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    Quote Originally Posted by DRC72
    All the major carriers do including Tmobile.
    I may be wrong but didn't TMO used to get free incoming? If so I wonder if they grandfathered it!
    Recently I bought a Samsung printer that had a Samsung retail price on $214.00, but I got it at Staples for 100 bucks. So I investigated some more and found out that the only devices that are sold at retail (inflated x2) were wireless devices. So you have the horse behind the cart.
    Oh dear, OpenSignalMaps says Lte 3% of the time! And ATT map say Good to go Lte! If interested you can get OpenSignalMaps from Anroid play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier007
    Wirelessly posted (Xavier's V400: SonyEricssonW810i/R4EA Browser/NetFront/3.3 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

    I'm tired off people asking for free incoming text. This was a at&t wireless thing and that's why they don't exist. Cuz of att wireless we hav all this spoiled people wanting Cingular to be like them.
    I do miss the old AT&T Wireless. The first carrier with UMTS or any other kind of 3G here in Seattle. I was a customer for a long time, from 1996 until the service deteriorated to almost unusable after the merger. Free incoming SMS was certainly a nice feature. AT&T Wireless also had digital service (TDMA) available here long before Airtouch (which got absorbed into VZW). ATTWS was certainly on the leading edge of technology in a lot of ways for North America and they did a very good job providing some leading edge features for corporate customers.

    Since then though, T-mobile has improved a lot here in the Seattle area, and I have unlimited SMS for $10/month. Actually, almost everything I have now with T-mobile is cheaper than anything that AT&T Wireless ever offered. No UMTS on T-mobile, but Sprint EV-DO is great for data. That works for me.

    My wife still has her old Charter plan and ATTWS SIM with 1000 mins for $40/month and the roaming rate in Canada of $0.25/minute. It's a good deal, although she suffered through all of the integration woes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blume2886
    they should just make free m2m text. or even charge like $5 for it. that would b good

    If they did something like Verizon does, which is basically the same thing as you have here. Have a plan with unlimited SMS to other Cingular customers, and a bucket for out of network SMS, then it wouldn't be 1/2 bad.

    Unfortunatly they don't appear to want to go this way as well as having a shared SMS plan, and since Verizon just reported their best & the industries largest profit for the last Quater Cingular appears to want to beat them at this as well.

    The bad thing about it is they are starting to tick a lot of customers off & may increase churn, trying to make more money off everyone.

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    Cingular has been trumpeting for the last 2 years that they want to be #1 in ALL aspects (financially, industrially, economically, and statistically) by the end of 2007, and they are facing a problem: Time is running out! so they are scared they may not make it so they are pushing their luck really hard. Verizon is getting closer and closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonix
    I may be wrong but didn't TMO used to get free incoming? If so I wonder if they grandfathered it!
    I think that was just on prepaid, which ended in August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macizcool
    I think that was just on prepaid, which ended in August.
    Yes, just prepaid.

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    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU

    So many posters here look at their 'Cingular Brainwashing Information' and assert that "you can't get out of the ETF, Cingualr says no".. well, duh! Of course they will!

    I'm almost ready to sign up for a few free phones with new service and cancel when they change the terms (not worth the hassle)

    The cingluar system is designed to discourage those that are not persistent.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora
    Please don't spread misinformation. The price of the early evenings and weekends went up by $2 recently and I got out of a contract; cellular service contracts are relatively "one-way," but when price increases are involved, generally the carriers agree to let you out if they increase prices.

    When the price of the early evenings and weekends went up, I had to escalate my request to get out of a contract through four levels in the customer service hierarchy, but eventually reached someone who knew how to read and was logically able to conclude that the black and white words that both Cingular and I agreed when I signed up for service stated that, while Cingular does reserve the rights to raise prices, customers can be let out of their contract if they chose to upon Cingular making those changes.

    Now, the specific wording is very important. The current contract states:



    I'm not a lawyer, nor do I have to be to see that if you're SUBSCRIBED to any SERVICES and the price of those services increases, then you can get out of a contract.

    However, since the price of incoming SMSs is increasing and that is not a service that you subscribe to, I would argue (and I bet Cingular would, too) that you can't get out of your contract. In fact, the reason you're paying for an incoming or outgoing SMS @ $.15/message is because of a LACK of a service subscription.

    Just my $.02 worth.

    The terms of service (i.e., the contract you signed with Cingular when you signed up), btw, can be found here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire14
    If they did something like Verizon does, which is basically the same thing as you have here. Have a plan with unlimited SMS to other Cingular customers, and a bucket for out of network SMS, then it wouldn't be 1/2 bad.
    I'm surprized Cingular never followed Verizon's lead on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRC72
    I'm surprized Cingular never followed Verizon's lead on this.
    Just as I thought Cingular was going to decrease the price of something.. It seems like they haven't followed anyones lead for a while, except Sprint's - raising the price of a text message. I really hope they get the point soon.
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    i am cancelling my ppu sms. been getting a lot of bs sms and i am sick of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRC72
    I'm surprized Cingular never followed Verizon's lead on this.
    I guess they only follow someone when they raise prices on something. Bleh.

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    I don't care if it's $1/text. Most of us are on MediaMax or text plans, no? Plus, I'm mad that I STILL don't have a Treo 750.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playstation3
    I don't care if it's $1/text. Most of us are on MediaMax or text plans, no? Plus, I'm mad that I STILL don't have a Treo 750.
    Um...I think the replies on this thread would indicate otherwise.

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    Sorry, I was ranting lol...Nobody answered my question as to whether or not INCOMING texts will be charged at 15c a pop as well???

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    Yes, this is for both incoming and outgoing, but ONLY if you do not have a messaging package.

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