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Thread: Need Help with Ntt Docomo D905i... Unlocking

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    That's exactly how most international providers' data settings are set- IP, APN, and homepage. So that's one less roadblock. Quite intersting, though- I imagine someone living in a 3G-enabled country could try the SIM hack with one of those two phones and see if data works.

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    I'd love to try it myself, but there are a few things that make me worry...
    First, we'll have to know what kind of SIM DoCoMo uses. If it's Comp128V2 we are unable to extract the KI.
    Second, because of the same reason, our local network's SIM also mustn't be Comp128V2, which means no 3G SIM will work for the hack.

    Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

    @yangj08
    Could you give us a bit more information about what the people in that Chinese forum wrote? What kind of SIMs did they use? How did they manage to extract the KI?
    I wished I could read Chinese...

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    This point was discovered and noted in another thread some time ago. I can't be bothered finding it again, so I'll repeat what I noted here.

    Those settings aren't for setting up access to i-mode services outside Japan. They're in fact designed for you to use a internet service provider other than DoCoMo's i-mode service in case for some bizarre reason, you'd want to do something like that. Remember, DoCoMo considers i-mode to be nothing more than a method for accessing the internet, and they charge you a base fee for i-mode access (200 yen by memory), as well as internet usage charges (eg. the packet houdai flat-rate plan). However, you could sign up with a different internet service provider, using DoCoMo's network, and access the internet on a different payment basis. In this case, you'd enter the different ISP's access details in that menu.

    This is all documented in the phones' manuals, so I'm not just dreaming a theory up or anything.

    Hope this clears this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL9999
    Those settings aren't for setting up access to i-mode services outside Japan.
    No doubt you're right with that. But due to the fact, that this host selection menu exists, it still would be worth a try setting it up with overseas i-mode data. Or, if you don't need e-mailing, any other "normal" internet access data. Even it was not designed for this purpose, it definitely is worth a try.
    Since no FOMA handsets could be unlocked so far, nobody knows if it works or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeenix
    I'd love to try it myself, but there are a few things that make me worry...
    First, we'll have to know what kind of SIM DoCoMo uses. If it's Comp128V2 we are unable to extract the KI.
    Second, because of the same reason, our local network's SIM also mustn't be Comp128V2, which means no 3G SIM will work for the hack.

    Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

    @yangj08
    Could you give us a bit more information about what the people in that Chinese forum wrote? What kind of SIMs did they use? How did they manage to extract the KI?
    I wished I could read Chinese...
    They're doing it with a Softbank USIM, a China Mobile SIM, and a blank SIM (called an "877 card"- maybe it's limited to a specific type?) because they're working on the 904SH. I just posted the steps because I had thought that simply substituting a FOMA card for a USIM would work too. I don't know how they extract the Ki or the IMSI, though (IMSI from the DoCoMo UIM, and IMSI/Ki from your provider's card). That forum is a bit more technically oriented and assumes a lot of things that I don't know- one of which is that readers know how to do the Ki/IMSI extraction.

    Rather curious, though- I thought that China Mobile used v2 SIMs since 1999 (I was told this when I first wanted to buy a SIM reader/writer some time ago). How are they able to extract the Ki from the SIM then...?

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    Not true... I have an Unlocked Original Docomo Foma Phone...

    Its an M1000. I use it with Tmo now.

    Everytime i try this it tells me I need to setup an account. But later it tells me that tmo does not support the required encryption standard... Probebly due to its not bieng 3G network...

    My Dad has ATT so I will try it with his phone... when I get a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolvorine4424
    Not true... I have an Unlocked Original Docomo Foma Phone...
    Its an M1000. I use it with Tmo now.
    Ya, well, I admit, didn't think about this one. But to be honest, I wouldn't call this thing "original DoCoMo FOMA Phone". It's just a crappy (sorry ) Motorola with a few changes to fit into the Japanese market... Not so much worth to mention in my opinion...
    We are actually talking about the real Japanese phones here, don't we?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolvorine4424
    Everytime i try this it tells me I need to setup an account. But later it tells me that tmo does not support the required encryption standard... Probebly due to its not bieng 3G network...
    What do you mean by "this"? Does the M1000 also have this host selection menu I mentioned before?
    Just as a matter of interest and a bit OT: Can you use the M1000 for anything else except making Calls and SMS? Can you set up your own eMail account for example?

