What will Sprint do with its 900mhz freq

[omegalh]

I saw the thread for what people think sprint will do with there 800mhz

and i wanted to know what people think Sprint can do with there 900mhz freq

What can and will Sprint do with there 900mhz freq

[bigsnake49]

I saw the thread for what people think sprint will do with there 800mhz

and i wanted to know what people think Sprint can do with there 900mhz freq

What can and will Sprint do with there 900mhz freq

I thought that Nextel had to give up their 700, and 900 MHz holdings as part of the rebanding effort. Then Sprint/Nextel bought some 900MHz spectrum from Velocita Wireless as part of the rebanding effort. They found out that they did not really need it and so they sold it to a company whose name escapes just now.

[omegalh]

this is something i found online

it was on a pdf

Strong spectrum position:
53 MHz at 800, 900 and 1900;
2.5 GHz licenses and leases

[WiWavelength]

SMR 900 MHz is a relatively small band, only 10 MHz bandwidth (896-901/935-940 MHz). Sprint Nextel is using iDEN 900 for needed capacity during 800 MHz reconfiguration, as many iDEN 800 channels are lost during the process. Some iDEN mobiles lacking iDEN 900 capability have had to be updated or replaced. So, for at least the time being, Sprint Nextel necessarily maintains its SMR 900 MHz holdings.

AJ

[bigsnake49]

SMR 900 MHz is a relatively small band, only 10 MHz bandwidth (896-901/935-940 MHz). Sprint Nextel is using iDEN 900 for needed capacity during 800 MHz reconfiguration, as many iDEN 800 channels are lost during the process. Some iDEN mobiles lacking iDEN 900 capability have had to be updated or replaced. So, for at least the time being, Sprint Nextel necessarily maintains its SMR 900 MHz holdings.

AJ

AJ,

Here is what I found on the net:

United Wireless Acquires Velocita Wireless, L.P.
Woodbridge, NJ – July 2, 2007 United Wireless Holdings, Inc. announced today that it has acquired Velocita Wireless, L.P., an indirect subsidiary of Sprint Nextel Corp. (NYSE:S), in a merger transaction. In connection with the merger, Velocita Wireless will lease certain FCC spectrum channels from various affiliates of Sprint Nextel Corp., subject to any required FCC approvals.

Headquartered in Woodbridge, NJ , Velocita Wireless operates a nationwide Mobitex™ wireless data network covering 93% of the U.S. business population that delivers data communications solutions, including email messaging, machine-to-machine (M2M), telematics, point-of-sale, and telemetry applications to its approximately 200,000 customers.
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It seems that they sold the company but kept the spectrum aquired thru Velocita Wireless. United Wireless is leasing some of the channels from Sprint.

[WiWavelength]

Mobitex is a paging airlink. United Wireless & Velocita Wireless are paging carriers.

Paging has relatively low data overhead. Even a 12.5 kHz channel w/ only a 6 dB C/I ratio can theoretically achieve 35 kbps throughput -- enough to quickly deliver a lot of paging messages. As such, paging carriers oft deploy just a few tall "sticks" per market w/ one channel per site.

Long story short, paging carriers use very little spectrum. Sprint Nextel still has the lion's share of SMR 900 MHz licenses.

Try this example. Run a Market Based query at the FCC ULS.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...archMarket.jsp

For Market Type, select MTA. For Market, select MTA001. For Radio Service Code, select YD.

In this example, nearly all of the SMR 900 MHz bandwidth remain in the hands of holding companies located at (drum roll...) 2001 Edmund Halley Dr, Reston, VA. United Spectrum Management Services leases a whopping 0.225 MHz, which allows for nine 12.5 kHz FDD channels.

AJ

[bigsnake49]

Mobitex is a paging airlink. United Wireless & Velocita Wireless are paging carriers.

Paging has relatively low data overhead. Even a 12.5 kHz channel w/ only a 6 dB C/I ratio can theoretically achieve 35 kbps throughput -- enough to quickly deliver a lot of paging messages. As such, paging carriers oft deploy just a few tall "sticks" per market w/ one channel per site.

Long story short, paging carriers use very little spectrum. Sprint Nextel still has the lion's share of SMR 900 MHz licenses.

Try this example. Run a Market Based query at the FCC ULS.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...archMarket.jsp

For Market Type, select MTA. For Market, select MTA001. For Radio Service Code, select YD.

In this example, nearly all of the SMR 900 MHz bandwidth remain in the hands of holding companies located at (drum roll...) 2001 Edmund Halley Dr, Reston, VA. United Spectrum Management Services leases a whopping 0.225 MHz, which allows for nine 12.5 kHz FDD channels.

