The Official AT&T RAZR2 V9 Thread.

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Originally Posted by dlwwfg

I have read most all the posts regarding what stays and what goes once you delete the J2me Registry file. I thought I've read that you lose CV, some button functions, etc.. If someone could list exactly what you lose if you delete this, I would appreciate it. I use Roadsync to retrieve my exchange email but have to hit OK 6 or 7 times....very annoying. Thx much.

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I already did this about 6 posts up...

http://www.howardforums.com/showpost...&postcount=317

Got my courage up and did my first SEEM edit to assign the right side external key to Obeymoto.

Works, fine, but I was certainly on pins and needles doing this w/out being able to make a backup first.

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Originally Posted by George Knighton

Got my courage up and did my first SEEM edit to assign the right side external key to Obeymoto.

Works, fine, but I was certainly on pins and needles doing this w/out being able to make a backup first.

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Congrats!

But what is "Obeymoto"?

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Originally Posted by Technique

I already did this about 6 posts up...

http://www.howardforums.com/showpost...&postcount=317

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Thanks Technique....I did see that but when I read posts 268-269 or so, it seemed that some buttons where effected and CV didn't work, as well as mobile email..I was just looking for an all encompassing list of what you lose and what you keep.

Thanks much.

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Originally Posted by Technique

Congrats!

But what is "Obeymoto"?

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Obeymoto is the speaker independent voice software; Motorola parlance for voice dial.

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Originally Posted by Technique

Congrats!

But what is "Obeymoto"?

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It's a little more than voice dial. These commands are available in the first menu depth:

Name Dial

Digit Dial

Camera

Voicemail

Redial

Received Calls

In the version that came on the USDM Krzr K1, you could also get signal strength, coverage information, and battery strength.

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Originally Posted by Baldilocks

Better phonebook? Hmm. The V8 has a much improved phonebook over the Synergy phones. The tabbed layout of the V8 phonebook makes it much easier to add/view details.

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I categorize all my contacts, for me to have to scroll down a long list or hit menu/view/choose categegory is an annoyance to me. On the V9 I simply hit the # or * button to quickly browse my categories. Much more convenient to me than having to use the filter option in the menu on the v8.

will there be a non att V9 for sale anytime in the future?

You mean unbranded or unlocked? You can buy one unlocked, but it'll still be ATT branded.

I guess you'd be able to use it on TMobile when they finally start rolling out their 3G systems. :)

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Originally Posted by George Knighton

You mean unbranded or unlocked? You can buy one unlocked, but it'll still be ATT branded.

I guess you'd be able to use it on TMobile when they finally start rolling out their 3G systems. :)

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nope
t-mobile will launch their 3g on the 1700mhz band. as opposed to the 850/1900mHz that ATT/Cingular uses for 3g. GSM will work fine but no 3g regardless

Thank you for the correction. I had no idea.

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Originally Posted by George Knighton

You mean unbranded or unlocked? You can buy one unlocked, but it'll still be ATT branded.

I guess you'd be able to use it on TMobile when they finally start rolling out their 3G systems. :)

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yeah thats what I meant. Will there be a unbranded version anytime soon?

Probably just as soon as somebody uncracks the security that seems to be attached to the code groups in the V9!

Here's a question for you V9 owners out there: when using the music player function/application, are you able to still hear the music of track that you are fast forwarding through or rewinding through? Also, are you able to see the rate at which you're fast forwarding or rewinding through a given track (does it tell you how far along into a track you are as you fast forward or rewind?)?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by C19.H28.O2

Here's a question for you V9 owners out there: when using the music player function/application, are you able to still hear the music of track that you are fast forwarding through or rewinding through? Also, are you able to see the rate at which you're fast forwarding or rewinding through a given track (does it tell you how far along into a track you are as you fast forward or rewind?)?

Thanks.

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No and No.

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Originally Posted by Technique

No and No.

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That's too bad. Do you think there are 3rd party applications available for download which play media better than the built-in Motorola media player?

I'm trying to tether my new RAZR v9 (AT&T) with my MacBook over bluetooth, and I'm getting some weird behavior -- I have a friend with a Samsung phone and high speed data works for her using a similar config, so I'm suspecting the phone.

Basically, everything seems to work fine using the Ross Barkman HSDPA scripts and the WAP.CINGULAR/WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM info on CID 1 or 2.

If I use the USB cable, everything works perfectly. I get really great data rates that indicate the high speed stuff is definitely working, and I can download files all day long.

However, if I use the Bluetooth link, things work okay for a while, but if I try to download a large chunk of data (like a single file as opposed to a web page w/ multiple small files), it hangs up unexpectedly, and I need to remove and reconfigure the entire serial link to get it working again. It almost seems like it's "flooding" the link, if that makese sense.

