8890 nice phone but crappy network!

[simon]

I'm an 8890 user and think the phone is wonderful BUT the GSM network and service in the Toronto, Canada area simply sucks!!!

I am upset that you can pay $1000.00 for an activation in this day and age and receive such poor service. Why do they have such beautiful phones on such ****ty networks and ****ty phones on decent working networks ?????

Why can't I find a nice Nokia phone on a CDMA network ??

I ask, will that ever happen ? I'm tired of seeing that ****ty old 5190 and 6185...

My utopia would be a Nokia 8890 on a CDMA network... Even my old 8260 on TDMA worked better.. Either way.. I'll be ridding myself of my 8890 and will be relunctantly having to go back to Samsung... unless someone out there knows of nice CDMA nokia's ????

-simon8890

[ValentinaDeb]

I think now that the licensing biz with CDMA has changed, Nokia will be making better CDMA models. Those Korean models look REALLY NICE--did you take a look at those?

It's too bad you can't experience how clear that phone is--I really enjoy mine, but especially when I'm abroad, which is the reason why I bought it.

On the CDMA note, does anyone think that Vodafone will change Verizon to WCDMA, and if so, will that affect the future of CDMA models (as in less demand leading to less supply)?

[simon]

thanks for tip ValentinaDeb (by far the most interesting name) :-)
I did have a look at the Korean models but simply cannot wait for the eons and light years to pass before a pathetic country like Canada receives them. I am forced to go back to either a 8260 or 8860 TDMA ... I have finally decided that after being used to a Nokia display, I can't go back to a Samsung either.

-simon8890

[ValentinaDeb]

I posted on your other thread a modification option for you if you go TDMA. I think I know someone in the Toronto area that's done it. I dunno--it's a thought. But, I totally understand how frustrating it is. That's why I ditched PacBell about 5 years ago. It wasn't great coverage then.

It makes no sense to have a useless toy when you wanted it to be a tool for communication.

[DaBigBR]

Knowing the way CDMA networks in North America can go from totally backwards and ancient technology, up to much more current 1900 technology, expect SOME CDMA service providers to implement WCDMA in SOME regions...why? Because it will be annoying, that's why.

Brad

[Bimmer]

Rogers (and AT&T in the US) has stopped selling the 8860 so it doesn't exist anymore. It is not a good idea to get the 8860 anyway because it only came with NiMH battery. At that price, I am expecting more from a phone. And you don't want to keep wiping the phone after you use it because fingerprints will show on chrome surfaces.

[Bimmer]

After all, the Nokia 8890 is also overpriced (referring to the price from Fido). How can a phone that costs $850 Cdn only comes with an AC adapter (travel charger) and one Li Ion battery. I mentioned about this in other postings as well.

Going back to CDMA is a good idea, at least in Canada. However, CDMA don't have many nice phones (in Canada) especially if you compare it to the Nokia 8890. On the other hand, I agree that your toy is useless unless it does some communication for you.

As you all know, in the US Verizon may switch to GSM. Depending on their decision, GSM may become more popular. Honestly speaking, GSM is only good for roaming. And correct me if I am wrong, CDMA has lower operating costs.

[DaBigBR]

The problem with going to GSM on Verizon's network is having two different CDMA freq. bands, which would make the overlay potentially difficult. With the way the mobile sector is performing on the street right now, don't count on any fast action.

Brad