps - not just cached maps. Daily commute feature will tell you how long it will take to get to work. It will tell you what time you have to leave. Nokia Transit includes how much time it takes to get to the next stop and how much time you have to spend at statioin



    Nokia city lens is an augmented reality apps. Nokia maps will also get augmented reality.

    This is cool, set a route in Nokia maps and use the augmented reality feature to see where you have to go. No more having to figure out which direction to go.

    Nokia Pure Motion HD Plus is the name of the display. 4.5" curved glass display with 'better than HD resolution'.

    The colour tone (and brightness) adjust automatically in bright sunlight.

    2000mAh battery, Qualcomm S4 Snapdragon processor. Up to 30% more efficient that 'quad core alternatives'.

    Wireless charger. One accessory is the 'fatboy wireless charging pillow'. It's based on the Qi wireless charger standard (woohoo, standards)

    Virgin Atantic will place charging plates at their lounge in Heathrow. Coffee Bean will also place charging plates in their stores.

    Joe Belfiore is now on stage talking about Windows Phone 8.

    You can now take screenshots with Windows Phone 8 (finally)

    The camera apps supports lenses from WITHIN the camera. Basically, instead of using a separate app that controls your camera you can select the app from within the camera app.

    There's tap to share via NFC.

    Kevin Shields

    920 introduces new colours: Yellow, Red, Grey in addition on Black and White.

    920 is stronger than the 900. Strong body and glass. Polycarbonate body is good for RF. Nothing to block RF.

    Strip on the back where the camera is doesn't scratch easily now.

    It looks like a giant Lumia 800 (that's a good thing).

    It's a LCD display. They say it's the fastest LCD display available (fastest pixel transition) and brightest.

    WXGA resolution (1280x768).

    The display has super sensitive technology. You can use it with gloves (good for the winter). It has 2 modes, bare skin and with gloves on.

    Nokia Music is coming to the 'States. Try downloading it now.

    Cool NFC/wireless charging accessory from JBL (I'll upload a video of it later).

    Now talking about exclusive apps that come with the Lumia. Out of the box location apps.

    New Rovio game called Angry Birds Roost coming to Lumia.

    Now talking about the camera 'lenses' again. Cool! say you're at a gallery and want to take a picture of someone. Your subject stands in the center of the frame while random people are walking around. You can use this lens to REMOVE the other people. < applause > Very, very cool

    Nokia Lumia 820 just announced. Polycarbonate unibody, Carl Zeiss lens, 4.3" clearback display, NFC.

    the back shell pops off, 1650mAh battery. (how is it a unibody?)

    Yellow, red, blue, purple, grey, white and black shells

    Also have wireless charging shells (optional).

    Steve Balmer is on stage now.

    I'll have a hand-on and some demos later.
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    1. jonspurs's Avatar
      jonspurs -
      Quote Originally Posted by howard View Post
      I'm going to be at the Nokia - Windows Phone 8 event in New York on the 5th. Is there anything you guys want me to check out? Got any questions you want me to ask?
      Nice...yes please...if they don't have a xenon flash and proper PureView massive sensor size in their new Lumias, ask them why the hell not?! And when will they release one?

      Cheers!
      Jon
    1. DP102288's Avatar
      DP102288 -
      CDMA phones!!
    1. drunkgoat's Avatar
      drunkgoat -
      Can you ask them why they will not release the network setup application in the Canadian market place. Without this it is not possible to set up MMS settings when switching between providers (e.g. Rogers to Bell) as WP7 does not allow for configuring those settings out of the box.

      There was a large uproar on the nokia forums in the spring, and the app was released in the US marketplace in July, but Nokia failed to do the same for Canada.

      Here's the lengthy discussion on the topic:
      http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Noki...p/td-p/1373783
    1. KingBuzzo's Avatar
      KingBuzzo -
      I wish I was there...
    1. elimcgrubber's Avatar
      elimcgrubber -
      Nokia Music in the US?
    1. NickC's Avatar
      NickC -
      I would love to know whether the 920 is definitely as thick as current Lumia, and if so, will it also have a much bigger battery?

      With most smartphones well under 10mm I don't know why they are making such thick phones - 12+ mm. But if that thickness is because of a monster battery I'm game! :-)
    1. BetterOfDead's Avatar
      BetterOfDead -
      The exact date of windows 7.8 would be much appreciated.
      Sent from my SGH-i677 using Board Express
    1. KingBuzzo's Avatar
      KingBuzzo -
      anyone have a link to the NYC event to stream?
    1. rambo47's Avatar
      rambo47 -
      Quote Originally Posted by elimcgrubber View Post
      Nokia Music in the US?
      Nokia has announced their music service is now available in the US for Lumia users:

      http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/04/nokia-...710-lumia-900/
    1. rambo47's Avatar
      rambo47 -
      Both BGR.com and Engadget.com are doing live blog coverage.

      Nokia World 2012 is by invitation only so I doubt there is a live stream of the event.
      http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/nokiaworld/
    1. howard's Avatar
      howard -
      I'll be covering the event here too.
    1. KingBuzzo's Avatar
      KingBuzzo -
      I meant the WP8 event in NYC this morning.