    @yangj08
    Thanks so far. I didn't realize that we only need the IMSI from the DoCoMo SIM. That makes it a lot easier, of course. But still, finding a very old local SIM that is v1 and that still works will be not very easy I guess. At least not in 3G countries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeenix
    @yangj08
    Thanks so far. I didn't realize that we only need the IMSI from the DoCoMo SIM. That makes it a lot easier, of course. But still, finding a very old local SIM that is v1 and that still works will be not very easy I guess. At least not in 3G countries...
    This will make the job easier. It's a Ki extractor for v2 SIMs. Need to register at that forum to download it, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yangj08
    This will make the job easier. It's a Ki extractor for v2 SIMs. Need to register at that forum to download it, though.
    Thanks again! It's a whole bunch of stuff one has to download from there. Do you mind giving us a translation of their explanation again?

    Although it actually is hard to belive this software works... As far as I know, it would be the first software out there that is able to extract KI's from v2 SIM cards... Anyway, we gotta try!

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    Well, this is why I got myself a D905i...

    I dont have host selection But i can add networks to it.

    I have all features except Mopera V.

    I can use the internet, Tzones and the like... Oh, No Video Phone eather.

    *Downloaded*

    Here is a translation (may not be accurate) I used Google

    [offtopic]
    More than a card, SIM V1, V2, V0 card decoding procedures and Directory 8.24 latest collate
    8.24 updated findsimki to 1.3 final version, and the support of findki0.5, which claims to solve the current all mobile card a success rate of% 99.
    QuickScan solution to the latest card software, the software features of the card is fast, much faster than findsimki, and many of my friends reaction findsimki inextricably with QuickScan can untie.
    So please use QuickScan1.28 conduct of the card, such as the failure of the card, try again findsimki1.3 final version of XX, if not directly findsimki final version of the card, can use findki0.5 under findsimki final version shown rand1, rand2 for poor ju decoder.
    If not so that the former can continue to try the old version of the software, things of this there are certain cards of luck, and sometimes new software inextricably also inextricably does not mean that the old software often see luck.

    Purple meteor 07.8.24

    With the use of compressed packets introduced primarily involves the use of new software XX KI then calculated in a group with a woronscan KI software under this launch out the remaining seven KI then Converter software it the old cards, including SMS messages preservation center the DAT file, DAT will be opened by DatMiner inside KI replacement for the trip ahead of you out on this perfect reproduction of the card.

    8.24 latest finishing more than one card, SIM V1, V2, V0 card decoding procedures and tutorial package
    Paper presented: Quick Solution to the latest card software, pay attention to some of the software used加壳anti-crack, it may Kaspersky software for the wrong virus.
    [/offtopic]

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolvorine4424
    Well, this is why I got myself a D905i...

    I dont have host selection But i can add networks to it.

    I have all features except Mopera V.

    I can use the internet, Tzones and the like... Oh, No Video Phone eather.

    *Downloaded*

    Here is a translation (may not be accurate) I used Google

    [offtopic]
    More than a card, SIM V1, V2, V0 card decoding procedures and Directory 8.24 latest collate
    8.24 updated findsimki to 1.3 final version, and the support of findki0.5, which claims to solve the current all mobile card a success rate of% 99.
    QuickScan solution to the latest card software, the software features of the card is fast, much faster than findsimki, and many of my friends reaction findsimki inextricably with QuickScan can untie.
    So please use QuickScan1.28 conduct of the card, such as the failure of the card, try again findsimki1.3 final version of XX, if not directly findsimki final version of the card, can use findki0.5 under findsimki final version shown rand1, rand2 for poor ju decoder.
    If not so that the former can continue to try the old version of the software, things of this there are certain cards of luck, and sometimes new software inextricably also inextricably does not mean that the old software often see luck.

