Bell Launches Subsidy Based Cancellation Fee

awesome news, its about time.

Nice to see that Bell isn't charging an extra BS cancellation fee on top of the remaining subsidy like Rogers and Telus.

Originally Posted by icemasta

Nice to see that Bell isn't charging an extra BS cancellation fee on top of the remaining subsidy like Rogers and Telus.

Correct, there is no additional administration fee.

So what happens to those on current system that want to upgrade early, will we see something like what Rogers did? And can we do a 3 year renewal and go ECF free like Rogers early adopters?

Originally Posted by Mr Mystery

So what happens to those on current system that want to upgrade early, will we see something like what Rogers did?

This was answered in my OP. Business as usual for those folks.

Originally Posted by WorldIRC

If a client does not receive a subsidy when activating, but still took a term, their cancellation fee is 10% of their monthly recurring charges, multiplied by the # of months remaining, to a maximum of $50.

isnt this kind of like a blend of rogers and telus? i think with rogers if you just cancel out of a plan it was $12.50. but this goes up to $50 which is like telus. or how did bell do this before?

Originally Posted by Dee-Dub

isnt this kind of like a blend of rogers and telus? i think with rogers if you just cancel out of a plan it was $12.50. but this goes up to $50 which is like telus. or how did bell do this before?

Before, if you took a term without hardware, you were liable for the ECF of $400 MAX.

Originally Posted by WorldIRC

Before, if you took a term without hardware, you were liable for the ECF of $400 MAX.

wow. so if i renewed into a 3 year term to get like their new plans with call display included, which saves me $8 a month or whatever. if i cancel early, id have to barf out $20 a month. so not fair, lol.

Originally Posted by icemasta

Nice to see that Bell isn't charging an extra BS cancellation fee on top of the remaining subsidy like Rogers and Telus.

True, though that is offset somewhat by the $50 cancelation fee for clients w/o a subsidized device. I think this is still a decent move on Bell's part; their network is beautiful, but they've been lagging a little behind in terms of recent consumer-friendly shifts in the industry. Throw in a new unlocking policy and Bell will be a very worthy choice for consumers like myself.

Originally Posted by DataDude

True, though that is offset somewhat by the $50 cancelation fee for clients w/o a subsidized device. I think this is still a decent move on Bell's part; their network is beautiful, but they've been lagging a little behind in terms of recent consumer-friendly shifts in the industry. Throw in a new unlocking policy and Bell will be a very worthy choice for consumers like myself.

TELUS charges $50 w/ or w/o device
Rogers charges $12.50 w/ or w/o device
Bell charges $50 w/o device ONLY.

Good to see Bell taking steps to modernize their terms. They also need to change Section 15. Also it is too bad the changes do not apply to existing customers. "Treating new friends better than old friends". When they tell me I'm bound by an old contract even though a new customer gets better terms I think: I want to go somewhere else and escape your clutches because I don't trust you to take care of me.

Originally Posted by priuspete

Good to see Bell taking steps to modernize their terms. They also need to change Section 15. Also it is too bad the changes do not apply to existing customers. "Treating new friends better than old friends". When they tell me I'm bound by an old contract even though a new customer gets better terms I think: I want to go somewhere else and escape your clutches because I don't trust you to take care of me.

To be fair, the cancellation fee is a pretty important part of the contract. I
They can't just go around changing the terms in it. What if it was a negative change?

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Originally Posted by WorldIRC

TELUS charges $50 w/ or w/o device
Rogers charges $12.50 w/ or w/o device
Bell charges $50 w/o device ONLY.

Yes Telus Charges $50 but They do not charge for an extra 30 Days. Also if you don't take a device from Telus you are never in a contract so no $50 fee and no 30 day notice if canceling and not to mention no activation or renewal fees at Telus. At one time Telus was the worse out of all the Provider with there policies and now they are on Top.

Rogers Charges extra 30 Days + 12.50 and you can not even provide a 30 day notice if porting

Bell doesn't charge anything extra but you still pay for the next 30 days in most cases so in reality it equals to the $50 that Telus Charges because most people plans are $50 +

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Good move this will make renewing with Bell easier to swallow for sure. I'll probably jump on the galaxy s4 shortly after release if the reviews are good.

Originally Posted by jattdesi

Yes Telus Charges $50 but They do not charge for an extra 30 Days. Also if you don't take a device from Telus you are never in a contract so no $50 fee and no 30 day notice if canceling and not to mention no activation or renewal fees at Telus. At one time Telus was the worse out of all the Provider with there policies and now they are on Top.

Rogers Charges extra 30 Days + 12.50 and you can not even provide a 30 day notice if porting

Bell doesn't charge anything extra but you still pay for the next 30 days in most cases so in reality it equals to the $50 that Telus Charges because most people plans are $50 +

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Bell offers 30 days notice for ports so you don't have to be out anything. You can give notice with Bell and then future date your port with new carrier so that everything lines up financially.

Telus has plans that require contract like the Sask $60 plan. Therefore the fee would apply if no hardware is taken. Bell never requires a contract on consumer plans (retention excluded). Telus does charge to the end of the billing cycle so as long as you coordinate they do have the upper hand there.

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Originally Posted by priuspete

Good to see Bell taking steps to modernize their terms. They also need to change Section 15. Also it is too bad the changes do not apply to existing customers. "Treating new friends better than old friends". When they tell me I'm bound by an old contract even though a new customer gets better terms I think: I want to go somewhere else and escape your clutches because I don't trust you to take care of me.

Bell can't just change contracts unilaterally. Positive or negative. All the other carriers went through the same thing with their customers. Eventually everyone will be on the new system. No on is being mistreated.

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LOL, all it took for Bell to finally do the right thing was the looming threat of the new CRTC code which would have inevitably forced them to do it anyway.

Bell has long been the least consumer friendly of the Big 3 policy-wise. Bell raises its prices and lowers its offerings lockstep with Rogers and TELUS, but this change, that greatly benefits customers, only came about just weeks/months before they were going to be forced into it anyway despite the fact that Rogers and TELUS had implemented it quite some time ago.

Originally Posted by Salinger

LOL, all it took for Bell to finally do the right thing was the looming threat of the new CRTC code which would have inevitably forced them to do it anyway.

Bell has long been the least consumer friendly of the Big 3 policy-wise. Bell raises its prices and lowers its offerings lockstep with Rogers and TELUS, but this change, that greatly benefits customers, only came about just weeks/months before they were going to be forced into it anyway despite the fact that Rogers and TELUS had implemented it quite some time ago.

I could care less why it happened, just glad it happened.

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Originally Posted by Salinger

LOL, all it took for Bell to finally do the right thing was the looming threat of the new CRTC code which would have inevitably forced them to do it anyway.

Bell has long been the least consumer friendly of the Big 3 policy-wise. Bell raises its prices and lowers its offerings lockstep with Rogers and TELUS, but this change, that greatly benefits customers, only came about just weeks/months before they were going to be forced into it anyway despite the fact that Rogers and TELUS had implemented it quite some time ago.

This was in discussions well before the CRTC process started. The Feb launch was also in discussion before.

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Originally Posted by Mr Mystery

I could care less why it happened, just glad it happened.

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Me as well, though I've left Bell and don't see me returning given how pathetic I found their customer "service".

That said, I was just making the point that it speaks volumes of them doing it now at this particular juncture in time given their main competitors, with whom they generally match all plans and features point for point almost within hours, made similar changes ages ago.