If I'm on an EDGE network, bluetooth works fine (I've stayed connected, data flowing, for like 8 hours straight on EDGE).

Any thoughts? Any resources I might use to find other people with similar configurations? I tried the search on here but didn't have much luck. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by mmccurdy

I'm trying to tether my new RAZR v9 (AT&T) with my MacBook over bluetooth, and I'm getting some weird behavior -- I have a friend with a Samsung phone and high speed data works for her using a similar config, so I'm suspecting the phone.

Basically, everything seems to work fine using the Ross Barkman HSDPA scripts and the WAP.CINGULAR/WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM info on CID 1 or 2.

If I use the USB cable, everything works perfectly. I get really great data rates that indicate the high speed stuff is definitely working, and I can download files all day long.

However, if I use the Bluetooth link, things work okay for a while, but if I try to download a large chunk of data (like a single file as opposed to a web page w/ multiple small files), it hangs up unexpectedly, and I need to remove and reconfigure the entire serial link to get it working again. It almost seems like it's "flooding" the link, if that makese sense.

If I'm on an EDGE network, bluetooth works fine (I've stayed connected, data flowing, for like 8 hours straight on EDGE).

Any thoughts? Any resources I might use to find other people with similar configurations? I tried the search on here but didn't have much luck. Thanks in advance.

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Does the V9 being a Bluetooth 2.0 device have anything to do with it ??

I found that tethering to my macbook pro via usb is better than tethering via bluetooth. The bluetooth connection will drop infrequently forcing me to use the usb cable. I too use the scripts from ross barkman's website. As for findinging a reason for why the bluetooth issue exists is anybody's guess.

Well, maybe it's not such a mistake. It's easier to tool up initially for one color. Early adopters will buy without that much regard for color. Then they bring out the other colors and everyone else who wants one buys... I'm just saying that they can bring it to market faster by starting with only one color. They might even sell two phones to the same person when they bring out another color that someone who already bought likes better than the original...

-nfsmith

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Originally Posted by Timortech

This is america and yes you can have your opinion, just I have counted 78 people on varied sites that didnt buy this phone because of the color. So how many thousands out there feel the same?. if you want to sell to the masses, youve got to appeal to the masses, at&t made a big mistake. Im sure they will milk every color in the book in time just like always. I will wait till then and so will many many others. if you like it, enjoy. From a bussiness standpoint I personally think they blew it.

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If you mean the version 4 beta, it's cool, but it has bugs. I used it for a while, but it's too problematic to use with secure websites so far. I mostly use the web browser for looking at my Schwab account. Opera Mini 4 beta is a real PITA for that, because it doesn't handle secure sites well yet. It kept forcing me to log in again and again after I had already logged in. I eventually deleted it, since it wasn't really ready for prime time. Opera Mini 3 works well in that situation, so I went back to it. When they get the secure web thing worked out on version 4, it will be much better than version 3.

-nfsmith

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Originally Posted by Baldilocks

You would have to experience it so see. Opera Mini Beta is the one you want.

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What speed do you get when you use the phone to connect directly (no tethering) to www.dslreports.com/mspeed

My connection is so fast that the 100K file isn't enough, and I have to go to the 1MB file... actually, for the first time, even that was too small, and I couldn't get a reading. Last time I tried it, the results were astounding... over a megabit per second. Presumably, tonight it's faster than that in LA, 'cause I can't even get it to run.

-nfsmith

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Originally Posted by DukeL

I noticed this too. I have a constant full 3G signal in my area. Whenever I use MPT to tether with my V9 it says UMTS connection 460 kbps. Is that right that it tethers at the same exact speed everytime, or is the reading just not accurate? I understand that's not very fast at all and it is very annoying trying to browse at that speed. I thought this puppy was supposed to be hsdpa? :befuddled



It is installed, it just has the java nag. I don't have a problem with yhe V9's multitasking capabilities. I was just answering a question for someone that was concerned about it.

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Very interesting. There are similar problems with the V3xx and Bluetooth.

My suspicion is that quite simply the fact that the data connection is MUCH faster than the rate Bluetooth can connect at is the source of the problem. Bluetooth is in the neighborhood of USB 1 speeds. 3G is much faster... The fact that you were able to go just fine with EDGE suggests that it's all about the fact that 3G overwhelms Bluetooth, but EDGE doesn't...

-nfsmith

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Originally Posted by mmccurdy

I'm trying to tether my new RAZR v9 (AT&T) with my MacBook over bluetooth, and I'm getting some weird behavior -- I have a friend with a Samsung phone and high speed data works for her using a similar config, so I'm suspecting the phone.

