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    Nevermind-

    I am getting 553/89k from speakeasys servers from seattle with Alltels new EDVO that is turned on, but not officially launched in Grand Rapids. I did have to power cycle the phone once because the connection crapped out. Not bad speeds at all. Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsilvertab
    ...I get the typical windows xp bubble that says I am connected at 220.0 k or something like that. If you setup a regular dialup connection though xp i can only set the highest speed to 115k. help!
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    I am getting 553/89k from speakeasys servers from seattle with Alltels new EDVO that is turned on
    Yeah, most people see that Pop-up from windows and assume that is their "actual connect speed" when its not..

    There are two parts.. Port speed (speed at which your PC is connected to your modem), and connection speed (speed at which your Modem is connected to the REMOTE modem)...

    When your "modem" makes a connection with another modem, a connect string (result code) is reported which contains that Connection Speed.

    In the DOS days, that exact connection message could/would be reported by the PC's software.

    In the "windows era", the modem drivers contain a list of "standard" connection strings... If that EXACT connection string is NOT included in the modem drivers, then the PORT SPEED is reported by windows upon connection.

    The USBMOT2000.INF (makes windows see your phone as Moto USB Modem), doesn't contain all that many strings (open it with Notepad and you'll see)... so... the PORT Speed is usually reported by the Windows' pop-up bubble which says you are connected.

    So, for anyone else trying this who says they are getting "low" speeds.. Please make sure to use the speed test web sites FIRST... something like -> http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
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    What is EVDO DUN? how is this different than just buying evdo/vcast from verizon? Can someone explain for a newbie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMRUD
    What is EVDO DUN? how is this different than just buying evdo/vcast from verizon? Can someone explain for a newbie?
    EVDO vs 1X see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/V710_EN.htm

    DUN = using your phone as a modem to connect up.

    Vcast = Verizon's multimedia service for video clips, etc.. and Vcast REQUIRES using the EVDO data network.. so there is no "EVDO VCast" vs "1x Vcast"

    See also -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/DUN.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_Venture
    Yeah, most people see that Pop-up from windows and assume that is their "actual connect speed" when its not..

    There are two parts.. Port speed (speed at which your PC is connected to your modem), and connection speed (speed at which your Modem is connected to the REMOTE modem)...

    When your "modem" makes a connection with another modem, a connect string (result code) is reported which contains that Connection Speed.

    In the DOS days, that exact connection message could/would be reported by the PC's software.

    In the "windows era", the modem drivers contain a list of "standard" connection strings... If that EXACT connection string is NOT included in the modem drivers, then the PORT SPEED is reported by windows upon connection.

    The USBMOT2000.INF (makes windows see your phone as Moto USB Modem), doesn't contain all that many strings (open it with Notepad and you'll see)... so... the PORT Speed is usually reported by the Windows' pop-up bubble which says you are connected.

