Treo 750, IE has cingular proxy hard coded

[RF9]

For those of you who have the Cingular Treo 750, you'll notice it browses to the Media Net site ( http://device.home// )
As you may know, it's impossible to get there with that URL unless the proxy server setting is enabled to wireless.cingular.com
But in my connection preferences, it is NOT set on the "Media Net" connection and the proxy setting is not set.
Furthermore when I put the SPectec Wifi card in, I can get on the Internet with all apps except for IE, because the proxy is set which is only accessible via Cingular wireless.

Cingular, in thier infinite wisdom, hard-coded wireless.cingular.com proxy setting in to IE, and you can't disable it except to edit the registry! Just so we can access the media net site (http://device.home/) to buy thier ****.

So I used Resco Registry editor and started deleting all kinds of IE settings that looked related to this proxy setting, and eventually got it. It's not obvious which setting it is.

I for one am kind of pissed that this is hard coded in the registry and I have so far found NO way to disable this via menu options or the like.

I'm working on figuring out exactly which registry setting it is. But this is BS.

If this is being discussed somewhere else already, then please just let me know where. I'm heading over to XDA-developers right now to take a look.

[cjmedina]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320) UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

that would explain why the images look real fuzzy. like there being over compressed. did you notice the images looking more crisp

[stanswx]

I tried browsing the same site with IE and then Opera Mobile. IE definitely compresses the images or something, but Opera Mobile displayed them like they should be. I may have to buy Opera, it's pretty snazzy. (looks better than IE too!)

[ROLLTIDE]

I noticed the same thing when I was looking and weather related items like radar .

Why in the wide world of sports would cingular do this ?

[vgill]

I tried browsing the same site with IE and then Opera Mobile. IE definitely compresses the images or something, but Opera Mobile displayed them like they should be. I may have to buy Opera, it's pretty snazzy. (looks better than IE too!)

Doe the 750 come with java? I went to operamini and it said it didn't know what my phone was.

/v

[stanswx]

Doe the 750 come with java? I went to operamini and it said it didn't know what my phone was.

I don't think it has java built in like non pocket pc phones. You want to download the Opera Mobile program for Pocket PC/Windows Mobile 5.

[importluva]

Thanks rf9, let us know what you find out.

This makes me wonder if I will be able to use isp.cingular since I sont think it accesses the proxy...

[Goldenmonkey1]

so, what does this mean for the end user...? i'm just trying to figure out what effect it has on me. i've been using opera actually, but would it be a good idea to delete it from the registry as well?

[wallyn]

I don't think isp.cingular uses the proxy. Maybe thats Cingulars way to force us to use pds connect which I believe uses isp.cingular

[cjmedina]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320) UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

I agree images look very crisp and vivd compared to pie. does anyone have isp as there ap?, do your images look fuzzy

[Phone Diva]

Thanks for this post. One reason why I'm waiting to see if Palm is releasing a generic ROM. Anyone know if the Vodafone ROM is similar to the Cingular one, in terms of what it disables?

[RF9]

I think some of you are getting confused.
The proxy setting is NOT set under your settings>connections>Connections>Manage Existing Connections
If it were, all internet traffic would use the proxy setting with wap.cingular.

As it is, the defualt setting is normal for your internet setting:
Wap.cingular access point. No proxy setting is set.
This is in the form of "My ISP" as the connection profile and under that is a "wap.cingular" connection.
If you changed the connection "Media Net" (under manage networks), it uses one called "Media Net" which is wap.cingular with the proxy enabled.

So the default is wap.cingular, with NO proxy setting.

Now IE has a registry setting that you can't access (without a registry editor) that somehow tells IE and only IE to use wireless.cingular as a proxy server so that it can access http://device.home/ (Media Net site.)

If you installed Opera Mobile or any other program, it would not have this proxy setting set.

Also, if you changed your network profile to use isp.cingular, IE would NOT able to access the interne because the wireless.cingular proxy is NOT available on isp.cingular.

So Cingular has, in effect, forced the Treo 750 to use the wap.cingular (Media Net) connection for web browsing. It's an ironic twist because they want you to buy the PDA data plat, but you can't use the data connect (isp.cingular) access point.

Therefore you're being forced (probabaly wasn't intentional) to not use isp.cingular. At least for IE.
The same goes for my WiFi card which is why I discovered it.

This shouldn't affect ANY OTHER programs at all, including opera mobile or any other browser or whatever you install.
Also, I'm not sure this proxy actually compresse images or not. As far as I know it just puts you through the wap gateway to get to media net, but I'm not sure. It could be compressing images. I know when i ran a speed test it was comgin up as like 300kbps on only an EDGE connection which is way too fast to be possible. So it could be.

I have a home game (SJ Sharks season ticket holder) to go to tonight. So I won't get a chance to isolate the registry setting. I have to hard-reset and go thorugh it carefully. Hopefully by the end of Thursday I'll be able to post exactly what to do to make the registry change.

I just don't undersand this. I could understand setting this by default if you could chnage it, but why on earth would they make it a registry setting that the normal user wouldn't be able to get to?

As far as Java goes. I too like to use Opera Mini because of the way it compresses pages and makes them load quickly. I was a bit miffed when I learned there was no Java (no Midlet Manager.)
Solution:
Someone has posted a Java Midlet Manager at XDA-Developers.com:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286857
Go to that link and you can download the ZIP file. Instlal the cab inside and you now have Java.
Then go to http://mini.opera.com/ with IE and download Opera Mini.

There is some kind of bug that when I'm on this forum, I can not edit the text field to reply to posts. I didn't have this problem on the 8525, so I blame this version of Java. Hopefully we can find a better version eventually or a newer version of the same. But for now it works pretty well.

[cjmedina]

i totally get what your saying, but im having a hard time finding the right key

[bshaf]

It sounds like im having a similar problem. If i go into my connection settings and select Media Net as the network, then go to EI and try and navagate to any site i get an error that says "The page you are looking for cannot be found due to unknown error 0x80088000" But if i use Opera it works just fine. I have to use My ISP in order to surf with EI. Which really doesn't make sense because i have a Media Max data plan. Any Ideas??

[cjmedina]

i get the same essage when i set it to " media net" no pages come up. but when i go back to "isp" works fine