Treo 750, IE has cingular proxy hard coded

[Cae]

I got all excited and then I realized what happened and was very disappointed lol...

[txschafers]

I think some of you are getting confused.
The proxy setting is NOT set under your settings>connections>Connections>Manage Existing Connections
If it were, all internet traffic would use the proxy setting with wap.cingular.

As it is, the defualt setting is normal for your internet setting:
Wap.cingular access point. No proxy setting is set.
This is in the form of "My ISP" as the connection profile and under that is a "wap.cingular" connection.
If you changed the connection "Media Net" (under manage networks), it uses one called "Media Net" which is wap.cingular with the proxy enabled.

So the default is wap.cingular, with NO proxy setting.

Now IE has a registry setting that you can't access (without a registry editor) that somehow tells IE and only IE to use wireless.cingular as a proxy server so that it can access http://device.home/ (Media Net site.)

If you installed Opera Mobile or any other program, it would not have this proxy setting set.

Also, if you changed your network profile to use isp.cingular, IE would NOT able to access the interne because the wireless.cingular proxy is NOT available on isp.cingular.

So Cingular has, in effect, forced the Treo 750 to use the wap.cingular (Media Net) connection for web browsing. It's an ironic twist because they want you to buy the PDA data plat, but you can't use the data connect (isp.cingular) access point.

Therefore you're being forced (probabaly wasn't intentional) to not use isp.cingular. At least for IE.
The same goes for my WiFi card which is why I discovered it.

This shouldn't affect ANY OTHER programs at all, including opera mobile or any other browser or whatever you install.
Also, I'm not sure this proxy actually compresse images or not. As far as I know it just puts you through the wap gateway to get to media net, but I'm not sure. It could be compressing images. I know when i ran a speed test it was comgin up as like 300kbps on only an EDGE connection which is way too fast to be possible. So it could be.

I have a home game (SJ Sharks season ticket holder) to go to tonight. So I won't get a chance to isolate the registry setting. I have to hard-reset and go thorugh it carefully. Hopefully by the end of Thursday I'll be able to post exactly what to do to make the registry change.

I just don't undersand this. I could understand setting this by default if you could chnage it, but why on earth would they make it a registry setting that the normal user wouldn't be able to get to?

As far as Java goes. I too like to use Opera Mini because of the way it compresses pages and makes them load quickly. I was a bit miffed when I learned there was no Java (no Midlet Manager.)
Solution:
Someone has posted a Java Midlet Manager at XDA-Developers.com:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286857
Go to that link and you can download the ZIP file. Instlal the cab inside and you now have Java.
Then go to http://mini.opera.com/ with IE and download Opera Mini.

There is some kind of bug that when I'm on this forum, I can not edit the text field to reply to posts. I didn't have this problem on the 8525, so I blame this version of Java. Hopefully we can find a better version eventually or a newer version of the same. But for now it works pretty well.

Are you having any issues running the Java Midlet on your Treo 750? Since your post has an updated version been released?

[TX_MDA]

I just got an unlocked 750 to use with T-Mobile. I have set up my connections for their network - including the registry change described in this thread. I can access the Internet in Opera and can send/receive text messages, however, I cannot get PIE to work at all. Does anyone have any ideas why it still won't work?

[Nanseg]

FYI - Cingular is not the only provider to lock the Treo in this way. Telstra, in Australia, appears to have done the same thing. The issue is that wireless broadband in Australia is really expensive and has not had a high takeup, so a lock on IE that forces Australian Treo owners to use telstra.wap is going to increase take up & push up Telstra's profits!!
My experience is that some apps such as RSS readers use IE as their user agent to download their content. I use Egress which does this, although it also gives the option to use Minimo instead of pIE. On my WM2003 device I use a USB connection and ActiveSync to get onto the net and then sync my RSS content for offline viewing.
I became quite frustrated using my new Treo 750 because the default setting on the auto proxy stopped me from connecting to the internet via USB. But now, thanks to RF9's hack I have fixed that!! RF9, you are a treasure.

[maevro]

I am very disappointed. I did the hack and my phone started freezing often, I lost my volume controls & my voicemail notification will not go away. these are things that never happened before this proxy hack. I downloaded the undue hack and all of these things are still happening. please help.

