as far as I know, the only difference is looks... I could be wrong though
What do you mean "does this one give you network select"?
There are instructions on the SIM known as CSP (Custom SIM Profile) that can tell a CSP-compliant phone to do things such as disable the manual network select menu. The Cingular SIMs, since the 32k ones, had CSP instructions set to disable this menu. They also told the phone to hide true alpha tags and always display "Cingular" using something called EONS (enhanced operator name string) when using a domestic network (country code of network matches that of the United States).
These types of instructions set on the SIM cards obviously annoy most of those knowledgeable enough to know what they are and what they do. Each time a new generation of cards comes out, there is a question as to whether offending "features" have been dropped from this new generation. If so, I would run to the store and pick one up.
There are instructions on the SIM known as CSP (Custom SIM Profile) that can tell a CSP-compliant phone to do things such as disable the manual network select menu. The Cingular SIMs, since the 32k ones, had CSP instructions set to disable this menu. They also told the phone to hide true alpha tags and always display "Cingular" using something called EONS (enhanced operator name string) when using a domestic network (country code of network matches that of the United States).
These types of instructions set on the SIM cards obviously annoy most of those knowledgeable enough to know what they are and what they do. Each time a new generation of cards comes out, there is a question as to whether offending "features" have been dropped from this new generation. If so, I would run to the store and pick one up.
Thanks... thats what i was getting at by saying network select. i'm just lazy and didnt wanna type all that!
Probably next month i'll head into a corporate store to get me a new at&t sim . I just want my alpha tag and sim to match, for some reason it bothers me that they don't .
Do I have this right?: The new AT&T SIM will work in a locked Cingular phone, but not in a locked AT&T Wireless phone. An old AT&T Wireless SIM will not work in a New AT&T branded, locked phone.
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I had a Motorola V600 just before the Cingular changeover and my AT&T SIM would not work in it. It was all still AT&T Wireless at the time.
Last edited by akajohndoe; 05-23-2007 at 06:08 PM.
Hah, I read every post and i am STUNNED at how you guys think. it was awesome to read, though. i am so baffled as to why it would matter what the SIM's APPEARANCE is. I will get this SIM TO-DAY, though, if it has any FUNCTIONAL advantages, though. Are there any? I do agree that it looks cool! The last bit of "Orange" is the 3G logo. lol...
Probably next month i'll head into a corporate store to get me a new at&t sim . I just want my alpha tag and sim to match, for some reason it bothers me that they don't .
I'm glad that my wife is not bothered by that sort of thing. She is currently using an old AT&T Wireless SIM in a T-Mobile branded phone that I unlocked and her alpha tag says "Cingular".
Is it free to get this SIM? I want it too... I have the Cingular one with 3G flames (and I'll definitely keep it just for kicks).
They do not charge for sims at the real ATT stores (Corporate). If you go to someone that's just an authorized dealer, then you may be charged 25$. The agent I dealt with said they had been with Cingular/ATT for 6 years and they've never charged for sim during that time.
If ever I renew my contract, I'll ask for this new SIM. The one I have now is less than a year old. I got it when I picked up an LG CU500 the weekend those came out. At the time I was glad for a new SIM because my old one was really beat up. Yeah, I said beat up. It happens when you swap your SIM a lot, as I do, and drop it, have trouble getting it out of a SIM tray (had to employ tweezers once) or stick it in your pocket.
If that isn't a classic example of a phone geek, I dunno what is.
New SIM looks cool. I'm sure I'll get one eventually.
I'm glad that my wife is not bothered by that sort of thing. She is currently using an old AT&T Wireless SIM in a T-Mobile branded phone that I unlocked and her alpha tag says "Cingular".
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I had a T809 flashed D820 (T-Mobile branded Samsung slider) and Cingular SIM with Cingular Alpha Tag at one point and it drove me crazy ... I can't imagine having what your wife has.
There are instructions on the SIM known as CSP (Custom SIM Profile) that can tell a CSP-compliant phone to do things such as disable the manual network select menu. The Cingular SIMs, since the 32k ones, had CSP instructions set to disable this menu. They also told the phone to hide true alpha tags and always display "Cingular" using something called EONS (enhanced operator name string) when using a domestic network (country code of network matches that of the United States).
These types of instructions set on the SIM cards obviously annoy most of those knowledgeable enough to know what they are and what they do. Each time a new generation of cards comes out, there is a question as to whether offending "features" have been dropped from this new generation. If so, I would run to the store and pick one up.
some nokia's its possible to renable it and bypass the sim overwriting it. At least I think I reenabled them on the branded 3120 with a dku-5 cable and some program from that mobile manger program that works with nokias cant remember the name.
, still using ye old cingular sim
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as far as I know, the only difference is looks... I could be wrong though
thats what i was getting at by saying network select. i'm just lazy and didnt wanna type all that! 
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