Any New Windows Mobile Phones Planned

[bkrosco]

My Q is working OK for me. However, I would like to know if there are any Windows mobile 6 based phones in the works.

Thanks.

[anythingbutmine]

No.
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[dmty]

Thats kinda sad. I was hoping to see something from HTC soon.

[tearsonurcheek]

Doesn't mean there aren't. Just none that we're aware of. Many times, phones have been in testing for quite a while before we find out about them. Most phones don't hit the shelf as quick as the RAZR did.

[ilvla2]

Thats kinda sad. I was hoping to see something from HTC soon.

There are a lot that have just come out (like my AT&T Tilt) and more on the way, just none that have been announced for US Cellular.

[anythingbutmine]

Two reasons:
1) USCC isn't into smartphones
2) Smartphone manufacturers aren't into CDMA

[BigE]

Two reasons:
1) USCC isn't into smartphones
2) Smartphone manufacturers aren't into CDMA

In the past I may have agreed with #1 but with the addition of the various BB's, especially the 8830 and now the Q, I don't think you can say that's true. While there may be no other WM devices in testing now, or at least none that anyone wants to admit, you can't say that the Q will be the last.

Your second statement is even more absurd than your first. Verizon has Treo's, BB's, various WM phones, Sprint has the same, including the Mogul and Touch by HTC, Alltel has the Q and a few other WM phones.

The GSM carriers may get most of the "newest" or "coolest" phones but to say that smartphone manufacturers aren't "into" CDMA is ridiculous.

[ilvla2]

No, but they're certainly more into GSM, which makes sense as most of the world uses it.

[BigE]

No, but they're certainly more into GSM, which makes sense as most of the world uses it.

Exactly, which I conceded in my post. But to make a blanket statement like that is just dumb.

[fincher]

Q9m or Q9c...eventually.

[anythingbutmine]

Your second statement is even more absurd than your first.

The GSM carriers may get most of the "newest" or "coolest" phones but to say that smartphone manufacturers aren't "into" CDMA is ridiculous.

But to make a blanket statement like that is just dumb.

You speak as if I've disgraced your deceased mother.

Phone manufacturers have a much larger market in GSM - partially because most of the known world has adopted it and partially because it's easier to use devices across different carriers, thanks to SIM cards. In short: GSM gets preferential treatment, and thus, CDMA phones are far behind GSM, both in supply and in technological advancement.

As for USCC, other than the Blackberry line (which is in line with VZW and Sprint's lineups, but still not equal because of the lack of reasonably pervasive EVDO coverage), it has a mere single smartphone in its lineup -- a smartphone that came out over a year after its release (and which has recently been discontinued by every other leading carrier). Before you go flaming me over that too, let me explain that I bring up EVDO coverage not to bash USCC, but to point out that smartphone users are the majority of the people that use that service.

My statements, while oversimplified, were not absurd. Don't get your undies in a bundle.

[BigE]

You speak as if I've disgraced your deceased mother.

Phone manufacturers have a much larger market in GSM - partially because most of the known world has adopted it and partially because it's easier to use devices across different carriers, thanks to SIM cards. In short: GSM gets preferential treatment, and thus, CDMA phones are far behind GSM, both in supply and in technological advancement.

As for USCC, other than the Blackberry line (which is in line with VZW and Sprint's lineups, but still not equal because of the lack of reasonably pervasive EVDO coverage), it has a mere single smartphone in its lineup -- a smartphone that came out over a year after its release (and which has recently been discontinued by every other leading carrier). Before you go flaming me over that too, let me explain that I bring up EVDO coverage not to bash USCC, but to point out that smartphone users are the majority of the people that use that service.

My statements, while oversimplified, were not absurd. Don't get your undies in a bundle.

1. My mother is alive and well
2. You changed your statement - first you said that smartphone manufacturers don't make phones for CDMA - now you are saying that GSM phones are more advanced than CDMA, which no one in their right mind would argue against, however it wasn't your original statement
3. I wasn't flaming you, I was merely pointing out that your admittedly oversimplified statements were erroneous

Now if you don't mind I'm going to go call my mother

[ii Candor ii]

Who cares. GSM. CDMA. Smartphones. Oversimplified. Erroneous. Whatever. There are no known WM smartphones on the USC horizon.

[anythingbutmine]

2. You changed your statement - first you said that smartphone manufacturers don't make phones for CDMA - now you are saying that GSM phones are more advanced than CDMA, which no one in their right mind would argue against, however it wasn't your original statement

I never changed my statement:

1) USCC isn't into smartphones
2) Smartphone manufacturers aren't into CDMA

Proof of my statements: 1) USCC, with the exception of the Blackberries, has one outdated smartphone. 2) CDMA manufacturers have a sparse lineup of outdated smartphones.

I don't understand how you've already forgotten what I said, because you agreed with my original (and unchanged) assertion the first time around (as did ilvla2, whom you agreed with as well):

No, but they're certainly more into GSM, which makes sense as most of the world uses it.

Exactly, which I conceded in my post.

3. I wasn't flaming you, I was merely pointing out that your admittedly oversimplified statements were erroneous

There's a difference between "pointing out" and being condescending and arrogant.

[tower master]

I wouldn't go so far as to say USCC isn't into smartphones. When rolling out something like WM, there is a lot involved on the back end that takes a good chunk of resources to complete. Well, now that part is done. We already had a good relationship with Moto, so the Q was a natural progression into that world. I don't know exactly what the process is like, but to bring in another vendor's WM phones (like HTC for example), is quite an ordeal. I don't know if we are in talks with anyone else right now, but I would expect that the Q isn't going to be the end of WM for USCC.
And it's true that GSM seems to get all the top notch gear, but 3 years from now it isn't going to make a difference, so it's not a point I even feel should be argued.