Ilvla2, read the book "The Rape of Ma Bell" on the Bell System Memorial page. That explains a lot about divesture and how the government screwed that up very badly.
Fiber backhaul for Verizon in Southern Illinois in 2013 - about time.
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When Pioneer/Verizon turns on their LTE in the Spring, while AT&T still has only EDGE here, or nothing, the remaining AT&T holdouts, who are mainly iPhone users, will flee AT&T to Pioneer/Verizon in a heartbeat, assuming Apple introduces an LTE-capable iPhone that will work on this network, which no doubt they will. There are already people picking up Verizon service in anticipation. When I told the manager of the AT&T store this yesterday, he said "but our LTE is still faster than Verizon's", I just had to remind him that Pioneer/Verizon is turning on their LTE HERE, in the SPRING, while there is NO AT&T LTE within 150 miles of that store, and probably never will be, and that the ONLY 3G in this quarter of the state is 4 towers in the city of Woodward, and that it took action by State Representatives *****ing at AT&T to get that 3G installed in the first place! What stupid idiots are working for AT&T??
If it took legislative threats to get AT&T to put 3G in a city of 15,000 people, why should we have ANY faith that AT&T will make good on its promise to roll out 3G to its entire native EDGE footprint this year?
WCDMA does not have the hard distance limits GSM has. You kind of missed my point there ggore.
Thankfully I have not had to deal with people as dumb as the manager you talked to in the AT&T store. I'm sure that, deep down, he is VERY panicked and very AFRAID he's going to lose his job because of the bloodbath that will soon happen there. If he isn't afraid, he should be.
Big Red is coming. Maybe he will get it when Verizon purchases Pioneer. I think that would get his attention. Maybe using the words "buildout" and "FCC" would help as well.
GSM isn't totally limited at 22 miles or whatever either, it has methods to extend that distance which should be no problem given the equipment there is these days.
iPhone 4 on AT&T:
The manager is just a paean, I'm sure. It is an AT&T-owned store, very nice and fully staffed. But I'm sure it is a lot of fun for those people to sell the latest hot 3G or 4G phone to someone while telling them oh by the way, the 3G only works within a 5-mile radius of that store and that the closest other 3G is at least 80 miles away in any direction and that it is 130 miles to the nearest 4G in Oklahoma City. So go ahead, buy this shiny new Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket 4G phone, take it home and enjoy your EDGE service. Really good for sales, LOL.
Interesting the manager said that! It confirms what we read in that leaked FCC document!! Looking forward to 2012 then ...and it looks like I'll be busy with the maps lol.
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zeph, GSM is indeed hard limited by design at 35km (about 22 miles). Some base station equipment can extend this to 70km by using two time slots per user, but this halves capacity and disables data entirely.
Never understood why GSM set the hard limit at 22 miles, guess it was the best trade off for distance and performance..
iDEN a TDMA based tech has no such built in hard limit, its set by the engineers at the site.
Iridium Sat. phones use a TDMA based technology and of course transmit over 22 miles
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