National 3G Maps

[ilvla2]

Looks like they hit some of rural California this time on the 101 (not NorCal though ) but Paso Robles and Morro Bay - the 1900MHz only aka SLO Cal.

Well, at least they're on the right road, now they need to move northwest on 101 a few hundred miles

[formercanuck]

From what I can see on FCC... it looks like AT&T doesn't have much spectrum in those markets of NorCal
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp
Select Search by BTA - Redding, CA
5MHz
1 SHASTA, CA County 06089 163256
2 TEHAMA, CA County 06103 56039

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...sp?licKey=9910

Leased to T-Mo cancelled
5MHz
1 SISKIYOU, CA County 06093 44301
2 TRINITY, CA County 06105 13022

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...p?licKey=10545

5MHz
1 SISKIYOU, CA County 06093 44301
2 TRINITY, CA County 06105 13022

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...licKey=1100531

Not enough spectrum (5MHz in 2 counties, 10MHz in the other 2)

[ilvla2]

AT&T has 3g in some of Shasta County, in Redding, Anderson, Cottonwood and Palo Cedro.

[CA]

Who is reliable, Verizon, Sprint, or ATT? 3G. Here's the reliability ratings:

http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=167391&page=1&zoomIdx=1

[zephxiii]

Ima try and update the map next week, going to be out of town starting tuesday. I can see some expansion.

[ilvla2]

I'm glad they are somewhere, they certainly aren't expanding 3G in NorCal, grrr Have a good trip by the way Zeph, where ya off to? Hopefully somewhere away from that midwestern heatmidity

[formercanuck]

Some areas - eg Eureka has 10MHz

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...sp?licKey=8886

5MHZ in Marin/Menodinco
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...licKey=2325823

15MHz in Redding
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...itionID=132958

Another 5MHz for Marin
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...licKey=2421347

15MHz for Lake/Mendocino
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...licKey=2550070

5MHz more for Redding
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...itionID=146603

I suspect that AT&T would have to physically build out more capacity (sites) to support 3G + GSM/EDGE.
In those cities/towns, along the Pacific, there isn't much traffic. Along I-5 freeway traffic would most likely bring it to its knees.

Eg. Yuba / Marysville has 15MHz of PCS + Cell A. 27.5 MHz paired! That's more than Los Angeles!!
Take I-5 through an Edge Wireless area, and you're looking at half of that. It should be supportable - as long as there's enough physical buildout (I suspect only 1 3G carrier channel though).

[ilvla2]

They can do it, in Northern California Edge Wireless put 3G in Ukiah (which covers Ukiah, Talmage, Calpella and a TINY bit of Redwood Valley), Lakeport, Clearlake, Clearlake Oaks, Lucerne, Glenhaven, Fortuna, Eureka, Arcata, McKinleyville, Blue Lake, Crescent City and Susanville, and Edge wasn't done (with 2G or 3G site rollouts) when AT&T took over, so I suspect it has little to do with spectrum and a lot to do with AT&T simply not putting it up. Hwy.101 actually gets quite a bit of traffic, especially in the summer, as it's the main north/south route through Marin, Sonoma, Mendocino, Humboldt and Del Norte Counties (NW CA), plus you have roads from the Sacramento Valley that feed into it like Hwy's 20 and 299, and Hwy.20 and 1 from the coast.

[zephxiii]

Old Maps:

Small (1500 pixels wide) 211KB:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old4-3-09/att3gsmall.gif

Medium (4200 pixels wide) 1.1MB:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old4-3-09/att3gmed.gif

LARGE (6000 pixes wide) 1.49MB:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old4-3-09/att3gfull.gif


Difference Map:

http://www.xti9.com/att/11-14-90-TO-6-12-09-3G.gif

Changes are from 11-14-08 to 6-12-09.

[formercanuck]

For ilvla2, it looks like expansion exists in NorCal since last year... Sacramento/Yuba City area... an a single 'dot' around Redding , but more in Oregon though.
Large chunks in SoCal of expansion though (850MHz coverage areas).

A 'lot' of the existing urban areas that have a bit of green added to them, I suspect are the 850MHz overlays.

[ilvla2]

For ilvla2, it looks like expansion exists in NorCal since last year... Sacramento/Yuba City area... an a single 'dot' around Redding , but more in Oregon though.
Large chunks in SoCal of expansion though (850MHz coverage areas).

A 'lot' of the existing urban areas that have a bit of green added to them, I suspect are the 850MHz overlays.

Yep, they turned up 3G in Redding, Anderson, Cottonwood, Chico, Gridley, Yuba City and Marysville last summer, that's the last new 3G expansion in NorCal with AT&T.

[formercanuck]

You know what happens after zephxii updates his map... they'll probably post a new one next week.

[ilvla2]

You know what happens after zephxii updates his map... they'll probably post a new one next week.

Yeah, and it'll be the same as the last one

[formercanuck]

Pretty accurate between SoCal and Oregon Coast

[ilvla2]

Pretty accurate between SoCal and Oregon Coast

I told ya so Someday, it may actually have more blue on it....wishing on a star...