[RF9]

Maevro. There's no possible way these things are related to the hack.
The "Hack" is a 1 bit registry change that tells IE to use the normal configured network profile instead of using a special network profile with the proxy configured. It literally doesn't install anything, it just undoes a configuration override.
The default way as it's shipped from Cingular is that it uses an alternate network profile for IE browsing instead of the one you selected. That's it.

And running the reverse 'hack' puts that registry bit back the way it was.

Your problems are coincidental to using the hack. It may be hard to believe but I stand by that.

Phone freezing, I don't know what that is.
Volume contols... are you seeing battery status when you press the volume buttons? This is a know bug and there's a fix for that I can point you to.
Voice mail notification won't go away... here's the fix:

1) Call your number and leave a new voice mail.
2) Wait for your phone to get the notification.
3) Call in to voice mail, listen to the new message and delete it.
4) Do NOT hang up. Press "Star" twice (**) to log out out of voice mail and hear the recording say "Goodbye". Let voice mail disconnect the call from it's end (instead of you hanging up with the hang up button.)

As a tip, always log out of voice mail with ** to disconnect your voicemail session before hanging up and you should avoid the VM icon getting stuck in the future. Sometimes when you hang up in the middle of a voice mail session it doesn't send out the 'cancel' notification to the phone for the voice mail indicator.

[maevro]

Maevro. There's no possible way these things are related to the hack.
The "Hack" is a 1 bit registry change that tells IE to use the normal configured network profile instead of using a special network profile with the proxy configured. It literally doesn't install anything, it just undoes a configuration override.
The default way as it's shipped from Cingular is that it uses an alternate network profile for IE browsing instead of the one you selected. That's it.

And running the reverse 'hack' puts that registry bit back the way it was.

Your problems are coincidental to using the hack. It may be hard to believe but I stand by that.

Phone freezing, I don't know what that is.
Volume contols... are you seeing battery status when you press the volume buttons? This is a know bug and there's a fix for that I can point you to.
Voice mail notification won't go away... here's the fix:

1) Call your number and leave a new voice mail.
2) Wait for your phone to get the notification.
3) Call in to voice mail, listen to the new message and delete it.
4) Do NOT hang up. Press "Star" twice (**) to log out out of voice mail and hear the recording say "Goodbye". Let voice mail disconnect the call from it's end (instead of you hanging up with the hang up button.)

As a tip, always log out of voice mail with ** to disconnect your voicemail session before hanging up and you should avoid the VM icon getting stuck in the future. Sometimes when you hang up in the middle of a voice mail session it doesn't send out the 'cancel' notification to the phone for the voice mail indicator.

Yes, I am seeing the battery status, can you please help me out?

I tried the voicemail trick too, thanks! It worked, sweet.

Strange that it never froze or anything else before I installed the cab, I see it is a coincidence but it was odd.

[RF9]

As I mentioned in my PM to you. I'll post to this thread for others to see:

To fix the volume see here:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtop...ixvolume#17139
Download the .rar file in post #2

Or download the file from the zip attachment here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=128184
See Post #11

If you use any software from SPB software house, then download the latest version which should contain the fix built in.

I also have an idea on the freezing.
Are you configured to get mail from a POP mail server?
I've noticed that when the Treo goes to check mail from a POP mail box that it sometimes causes the Treo to come to a halt getting stuck on checking email. This only happens when there's a lot of old mail in the mailbox (like 500-1000 messages.)
Try cleaning out your inbox and/or moving most of the old mail to a different folder (if pulling from YahooPlus for example)

Also set your POP mail to keep at least 2 days of email. Mine doesn't like it when I set it to 1 day.

For more info on Treo 750 bugs...

Check out this forum:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86
Check out the "Treo 750 bugs" thread

Also (if you can stand it) read through the Treo 750 thread here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1025842

[maevro]

As I mentioned in my PM to you. I'll post to this thread for others to see:

To fix the volume see here:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtop...ixvolume#17139
Download the .rar file in post #2

Or download the file from the zip attachment here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=128184
See Post #11

If you use any software from SPB software house, then download the latest version which should contain the fix built in.