Basically, everything seems to work fine using the Ross Barkman HSDPA scripts and the WAP.CINGULAR/WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM info on CID 1 or 2.

If I use the USB cable, everything works perfectly. I get really great data rates that indicate the high speed stuff is definitely working, and I can download files all day long.

However, if I use the Bluetooth link, things work okay for a while, but if I try to download a large chunk of data (like a single file as opposed to a web page w/ multiple small files), it hangs up unexpectedly, and I need to remove and reconfigure the entire serial link to get it working again. It almost seems like it's "flooding" the link, if that makese sense.

If I'm on an EDGE network, bluetooth works fine (I've stayed connected, data flowing, for like 8 hours straight on EDGE).

Any thoughts? Any resources I might use to find other people with similar configurations? I tried the search on here but didn't have much luck. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by nfsmith

Well, maybe it's not such a mistake. It's easier to tool up initially for one color. Early adopters will buy without that much regard for color. Then they bring out the other colors and everyone else who wants one buys... I'm just saying that they can bring it to market faster by starting with only one color. They might even sell two phones to the same person when they bring out another color that someone who already bought likes better than the original...

-nfsmith

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I agree with your points 100%, even thought I absolutely find the maroon revolting.

It's a matter of personal opinion and I'm sure there are a lot of people that like the color, just as there are many that do not.

In my particular case I'm so eager to buy a RAZR2 that I'm going to purchase an unlocked V8 since I really like that color and I'm on AT&T which as we know only offers the maroon. The fact that the V8 is not 3G does not matter to me as I will only use it for email anyway and that works quite fast on EDGE. I know because my BlackBerrys are EDGE.

In addition from all the research I've done, they say the Linux based UI as used in the V8 is quite superior to the older UI in the V9 series. Then later on, if AT&T offers a better color or selection of colors on the V9 models I will try one of those.

For now I have the newest version (5 days old) of the V3xx Platinum/Chrome and it's a very nice phone with several undocumented rolling improvements over the gray V3xx I purchased when they were first released.

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Originally Posted by archer6

...from all the research I've done, they say the Linux based UI as used in the V8 is quite superior to the older UI in the V9 series.

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It looks like Motomagx with 3G is very far away, so I'm not sure how many Motorolas in the USDM are going to ever have it.

You might want to pick up a v9 and play with it.

The combination of much speedier menu systems, in combination with menus that would be familiar to anyone who has used Motos in the past, makes it an attractive package.

If you are into heavily modifying phones, there will be a learning curve. But if you are just using a phone, it will be a virtually seamless move from a V3, V3xx, or K1 to the V9.

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Originally Posted by nfsmith

Very interesting. There are similar problems with the V3xx and Bluetoothproblem.

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It's interesting to hear people talk about Bluetooth connectivity problems with the V9.

It's interesting because on another more specialised forum there are some people who complain about a Bluetooth issue with the Krzr K1 when connecting to devices used for voice communications.

The issue disappeared when they switched to the V9, so I wonder if their "fix" for voice communications introduced another Bluetooth issue that they felt most people would simply care less about.

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Originally Posted by George Knighton

It's interesting to hear people talk about Bluetooth connectivity problems with the V9.

It's interesting because on another more specialised forum there are some people who complain about a Bluetooth issue with the Krzr K1 when connecting to devices used for voice communications.

The issue disappeared when they switched to the V9, so I wonder if their "fix" for voice communications introduced another Bluetooth issue that they felt most people would simply care less about.

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Hi George,

What is the url of the site you mentioned.

cheers...

I am not sure Mr Chui would want me to advertise for it. :)

Just got mine after much deliberation over the color. Living with the phone for about 12 hours the color does not bother me. It does look better than in the pictures.

As far as the phone itself....WOW. The build is fantastic and this is such a step up from my old RAZR. Sound quality is great too. Really glad I stepped out with the early adopters.

Anyone know when ATT will support Mobile Backup on this phone?

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Originally Posted by George Knighton

It looks like Motomagx with 3G is very far away, so I'm not sure how many Motorolas in the USDM are going to ever have it.

You might want to pick up a v9 and play with it.

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Thanks a lot for your feedback. I'm probably overly concerned about the color and just need to accept it. I do like the fact that as you mentioned it's ready to go, right out of the box. I'm a tech guy with quite a bit of skill as I have a dual masters from MIT in Electrical Engineering & Computer Science, so the only point is I do enjoy development work and the V8 is enticing.

However that said, it's time that is the issue for me. Since I'm such a phone addict and love to play with different models, if I were to follow your suggestion and go straight to a V9 then I could enjoy it while continuing to aquire and experience other phones as well.

Finally as you suggested and I concur, I believe that Motomagx with 3G is quite a ways out there at this point.

Thanks again, George....... :)