Csoki

[cellularsales]

...is a screaming train wreck. The RipoffReport.com complaints pertaining to other markets are pretty accurate for Alabama. The company's being sued in Alabama too, and there are investigators working in the stores documenting everything.

The problem with this business is that the head honchos have realized that they can make even more money by sticking their non-employee employees with the all of the costs of running the business. A top salesman at corporate in the Birmingham market makes about $90,000.00 a year, but a CSOKI sales rep. can only hope to gross about $60,000.00 before CSOKI starts charging back anything they can imagine.

It begs the question of why a dealer would bother with CSOKI and just go work for corporate. CSOKI does next to no background investigation (they Google your name) so there's no telling what the "dealers" have been up to before they started work at CSOKI, where they have access to an enormous supply of customers' personal information.

The big lie is that the work is presented initially as an employment opportunity, but you discover very quickly that you really are in business for yourself, and that you are in competition with CSOKI, which just encourages fraud. There are at least, at last count, six different frauds being routinely perpetrated by CSOKI on its customers, including data slamming, upgrade slamming (including commission and equipment fraud), sales of used equipment as new, rebate fraud, charging sales tax on labor, and line flipping.

And those are just the frauds they foist off on customers. They have a whole different set of frauds they employ against their dealers. The corporate rep's who deal with them are constantly hammering them for fraudulent schemes which are promoted by management.

New "dealers" are forced to charter LLC's so CSOKI can skirt laws making their treatment of individual contractors illegal, but that will only end up exposing the dealers to charges of tax evasion since their corporations exist solely to buffer CSOKI from legal issues. These dealer-owned companies don't operate like corporations, and that will only buffer CSOKI for so long before the dealers turn on them under pressure from the IRS.

CSOKI is a scam that meets key definitions under RICO. Whether you're a customer or a job-seeker, steer clear of them.

wow, sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and you have nothing but a huge axe to grind. you sound exactly like the deranged person who posted on the rip off report website.

for years contractors who have been terminated and held a grudge have said that our company is being investigated. guess what? we're still here and there is no investigation. a lot of us are personal friends with upper management and have access to more info than you realize. there is no investigation, period.

as for the company being sued in alabama? who brought the case to them and what are they suing for? i'm asking these questions because it's not happening. they arne't being sued. as for not being able to make more than 60k a year that's is just grossly untrue. i've eclipsed that number for a while now and so have many of our other sales reps. reps are already approaching that number now.

now let me ask you this. why would a company who shares profit and gets paid by the work the sales rep does ever choose to cap how much money that sales rep makes??? why would the company limit them at 60k when it's more profitable for the dealer to make more money? nice try again but no one is falling for it. if there are deductions from their paychecks it's for a reason. as for the top rep in birmingham making 90k a year i'd love to see his paycheck. he would have to hit a huge multiplyer every month and on the current pay scale that just isn't happening.

as for background investigation i've done more than a handfull myself and see the records if there are any on the contractors we hire. you wouldn't know this because you've never been in management. we've had no more incidents than you average company including corporate of employees committing fraud. even people with a clean background screw up. it's going to happen when you deal with sensitive information long enough. can you say that no one at verizon wireless corporate has ever committed fraud? it's great how very little instances stereotype an entire company.

the work is never presented as an employee/employer relationship. you are presented a 100% commission only position. it's advertised in every single monster add that way. as for being in competition with csoki that's just very wrong. csoki does not sell phones, it's contractors do. so care to explain how you are competing agaisnt it?

as for the slamming data, upgrade slamming (this is laughable), selling used equipment as new, rebate fraud (rofl) charing sales tax on labor (goods and services area always taxed) and the dreaded shimmy. you are far from on base with those. upgrade slamming is a good way to lose your job anywhere including here. i'll post a pic of our used equipment. it has a big sticker on it that says USED PHONE, we do not sell used equipment as new. that's what status 2's are for, used equipment. as for shimmying, if the client knows what is being done and it's done to save them money off a handset and give them a cheaper price and they do not get messed over on a prorate then what is the problem????? full disclosure and there are no issues.

the funny thing is that almost all of what you brought up are issues that happen at corporate stores daily on a much larger basis since they are much larger company. ever wonder why their turn over is so high? people are busted for these activities all the time.

as for our indirect account managers hammering us about stuff that is simply untrue. they love us as we are one of the only agents who has their heads on straight and performs in all aspects better than their others.

as for our corporations not acting like corporations that is just very very untrue. how your run your business is your business, not the companies who contract you. if it's ran improperly then it's the dealers fault not the companies. the contracted company is hired out for it's work and then gets paid for it. taxes are paid just like any other joe schmoe running a painting business or dry wall business or anything else out there. there is no scamming there. we just pay less in taxes as a result of being incorporated.

it just sounds like you are bitter. you are probably one of the druggies who we terminated because you couldn't handle the responsibility of running your own company and i bet you left owing the company money because of it. now you are just bitter and still wasting time posting hollow claims about our company. if any of them had real founding then we would be in trouble, but none of them do. get over yourself and move on instead of making up stories like a 5 year old who just had their toys taken away from them.