    Purple meteor 07.8.24

    With the use of compressed packets introduced primarily involves the use of new software XX KI then calculated in a group with a woronscan KI software under this launch out the remaining seven KI then Converter software it the old cards, including SMS messages preservation center the DAT file, DAT will be opened by DatMiner inside KI replacement for the trip ahead of you out on this perfect reproduction of the card.

    8.24 latest finishing more than one card, SIM V1, V2, V0 card decoding procedures and tutorial package
    Paper presented: Quick Solution to the latest card software, pay attention to some of the software used加壳anti-crack, it may Kaspersky software for the wrong virus.
    [/offtopic]
    BTW- "more than a card" is actually supposed to translate into "one card, multiple numbers" (which is just what it sounds like, but I don't know how it works).

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    Ok, I'm sure I can get it to work...

    I just need the foma locked phone and a Foma card... to play with.

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    Can you guys really understand google's translation? That text has almost no grammar, I kind of don't get it at all... Maybe because I'm not a native English speaker?
    Anyway, can somebody please, please translate this translation?
    What are the necessary steps to do? If all things are cleared up, I'm gonna get a card reader and try it!

    @wolvorine
    Did you get your card reader and blank SIM yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeenix
    Can you guys really understand google's translation? That text has almost no grammar, I kind of don't get it at all... Maybe because I'm not a native English speaker?
    Anyway, can somebody please, please translate this translation?
    What are the necessary steps to do? If all things are cleared up, I'm gonna get a card reader and try it!

    @wolvorine
    Did you get your card reader and blank SIM yet?
    All right, then, let me give it a go (translation from article because I speak Chinese)-
    "One card, multiple numbers" V0, V1, V2 SIM decoding program download and instructions updated August 24

    On August 24 "findsimki" had been updated to the final build of 1.3 and is paired with "findki 0.5"; success rate is 99%.

    The newest QuickScan SIM decoder has been included; this program is faster, and it will work to decode SIMs that "findsimki" can not.

    This is why you should try QuickScan 1.28 to decode your SIM data first, and try "findsimki" second. If that does not properly decode your SIM, then use "findki 0.5" in conjunction with the rand1 and rand2 data from "findsimki" to decode your SIM data.

    If the new versions don't work, try the old versions of the programs. Just because a new program won't do it doesn't mean that the older versions can't either. If it still doesn't work, then try again- there's an element of luck to this. ( )

    Purple Meteor 07.8.24

    (this program is irrevelant to what we're doing here because it's for direct SIM copying, which is most definitely not what we're trying to do- from this point, follow the instructions earlier in the thread)

    August 24, 2007- newest SIM v0, v1, v2 Ki extractor and instructions
    Special note- because part of the programs use (don't know what this is), Kaspersky anti-virus may falsely flag this file as a virus.


    There- is that more readable? (BTW- SIM decoding is their term for extracting data from the SIM)

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    Haha, Bummer...

    I was scanning the sim and before I got to 40000 a38's, I got an error Sim May Be blocked...

    Then When I put it into my phone I have a message "Unregistered Sim"


    Now, This SIM is very OLD. at least 10 years... I will go to Tmo and tell them What in the hell happened and get a new sim...

    I did the Stong Ki Search... this may be why it crapped out on me...
    Plus for some reason, my sim did not want to communicate at 3mhz, only 7.14Mhz... Thats funny. I wonder why...


    Hey, there is a good side to this. This is my first RIP Sim...


    UPDATE:

    Everything still works, except it does NOT connect to the network nomore...
    I can still access the phonebook and other info.

    Next sim in progress, I'm just running the normal Ki Scan. not the strong Ki Scan... this sim is newer also. I hope it completes.


    UPDATE2:

    I have extracted the Ki from this SIM...
    Use the Normal Scan. i got it, before it reached 26000 A38's.

    I have the software, If anyone is interested, I can Email it or post it somewhere. Its SIMScanner v10.0. Not sure if its the correct name.

    Using: 6.12 Mhz (16457 bps) This is the slowest speed this SIM can communicate on.

    On the other card that Failled, I used 7.14Mhz (19200bps) Maybe it was to fast. So far I learned. Use normal scan First and the slowest speed the SIM can Comm on...
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