AJ

Thanks AJ. After rebanding, what do you think they should do with this band?

[pcsfan]

Thanks AJ. After rebanding, what do you think they should do with this band?

Sell it to Southern when they purchase Nextels Florida Iden coverage which combined with their own panhandle . covers the whole state of Florida for theml.Also before this is all over several regional Iden operators will probably surface purchasing pieces of Iden coverage.

[bigsnake49]

Sell it to Southern when they purchase Nextels Florida Iden coverage which combined with their own panhandle . covers the whole state of Florida for theml.Also before this is all over several regional Iden operators will probably surface purchasing pieces of Iden coverage.

Why would Southern do that? Not in their service territory, unless they have ambitions to go nationwide.

[pcsfan]

[QUOTE=bigsnake49;14815540]Why would Southern do that? Not in their service territory, unless they have ambitions to go nationwide.[/QU OTE] You are a smart guy.Sometimes we cant see the forest for the trees.Southern already covers the panhandle of Florida buying Sprints coverage in Florida is in their backyard and fits together like pieces of a puzzle.They dont have the resources or the focus to go nationwide with a technology they know is in its final years.To pick up the rest of Florida fits like a glove and is well within their current corporate and financial reach.Its a no brainer.

[bigsnake49]

[QUOTE=pcsfan;14816442]

Why would Southern do that? Not in their service territory, unless they have ambitions to go nationwide.[/QU OTE] You are a smart guy.Sometimes we cant see the forest for the trees.Southern already covers the panhandle of Florida buying Sprints coverage in Florida is in their backyard and fits together like pieces of a puzzle.They dont have the resources or the focus to go nationwide with a technology they know is in its final years.To pick up the rest of Florida fits like a glove and is well within their current corporate and financial reach.Its a no brainer.

Unless you can come up with numbers of potential IDEN customers in Florida that would make financial sense, it's just a pipe dream. They cannot subsidize the network for by using it for their own purpose unless they buy FPL, Progress Energy, TECO, OUC, JEA, GRU, etc. and convince Comcast, Brighthouse and Cox to reverse their adoption of Verizon and convince all the police depts to stay on IDEN instead of the smartphones they are increasingly adopting. Oh, BTW construction in Florida has been in the tank since abt 2007. Solinc in Florida? I don't think so!

The best think for Solinc to do is to convince Motorola to come up with hybrid IDEN/Verizon LTE phones. Now given that Solinc probably has less than a million customers, I don't think Motorola will be rushing to create such handset unless Solinc heavily subsidizes such development. Actually the best think for Solinc to do is to subsidize the development of the PS LTE networks in its territory and piggyback on those. There's a lot of discussion in getting utilities involved in that effort as secondary users of that spectrum to help defray the cost.

[pcsfan]

[QUOTE=bigsnake49;14816479]

Unless you can come up with numbers of potential IDEN customers in Florida that would make financial sense, it's just a pipe dream. They cannot subsidize the network for by using it for their own purpose unless they buy FPL, Progress Energy, TECO, OUC, JEA, GRU, etc. and convince Comcast, Brighthouse and Cox to reverse their adoption of Verizon and convince all the police depts to stay on IDEN instead of the smartphones they are increasingly adopting. Oh, BTW construction in Florida has been in the tank since abt 2007. Solinc in Florida? I don't think so!

The best think for Solinc to do is to convince Motorola to come up with hybrid IDEN/Verizon LTE phones. Now given that Solinc probably has less than a million customers, I don't think Motorola will be rushing to create such handset unless Solinc heavily subsidizes such development. Actually the best think for Solinc to do is to subsidize the development of the PS LTE networks in its territory and piggyback on those. There's a lot of discussion in getting utilities involved in that effort as secondary users of that spectrum to help defray the cost.

Heres a bulletin for you Southern is already in northwest Florida.The PS LTE netwoks are just pipedreams right now as no one agrees on the standards for such a network.Until standards occur not going to happen.This is not a normal set of circumstances they can acquire a built out iden network for a song so the rules are way different here.Sprint can throw the iden infastucture in the garbage if they choose but Southern is commited to iden till 2017 barring any changes so lets make a deal applies here for sure.You will see pigs fly before there is an iden Verizon dual mode.Much greater possibility of Southern hooking up with US Cellular and Metro Pcs for roaming if they choose that route.We all know iden is an obsolete technology but for a bargain basement price the rules quickly change.Everything has a price.I would not be suprised to see other regional iden carriers pop up where there is dense good iden coverage such as Michigan.

[xcharles718]

Can't Sprint deploy LTE over 900MHz?