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    UMA coming to rogers

    I logged into my rogers account today and went to "Manage Wireless Services". I noticed there is now a "Register for UMA service" link on the page. The link does not work, but it looks like a sign that UMA is coming soon. Perhaps if/when the BB 8120 pearl w/ Wi-Fi is introduced.

    I wonder if Rogers will offer a package like T-Mobile ($10 or $20/month) for unlimited calling over UMA. Or if they will make UMA available to everyone but not give a price cut for calls over UMA? Hmmmmm

    See attached screenshot.

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    If you go to http://www.umatechnology.org/participants/index.htm, you will see that Rogers Wireless is listed as once of the Participating Companies.

    ... sounds interesting

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    The link doesn't work..but VERY interesting none the less!

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    this was posted a while back, there's an option that popped up in SC called wirless home zone but wasn't active.

    it's a matter of time, the service will most likely be offered with wifi enabled hpones like some nokia's and berries.. what's not known is if you'll need Rogers home phone.

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    I like UMA, but it seems TMO has had some issues with it. Hopefully the bugs are ironed out once Rogers deploys it.

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    Over the weekend while at a Rogers Wireless in Halifax their kiosk had the home phone section in it and while asking about it and if they'd be getting a 8820 or 8320 phone and the @home service. The rep said yes they were getting it in the new year.

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    ^Don't trust the reps....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jase88
    I like UMA, but it seems TMO has had some issues with it. Hopefully the bugs are ironed out once Rogers deploys it.
    Only because their data centre was flooded out and their backup centre couldn't handle the load

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    Thats just great. What a great business decision made by rogers, with no consideration for the customer. Let me get this straight.

    When out of range of a wireless network:

    1)Data goes through tower
    2) Data goes through Rogers (Metered here)
    3) Out to the internet

    When IN range of network, the current setup is
    1) Data goes through Wireless Access point
    2) Out to the internet

    What they have done is squeezed in a "1.5" step
    1) Data goes through Wireless Access point
    1.5) Data goes through Rogers' data server (AGAIN, METERED)
    2) Out to the internet


    Looks like they are going to route traffic through the wireless network through Rogers. This is less expensive than going through the cell tower, and they still get to manage (and charge) for data. Yet another area where Rogers is able make money is covered! Cha-Ching!

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    I hope this comes soon, I would love to be able to use my phone in the country, this would allow me to somewhat use it now. I hope it would be compatible with my TyTn
    Man gets hit by Brick Phone! Ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldIRC
    Only because their data centre was flooded out and their backup centre couldn't handle the load
    No, I'm aware of that problem. I was referring to the handoff issues they've experienced...

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    UMA has great benefits for consumers:

    a) Improved coverage footprint: Basically the ability to build coverage where you need it.

    b) One number! No more need for home #....UMA is basically VOIP.

    Rogers will charge for UMA, but having the ability to get your phone calls over UMA will be cheaper for you....

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Stamp
    Thats just great. What a great business decision made by rogers, with no consideration for the customer. Let me get this straight.

    When out of range of a wireless network:

    1)Data goes through tower
    2) Data goes through Rogers (Metered here)
    3) Out to the internet

    When IN range of network, the current setup is
    1) Data goes through Wireless Access point
    2) Out to the internet

    What they have done is squeezed in a "1.5" step
    1) Data goes through Wireless Access point
    1.5) Data goes through Rogers' data server (AGAIN, METERED)
    2) Out to the internet


    Looks like they are going to route traffic through the wireless network through Rogers. This is less expensive than going through the cell tower, and they still get to manage (and charge) for data. Yet another area where Rogers is able make money is covered! Cha-Ching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Stamp
    Thats just great. What a great business decision made by rogers, with no consideration for the customer. Let me get this straight.

    When out of range of a wireless network:

    1)Data goes through tower
    2) Data goes through Rogers (Metered here)
    3) Out to the internet

    When IN range of network, the current setup is
    1) Data goes through Wireless Access point
    2) Out to the internet

    What they have done is squeezed in a "1.5" step
    1) Data goes through Wireless Access point
    1.5) Data goes through Rogers' data server (AGAIN, METERED)
    2) Out to the internet


    Looks like they are going to route traffic through the wireless network through Rogers. This is less expensive than going through the cell tower, and they still get to manage (and charge) for data. Yet another area where Rogers is able make money is covered! Cha-Ching!
    OK, you don't understand how UMA works. How is the call ever going to go magically from the wifi AP and then "out to the internet" without passing through Rogers' servers? This "1.5" step is pretty necessary for:
    A) authentication (which SIM card is making the call? are they allowed to?)
    B) logging (who did you call? was it long distance? did you call australia at $2/min?)
    C) seamless handovers between wifi <--> mobile radio

    In EVERY UMA solution (as per UMA specifications, and the whole idea of its architecture) the calls pass through the core mobile network... all "UMA" is essentially doing is allowing you to replace the transportation link to the core mobile network with an unlicensed network link (the internet)

    Please see http://www.umatechnology.org/overview/

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    Does Rogers have to set up the Wi-Fi network, or can you just log onto any unlocked network/networks you have passwords for and us it?

    Cause that would be AWESOME at the U of S cause the are endless GSM coverage deadzones, but there is always Wi-Fi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blainehorner
    Does Rogers have to set up the Wi-Fi network, or can you just log onto any unlocked network/networks you have passwords for and us it?

    Cause that would be AWESOME at the U of S cause the are endless GSM coverage deadzones, but there is always Wi-Fi!
    Like T-Mobile, you should be able to use it with any Wi-Fi access point your phone can connect to.
    And even on random open networks like in a coffee shop... or while in an apartment building

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