      Thanks
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      howard -
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    1. howard's Avatar
      howard -
      Stephen Elop is coming to the stage

      18 months ago, Nokia unveiled their new strategy. They realized it's gone from a war of devices to a war of ecosystems.

      In 6 months Nokia brought the Lumia 800 and 710. Reminds us that the 800 is the first 'real' Windows Phones.

      They helped Microsoft expand to lower points and into new markets. Apparently China is the biggest Windows Phone market.

      Here in the 'States they brought the 900 and 710 to AT&T and T-Mo respectively.

      over 100,000 apps in the marketplace. now growing 3x faster than before Nokia joined.

      Now talking about Asha, trying to use those to connect another 1B users to the mobile phone market.

      Mentions that Nokia has stabilized their phone business in the last quarter.

      Now talking about the 3rd part of their business - their future disruptions. Maps, optics, etc.

      Nokia maps will be embedded into Windows Phone.

      Jo Harlow, Executive Pres of Nokia is now up.

      They're now showing a pretty epic video of a new Lumia device. Couldn't help noticing it has a Snapdragon processor.



      The new Lumia is called The Nokia Lumia 920.

      Includes Pureview camera

      Nokia City Lens

      Nokia Pure motion HD Plus

      Built in wireless charging

      "This is Nokia, and it's time to switch"

      Now talking about PureView. 2012 will be the year the number of pictures taken with mobile phones will surpass those taken with regular cameras.

      Talking about how slow shutter speeds result in blurry pictures. The Pureview camera captures 5x to 10x the amount of light that competitors does. The camera has 'floating lens' technology to help reduce blur (I'm guessing she's talking about image stabilization).

      Yes, it's IS. It's used in videos too.

      Now talking about navigation. It's supposed to be one of the reasons why people choose a Lumia. They're bringing their navigation products together into an integrated Location suite. Mentioning offline maps - not just cached maps. Daily commute feature will tell you how long it will take to get to work. It will tell you what time you have to leave. Nokia Transit includes how much time it takes to get to the next stop and how much time you have to spend at statioin



      Nokia city lens is an augmented reality apps. Nokia maps will also get augmented reality.

      This is cool, set a route in Nokia maps and use the augmented reality feature to see where you have to go. No more having to figure out which direction to go.

      Nokia Pure Motion HD Plus is the name of the display. 4.5" curved glass display with 'better than HD resolution'.

      The colour tone (and brightness) adjust automatically in bright sunlight.

      2000mAh battery, Qualcomm S4 Snapdragon processor. Up to 30% more efficient that 'quad core alternatives'.

      Wireless charger. One accessory is the 'fatboy wireless charging pillow'. It's based on the Qi wireless charger standard (woohoo, standards)

      Virgin Atantic will place charging plates at their lounge in Heathrow. Coffee Bean will also place charging plates in their stores.

      Joe Belfiore is now on stage talking about Windows Phone 8.

      You can now take screenshots with Windows Phone 8 (finally)

      The camera apps supports lenses from WITHIN the camera. Basically, instead of using a separate app that controls your camera you can select the app from within the camera app.

      There's tap to share via NFC.

      Kevin Shields

      920 introduces new colours: Yellow, Red, Grey in addition on Black and White.

      920 is stronger than the 900. Strong body and glass. Polycarbonate body is good for RF. Nothing to block RF.

      Strip on the back where the camera is doesn't scratch easily now.

      It looks like a giant Lumia 800 (that's a good thing).

      It's a LCD display. They say it's the fastest LCD display available (fastest pixel transition) and brightest.

      WXGA resolution (1280x768).

      The display has super sensitive technology. You can use it with gloves (good for the winter). It has 2 modes, bare skin and with gloves on.

      Nokia Music is coming to the 'States. Try downloading it now.

      Cool NFC/wireless charging accessory from JBL (I'll upload a video of it later).

      Now talking about exclusive apps that come with the Lumia. Out of the box location apps.

      New Rovio game called Angry Birds Roost coming to Lumia.

      Now talking about the camera 'lenses' again. Cool! say you're at a gallery and want to take a picture of someone. Your subject stands in the center of the frame while random people are walking around. You can use this lens to REMOVE the other people. < applause > Very, very cool

      Nokia Lumia 820 just announced. Polycarbonate unibody, Carl Zeiss lens, 4.3" clearblack display, NFC.

      the back shell pops off, 1650mAh battery. (how is it a unibody?)

      Yellow, red, blue, purple, grey, white and black shells

      Also have wireless charging shells (optional).

      Steve Balmer is on stage now.

      New devices look great. Can't wait to get my hands on one. I'll post some pictures and video once I get my hands on one.

      No specific launch date yet but devices are coming in Q4 2012

      Haha, someone asked what Nokia thinks about Samsung announcing the ATIV S a few days before the 920 and 820 launch. Elop says he's happy to unveil the first WORKING Windows Phone 8. LMAO.

      My question is if Nokia is coming out with a Lumia with a bigger than 5" display. Not disclosing any future product plans... "We're on a journey to do more innovative work around WP. there's more excitement to come..."

