• Just got Nokia Lumia 920! Seems Pentaband WCDMA as well as LTE!! See pics!

    HoFo user hkalltheway picked up a Nokia Lumia 920 on Rogers yesterday and noticed it has pentaband HSPA + quadband LTE. Other users are also reporting that the initial batch from Rogers is unlocked. That means you can use it Bell/TELUS/Rogers/Mobilicity/Wind.


    I just picked up the Lumia 920 a while ago...

    Here are some interesting pics from the box AND manual, indicating this should work on Wind if unlocked!
    It includes WCDMA 1700/2100

    (I have modified and removed IMEI number for security)




    This article was originally published in forum thread: Just got Nokia Lumia 920! Seems Pentaband WCDMA as well as LTE!! See pics! started by hkalltheway View original post
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    1. HC - NO "i"'s Avatar
      HC - NO "i" -
      hkalltheway,

      Greetings.

      Thank you for your sharing. While the box and manual should be accurate with the information, I would rather check with the FCC and Industry Canada filings to be absolutely sure. It is because there have been exception...

      http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...1#post14041551

      Anyway, both FCC and IC filings show the Nokia Lumia 920 (RM-820) is indeed supporting the UMTS Band IV (AWS) that used by WIND, Mobilicity and Videotron, as well as LTE Band 4 (AWS) that used by Rogers, Bell and TELUS.
    1. hkalltheway's Avatar
      hkalltheway -
      Hello,

      When I go to manual network selection, I see both "Wind" and "Mobilicity"

      That just about confirms it's capable of picking it.
    1. HC - NO "i"'s Avatar
      HC - NO "i" -
      hkalltheway,

      Scanning them, Seeing them, Picking them do not equal to "Registering" with them. The sure way, besides the emission designators certified by FCC and IC, is using the active WIND and Mobilicity SIM card to find out beyond any doubt.

      Anyway, it is great to know a handset that works on virtually all major Canadian carriers here at home as well as most others around the world! Plus, factory unlocked!! Thank you for your observations again!!!
    1. Maslov's Avatar
      Maslov -
      Ahh, the suspense is killing me! Can somone just stick a mobilicity/wind sim in there? Its frustrating how we have to do a physical test to find this information out. I cant wait to get this phone, but im not feeding the giants.
    1. WorldIRC's Avatar
      WorldIRC -
      Considering the box says WCDMA AWS I'm sure it'll work fine.
    1. Mr Mystery's Avatar
      Mr Mystery -
      Quote Originally Posted by WorldIRC View Post
      Considering the box says WCDMA AWS I'm sure it'll work fine.
      Didn't Nokia launch a device not to long ago with the same thing on the box but didn't actually have Pentaband? Until someone tests it I wouldn't trust a Nokia box.
    1. WorldIRC's Avatar
      WorldIRC -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mystery View Post
      Didn't Nokia launch a device not to long ago with the same thing on the box but didn't actually have Pentaband? Until someone tests it I wouldn't trust a Nokia box.
      That I didn't know...
    1. E2EK1EL's Avatar
      E2EK1EL -
      FYI: The unlocked Lumia 920 does not support T-Mobile’s 1700 AWS band







      We contacted Nokia on the matter and they confirmed it is in error, which they will be correcting soon. That’s of course a shame for those of you who were holding out hope, as the notion of buying an unlocked Lumia 920 to run on T-Mobile’s “4G” HSPA+ network is an enticing alternative to not having that phone offered on contract.

      But to be honest, it wouldn't make financial sense for Nokia to add the extra support for 1700 AWS as the cost to do so versus the amount of devices they would sell in the US would not justify the investment.

      For the record, here are the official, corrected bands for the Lumia 920. Thanks for all of those who pointed this out via your tips.