    So, for anyone else trying this who says they are getting "low" speeds.. Please make sure to use the speed test web sites FIRST... something like -> http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
    Now I have a question since I am from the old school, so old that I tested the 9600bps modems in 1985/1986 before there was a standard. Telebit with the 18,000bps PEP (Packetized Ensemble Protocol), USRobotics with their 9600bps HST (High Speed Transmission), Hayes with their 9600bps v96 and Concord with the 9600bps v32 which became the official CCITT now ITU standard. In the past, the port speed was always faster than the actual connection speed since one would lock the port at 115200 providing you had a quality 16550 buffered UART. However, with regards to the Moto phones, if the port speed is 115.2kbps or even 230kbps, wouldn't this actually limit the speed of the data transmission between the computer and the phone since it will have the full speed from VZW to the phone but the port speed will be the bottleneck as the port speed is supposed to be the maximum data rate it will allow between the PC and the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty1
    Now I have a question since I am from the old school, so old that I tested the 9600bps modems in 1985/1986 before there was a standard. Telebit with the 18,000bps PEP (Packetized Ensemble Protocol), USRobotics with their 9600bps HST (High Speed Transmission), Hayes with their 9600bps v96 and Concord with the 9600bps v32 which became the official CCITT now ITU standard.
    Yep... I remember those days... I started with a Zoom 2400bps on my Kaypro II '83... April 1984. Then I had a USR that was 2400bps/9600 HST, then a Courier 16.8k HST/Dual Standard. and on, and on... Latest being a Courier Dual Standard, that got a daughter board upgrade to make it 33.6k, then firmware update to 56k and V.Everything
    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty1
    In the past, the port speed was always faster than the actual connection speed since one would lock the port at 115200 providing you had a quality 16550 buffered UART.
    and I remember popping out 16450 chips and replacing them with 16550's
    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty1
    ...However, with regards to the Moto phones, if the port speed is 115.2kbps or even 230kbps, wouldn't this actually limit the speed of the data transmission between the computer and the phone since it will have the full speed from VZW to the phone but the port speed will be the bottleneck as the port speed is supposed to be the maximum data rate it will allow between the PC and the phone.
    Yeah, we set port speed to above what our expected modem to modem speed would be to help through put... i.e. for a 2400bps connect, set port speed to 9600bps. If you set a port speed of 2400bps, but got a 9600bps connection, you'd hit a bottle neck.

    When I first saw the USBMOT2000.inf driver only allow a port speed of up to 115.2k, I scratched my head thinking.. wont that limit it??

    But I wonder if the fact that its a USB connection rather than traditional RS-232C serial, means that its not really that limited???

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    Heh. I went from a 300bps modem in 1985 to the 9600+bps in 1985. I still have my Telebit TrailBlazer 18kbps and the USR Courier HST/Dual Standard vSmall footprint that has the daughterboard and the v.Everything upgrade and it's still plugged into the computer just to send local faxes since it's free. For all other faxes, it goes to the Moto during the Unlimited hours.

    The 16550 buffered UART is interesting too since it started with the 16550A, then the 16550AN, all from National Semiconductors. Yeah, I was thinking it seems like the port rate will limit the transmission rate but you may be right, that the USB connection might not limit it in reality.

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    im having problems with step 4 after i hit read from phone the bar on the top moves a little bit over but then it says "The phone has stopped responding to memory read/write commands." I did every step above that to the tee so I have no idea what could possibly be going wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominocss
    im having problems with step 4 after i hit read from phone the bar on the top moves a little bit over but then it says "The phone has stopped responding to memory read/write commands." I did every step above that to the tee so I have no idea what could possibly be going wrong
    Hmm... Haven't run into that one... Does the QPST Configuration Tool still see/list your phone after that happens?

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    yea it can see the phone and everything - and i can acess the phone with any other program but it just has problems with that one thing

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    Just to be clear, we're talking about immediately AFTER the failure, right?

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    ok so it reads the phone and you can hit the get info from phone button. The blue progress bar along the top starts to move but it just stops and then that error message box pops up. I have no clue why its doing that. I tried 3 other comptuers on it to and all the same result.

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    That's perfectly clear... But what I'm asking is totally different: Right after it fails to read, does the phone still appear to be recognized and connected? Does the QPST configuration tool still see the phone?

    The reason I'm asking.... When it says the phone isn't responding, my gut feeling would be that the PC totally lost communications with the phone somehow.

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    Is this anything like I did with my Razr V3C. With that phone I had to flash to the alltel software and alot of things don't work the right way after I did that, but DUN did, and that is all I needed. I am thinking of upgrading to this phone and the DUN is important to me. I use my razr all the time and I am connected for most of the day. I don't want to have to flash my new phone if I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmonty
    Is this anything like I did with my Razr V3C. With that phone I had to flash to the alltel software and alot of things don't work the right way after I did that, but DUN did, and that is all I needed. I am thinking of upgrading to this phone and the DUN is important to me. I use my razr all the time and I am connected for most of the day. I don't want to have to flash my new phone if I don't.
    No one knows how an Alltel-flashed Verizon K1m will behave yet. But I believe some Alltel-K1m-on-Verizon guys in the other thread mentioned something about DUN.

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