      Is Nokia developing a RT Tablet? Elop gives a vague answer - they're looking at it closely.

      In general, most WP7 apps should work on WP8.

      Pureview means 'great photographic experiences'.
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    1. Dr Tran's Avatar
      Dr Tran -
      Quote Originally Posted by howard View Post
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      If Howard had a Lumia 920, this photo wouldn't be so blurry
    1. howard's Avatar
      howard -
      Here's my hands-on with the Lumia 920 and 820. hands on may not be the best way to put it since we weren't allowed to actually handle the devices. It's more of a hands-off with the 820 and 920.

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      I brought my Lumia 800 and 900 along.

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      microUSB and speakers are on the bottom. Not sure if the screws will be present on a production 920

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      The screen is 4.5" with a resolution of 1280x768. It's a LCD display. Nokia says it's the brightest screen available but to my eye it didn't seem any brighter than the competion.

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      Nokia Lumia 820
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      Some wireless charging pods. I have to run to an interview now. I'll update this with more later.
    1. howard's Avatar
      howard -
      Attachment 84604
      Lumia 920

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      Lumia 820

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      Lumia 920 on wireless charger.

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      Lumia 820 with the backplate off. It has a removable 1650mAh battery.

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      Note the SIM card slot and MicroSD slot below it.

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      Lumia 920, Lumia 900. They're about the same thickness.

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      Lumia 820, 920, 900 and 800.



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      Lumia 920 next to my Galaxy S III.

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      Red isn't my colour but it looks good on the 820.
    1. howard's Avatar
      howard -
      Here's my report on Nokia's Lumia 820 and 920 launch.

      I'm here in New York where Nokia is launching 2 new Windows Phones. The Lumia 920 and Lumia 820.


      The Lumia 920 is the higher end phone with a 4.5" 1280x768 600 nit IPS LCD, 8.7MP Pureview camera with optical image stabilization, a polycarbonate unibody and a 2000mAh battery. I noticed during the demo that Joe Belfiore's 920 was connected to LTE whereas someone else who looked like they were from Europe had 4G. According to the Forum Nokia page the 920 supports LTE Band 1 (2100), LTE Band 20 (800), LTE Band 3 (1800), LTE Band 7 (2600), LTE Band 8 (900). Not sure if this one version of the 920 supports all these LTE bands or if they're mentioning all the bands the different 920 variants support. Note that LTE on AWS isn't listed - so I'm guessing those specs are for the 'Euro' variant.

      Powering all this is a 1.5Ghz dual core Snapdragon S4 processor (like some Samsung GS3 and HTC One X variants along with the Motorola ATRIX). You get 1GB of RAM and 32GB of storage. The storage is not expandable.

      The screen has a brightness level of 600nits. Just for reference the Xperia ION (another extremely bright phone) measures 500nits so the 920's screen will probably work amazing even in direct sunlight.

      One neat feature with the 920 is that you can use it with gloves on. That should be useful for people living in cold climates.



      Like I said it's a 8.7MP camera with optical (not just digital) image stabilization. The entire camera assembly is mounted on a spring so it can help cancel camera shake. This allows for smoother videos plus it allows you to hold the shutter open longer (less noise). The camera has a f/2.0 lens. I can't wait to try this camera out on my daughter.



      There's NFC support along with wireless charging which supports the Qi wireless charging standard. Inside is a non-removable 2000mAh battery.

      It will be available in Yellow, Red, Black, White, Gray.

      With it's 4.5" display it's a little bit bigger than the Lumia 900 though the size is still pretty manageable.



      The Lumia 820 is a upper-midrange device. While it has a 4.3" LCD display I'm a little disappointed that the resolution is only 800x480 (like the Lumia 900). Still, it's powered by a Snapdragon S4 processor so I'm guessing the graphics performance is going to be incredible with so few pixels to push.

      Like the 920 forum Nokia says that there's support for LTE Band 1 (2100), LTE Band 20 (800), LTE Band 3 (1800), LTE Band 7 (2600), LTE Band 8 (900). Very impressive is this is from just one version of the device.

      There's 1GB of RAM and a paltry 8GB of storage. Still, you can expand it using MicroSDHC cards so the small amount of storage isn't really an issue.



      the back covers can be exchanged. The battery, SIM card and MicroSDHC are located behind the cover.

      There's NFC and support for Qi wireless charging via an optional cover.

      Inside they'll be running Windows Phone 8. It's an evolution of Windows Phone. The biggest difference is that the 'home screen' supports new smaller tiles. They look really cool and make better use of the larger displays. Still, it will be interesting to see what impact more tiles have on battery life.

      Nokia Lumia Windows Phone will ship with Nokia's Location Suite which includes augmented reality support from Nokia maps. Being in New York right now it can sometimes be disorienting when you come out of a subway station and have to get your baring. The guidance support along with augmented reality should make this a snap.



      I have to admit, I'm pretty excited about the new devices. Windows Phone desperately needed fancier hardware and these new Lumia's look fantastic.

      You can find more pictures of the 820 and 920 here and here.