There are some compromises to using the Smartphone OS as opposed to PocketPC, Microsoft has thought through it well, and implemented an operating system that is easily managable with just the numeric keypad, D-pad and two soft keys. This phone is not for you if you are going to be doing a lot of emailing, or taking a lot of notes, but for adding in addresses and send short emails, and sms this is a very good solution, if you want something more, you could get a blackjack or a Dash, or step up to a pocketpc with a full Keypad. It is the kind of device you need to try before you dismiss right away, and many people use these kinds of phones as gateways to the wonderful world of PocketPC phones. Give it a try you might like it.
I'm willing to try it. I'm just afraid it's sending me backward from the full Palm-OS PDA phones I have been accustomed to. With Graffiti, you don't need a keypad (I have tried and dislike alpha keypads as they hinder the function of the phone) to have all the functionality of one.
I guess I am wanting something very specific that nobody will make anymore. It's my shopping story... whatever I want is made from pure billet unobtainium.
Remember that most of the people that use this only need read-only info. For me, I could almost go for even a RAZR if Verizon didn't cripple it to death. I just need calendar and full contacts (addresses etc).
ZoomZoom,
The full form of PocketPC isn't going away so you can still get a phone that is has a touchscreen, like the Palm 700w and gives you a full QWERTY keyboard.
With the release of devices like the Q, Blackjack or Dash you can have a smartphone (read, no touchscreen) but still have a really capable email device. If you want to step up to a PocketPC device, then you have devices like the 8525 (aka Hermes - full touchscreen w/ slideout keyboard), 6700, and host of others.
The devices it sounds like you want are still out there being made but devices like this Pantech are being released as well to cover others' needs as well.
Unfortunately, the Pocket PC devices don't satisfy my desire for a unit which primarily operates as a phone, preferably with a flip body style. I have tried all the Pocket PC devices Verizon offers, and they don't function well enough as a phone to be my only phone (my cell phone is my only phone). They feel like PDA's with a phone tacked on as an afterthought (and this Pantech sounds like a phone with a PDA tacked on as an afterthought) rather than a true combination of the two functions.
You could say if the Smartphone OS is halfway between regular phones and PocketPC, I'm looking for something halfway between the Smartphone OS phones and the Pocket PC phones (like the experience my Kyocera 7135 delivers).
They had a demo one at my Verizon store too, and if it wasn't operational as a phone, I could play with the basic operating system. I didn't find it really offered much more usable functionality than a regular phone. The upcoming Samsung phone will be interesting for full PDA seekers, but not phone enough for me. I ended up finding some phones allow 50 characters for an e-mail free form, so I can turn that into a street address. I left the store with an LG VX8600.
A few quick notes on the pn-820 this phone is not manufactured by pantech it is a rebranded HTC star trek so I think it should be a rely good phone sounds like it will be in stores soon I was in one of the Verizon stores and they gave me a brochure on the phone my contract is up on the vx6700 might need to try one of these I read on phonescoop that samsung has a i760 coming this year also its blackjack size so a little smaller than the Q with slide out keyboard like the vx6700 and a regular dial pad and pocket pc 6.0 but I bet that one wont be out tel late 2007
Unless things have changed, the PN-820 is not a rebadged HTC StrTrk. First the HTC is a GSM phone so it cant work on Verizon, Second all the pictures found on the net show a phone that looks nothing like the HTC. I don't know where you got your information, but if you are right about it, I am very surprised.
No, the 820 is NOT a rebranded StarTrk, nor is it made by HTC. And thank g-d for that -- HTC has good external build quality, but I have found HTC smartphones to be much more unstable than other brands. . . . and I find their phones butt-ugly! Not that the 820 is a thing of beauty, either.
As an employee of Telus Mobility I had a chance to play around with the phone when it first came in. Personally I do like the Mobile Windows interface which is similar to the Moto Q. Very simple to operate and navigate through. Comes with a lot of key features which I beleive were already discussed in the thread so I think there is no need to go over them. The phone is a tad bigger than some people may like but wasn't a problem IMO. At Telus this is our second Pantech product and we have had nothing but positive experiences with the product which I'm sure this device will follow suit.
Personally I think this handset will do quite well in the Telus lineup!
For our U.S. Neighbours I do say take a look at the phone and well lets hear some user reviews!
I am stuck between buying the Pantech 8200 and the Moto Q. I know the Moto Q has been around longer but the Pantech is more protected as a flip. The problem is it is so new and I do not know anyone who uses it. I have a couple of friends who operate the Q and the complaints seem to be battery life and screens freeze. Help!!!! What do I buy?
I am stuck between buying the Pantech 8200 and the Moto Q. I know the Moto Q has been around longer but the Pantech is more protected as a flip. The problem is it is so new and I do not know anyone who uses it. I have a couple of friends who operate the Q and the complaints seem to be battery life and screens freeze. Help!!!! What do I buy?
To be honest with you the pantech is different than the Q!Just mainly in the sense that they are different forms of PDA's! Are you going on contract? You know that at Telus you have 30 days to exchange the phone for something else if you are on contract providing it isn't damaged in anyway! If you purchase the phone under no contract agreement you can exchange or get a refund provided its not damaged in anyway! Try out the pantech!
I think it's a solid phone for those who want all the convenience of a PDA but don't want to have to carry around a bulkier device.
If you have questions just pm me
Palm 6035, 7135, 600, 650, 700w and 700p
Samsung i600, i700, and i730,
Audiovox / HTC Thera, XV6600, XV6700
Motorola Q
RIM 6750, 7750, 7250, 7130e, and 8703e
The PN-820 is the first real flip phone/smartphone, since the i600.
This one weighs just under 4 oz. Has the approx. size and weight of the e815.
Has Bluetooth handsfree
128 MB native memory (Q has 64)
Mini SD slot
Broadband Access Connect capability
1.3 MP camera with flash
Microsoft ActiveSync
WM5 Smartphone OS (view-only MS Office attachments)
VZ Wireless Sync Capable
Soon to be officially certified for support by Goodlink
Speakerphone
Advanced Voice-Activated dialing
Windows Media Player
Pocket Internet Explorer
Packaged with wired stereo headset (Bluetooth Stereo capable)
Retractable Antenna design
Dual full color displays
It's a "phone-first" form factor for folks who need to view e-mail and attachments and reply occasionally or briefly. It's for people who want to take and send photos and video clips. It's for people who want to have one device for phone and wireless laptop modem. With EVDO Broadband, this allows for avg. downlink speeds between 400-700 kbps, bursting up to 2 Mbps depending on network traffic. This phone is for people who want to manage their contacts and calendar via Outlook not a third party solution.
If Pantech was able to execute on this design and it's a solid RF performer, this is a winning product and a viable competitor to the Q. If data is your main thing, you need a QWERTY keyboard. So get the Q. If you need to edit attachments, you need the full WM5 Pocket PC OS. So get an XV-6700, i730 or a Treo 700. But if voice is your main thing, you don't want to hold a phone the size of a piece of Pepperidge Farms toast up to your ear. So get the PN-820. With a 5-way nav control, soft keys, home key, and predictive text, you can manage well enough on the alpha-numeric keypad to shoot back short quick replies on e-mail. This is a tool for the mobile executive that wants to travel light and carry one device. And the price is unbelievable, provided you take the 2 year option and select a voice and data bundle plan starting with the Core Choice $79.99/450 minute plan with unlimited Broadband Data. Tether the device to your laptop for just $15 more per month.
As they say in the Honda commercial, "Simplify."
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