I also have an idea on the freezing.
Are you configured to get mail from a POP mail server?
I've noticed that when the Treo goes to check mail from a POP mail box that it sometimes causes the Treo to come to a halt getting stuck on checking email. This only happens when there's a lot of old mail in the mailbox (like 500-1000 messages.)
Try cleaning out your inbox and/or moving most of the old mail to a different folder (if pulling from YahooPlus for example)

Also set your POP mail to keep at least 2 days of email. Mine doesn't like it when I set it to 1 day.

For more info on Treo 750 bugs...

Check out this forum:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86
Check out the "Treo 750 bugs" thread

Also (if you can stand it) read through the Treo 750 thread here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1025842

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[Merlyn_3D]

Well....I have the HSDPA hack, and when I disable the proxy I get consistently lower speed test reults (~250kbps) versus with the proxy (~800kbps). Is this right?

[namjasohn]

hey everyone. i just bought a treo 750 unlocked cingular phone. i'm currently on tmobile service and i was wondering if anyone knew had the internet settings for tmobile service.

[RF9]

You might want to ask the T-Mobile forum.
But this should do it:
http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase...ic/tm22300.htm

[namjasohn]

thanks RF9. the settings worked perfectly. do you by any chance know how i can get the mms settings for tmobile?

[babyfat34]

Maevro. There's no possible way these things are related to the hack.
The "Hack" is a 1 bit registry change that tells IE to use the normal configured network profile instead of using a special network profile with the proxy configured. It literally doesn't install anything, it just undoes a configuration override.
The default way as it's shipped from Cingular is that it uses an alternate network profile for IE browsing instead of the one you selected. That's it.

And running the reverse 'hack' puts that registry bit back the way it was.

Your problems are coincidental to using the hack. It may be hard to believe but I stand by that.

Phone freezing, I don't know what that is.
Volume contols... are you seeing battery status when you press the volume buttons? This is a know bug and there's a fix for that I can point you to.
Voice mail notification won't go away... here's the fix:

1) Call your number and leave a new voice mail.
2) Wait for your phone to get the notification.
3) Call in to voice mail, listen to the new message and delete it.
4) Do NOT hang up. Press "Star" twice (**) to log out out of voice mail and hear the recording say "Goodbye". Let voice mail disconnect the call from it's end (instead of you hanging up with the hang up button.)

As a tip, always log out of voice mail with ** to disconnect your voicemail session before hanging up and you should avoid the VM icon getting stuck in the future. Sometimes when you hang up in the middle of a voice mail session it doesn't send out the 'cancel' notification to the phone for the voice mail indicator.

RF9 and others,

I have read most of these post and I done everything, but I can't browse still. What I notice in all these post you guys are trying to connect to Cingular network to browse faster etc, but my problem is different.

I have a Cingular Treo 750, I had it unlocked so I can use it on our local cell phone provider here in the Virgin Islands. I inserted the sim forthe local provider after unlocking and it worked fine, when I put in the Cingular sim it worked fine too including browsing the internet.

I now want to browse the internet on my local provider network, I entered the local cell phone provider network settings into the phone, it connected fine. I then went to browse at www.yahoo.com and it told me page cannot be found.

Before I did all that I downloaded the disable .cab file to a folder on my desktop then sync that file to the Treo 750 in the MY DEVICE section of the phone, when I went in that section I saw the file. I click on it and it open up the browser page and I saw alot of writing but what stick out the most was -

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\WIndows\CurrentVersion\Int ernet Settings"><parm name="EnableAutoDetect"value="1" appear on the screen.

I type in www.yahoo.com and still couldn't browse. I hold down the OK key and end the browser then try to browse again and still nothing.

Two questions:

1. Is this hack only for Cingular customer to access wap and isp.cingular??

2. As you can see, I am trying to enter totally different settings to browser on another network, is this possible??

The settings for our network is simple, see them below.

Name: CCT
APN: cctglobilenet.com or cctmms.com

There is no username, passwords or proxy settings. The IP section is set to ATUTOMATIC DETECT.

PLEASE help!

Wayne

[stoobie-doo]

Could this hard coding be the reason why I can not access the internet on my unlocked AT&T 750 (yes, new branding) with a blue SIM? I am trying to connect via the old mmode access point, and have not found the magic formula yet.