      US (AT&T) Lumia 920

      GSM/EGSM 850/900/1800/1900
      WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100
      LTE 1700/2100 (4), 700 (17)


      International, unlocked Lumia 920

      GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
      WCDMA: 2100, 1900, 850, 900
      LTE: 2100, 1800, 2600, 900, 800


      http://www.wpcentral.com/unlocked-lu...obile-1700-aws
    1. WorldIRC's Avatar
      WorldIRC -
      I also haven't seen a Pentaband + LTE chipset -- but maybe I'm wrong on that....
    1. Mr Mystery's Avatar
      Mr Mystery -
      There it is, so this is commonplace error on Nokia's part nowadays.

      Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using HowardForums
    1. Maslov's Avatar
      Maslov -
      Great now we have to wait 6 months for AWS version of a low-end lumia. And by then it will be be pretty old. Why can they make AWS 1700 version of the 820 but not the 920. I mean why does mobilicty/wind get the crappiest models much much later if they get them at all.
    1. WorldIRC's Avatar
      WorldIRC -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mystery View Post
      There it is, so this is commonplace error on Nokia's part nowadays.

      Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using HowardForums
      Their error was giving exclusivity on their handsets -- not a good way to re-enter the market.
    1. WorldIRC's Avatar
      WorldIRC -
      Quote Originally Posted by Maslov View Post
      Great now we have to wait 6 months for AWS version of a low-end lumia. And by then it will be be pretty old. Why can they make AWS 1700 version of the 820 but not the 920. I mean why does mobilicty/wind get the crappiest models much much later if they get them at all.
      Rogers has exclusivity on the 920 in Canada so it wouldn't really matter anyways...
    1. Mr Mystery's Avatar
      Mr Mystery -
      Quote Originally Posted by WorldIRC View Post
      Their error was giving exclusivity on their handsets -- not a good way to re-enter the market.
      Without question


      Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using HowardForums
    1. WorldIRC's Avatar
      WorldIRC -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mystery View Post
      Without question


      Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using HowardForums
      Ya notice HTC 8X will be on the Big-3 in Canada...and look at the spectacular reviews it is getting too!
    1. HC - NO "i"'s Avatar
      HC - NO "i" -
      Quote Originally Posted by E2EK1EL View Post
      FYI: The unlocked Lumia 920 does not support T-Mobile’s 1700 AWS band
      E2EK1EL,

      You are contradicting with the FCC and Industry Canada filings / emission designations...

      FCC:



      Industry Canada:



      *Please note: The entry with the emission designator, "4M19F9W", is the one dealing with a WCDMA operation in the UMTS Band IV (AWS).

      In summary, the fact is that Nokia LUMIA 920.3 (RM-820) is capable...

      GSM 850/900/1800/1900
      UMTS Band I (2100)/II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)/VIII (900)
      LTE Band 2 (1900)/4 (AWS)/5 (850)/17 (700, Lower B&C blocks)


      Meaning carriers like WIND, Mobilicity, Videotron and T-Mobile USA in the UMTS Band IV (AWS) will be supported as per FCC and IC certifications.
    1. Bcmrad's Avatar
      Bcmrad -
      Aside from the fact that the article he quoted is older and thus outdated by the later article that mobilesyrup posted a few weeks back analyzing the fcc report which indicated that we would indeed get the 1700 band on the 920
    1. HC - NO "i"'s Avatar
      HC - NO "i" -
      Bcmrad,

      Greetings.

      I have no problem to use my keyboard to quote older articles but the information have to be accurately verified with the relevant sources. Marketing, PR personnel of the manufacturers are sometimes not the best to address / confirm specifications as such, let alone the bloggers / media who are simply relaying the messages. Remember how HTC "customer support" inaccurately answered the questions regarding the WCDMA/UMTS operations in the AWS band with the NAM variant but in reality it does not? http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...3#post14791283

      There is nothing better to check with industrial test gears, analyzers, signal generators! Otherwise, learn to read test reports filed at FCC, certification listed at Industry Canada and trying out the device with active SIM cards from the targeted carriers in the real world.
    1. hkalltheway's Avatar
      hkalltheway -
      Mystery solved...i went to a wind store and it works! Will post a new thread with screenshots.
    1. HC - NO "i"'s Avatar
      HC - NO "i" -
      hkalltheway,

      Thank you for your efforts~