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    I won't speculate on anything data related in this thread any more, but I can say that come Feb. 5th, I'm either going to be really happy or really f'n mad.

    My roommate is also concerned about her $5 vision plan on her Touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newman_dcb
    This doesn't really mean anything. As far as I know, Best Buy/FS do not carry the entire Rogers handset lineup as it is.

    The Touch has not been discontinued.
    Its true fs and bb do not carry the full lineup but why would they bring in the touch only to discontinue it 2 months later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point8T
    Its true fs and bb do not carry the full lineup but why would they bring in the touch only to discontinue it 2 months later?
    The Christmas shopping season is over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1Chris
    so when will they potentially start enforcing via IEMI if they do? If they start before the 4th, unlocked phone users could see some hefty unexpected bills.

    Also, if it is IEMI based, as long as your IEMI matches is it still "data is data"?
    Quote Originally Posted by newman_dcb
    I won't speculate on anything data related in this thread any more, but I can say that come Feb. 5th, I'm either going to be really happy or really f'n mad.

    My roommate is also concerned about her $5 vision plan on her Touch.
    I don't see why people currently have previous data plan have to worry about this new unlimited WAP plan will effect on your current any kind of phone you have... It will continue to work as before, because if Rogers auto change your current data plan to this new WAP plan and break your way of using data then they will receive call/complain from thousands of existing customers... don't think Rogers will afford that... plus they haven't send you any email notice about the change, so they still expect your device still work with your current data plan...

    Only for new subscribers who want the new WAP plan will have the only WAP unlimited On-Device Mobile Browing and the IEMI is apply/control for this plan only not for other data plan...

    Quote Originally Posted by RO
    WOw talk about specualtion and people freaking out about facts that aren't facts. Seriously people save your blood pressure and stop panicking about what people are saying when they have no idea what they're talking about. Obviously if they're promoting it as unlimited on device they will be monotoring what you're using one way or another. Also they only automatically upgrade you if there are absolutely no repercussion in doing so. So if this thing doesnt work with forein IMEI's or with certain phones chances are you will get grandfathered into the plan that you have. That means unless you change it they won't remove it. They dont upgrade everything automatically, like value paks with 75 txt messages still have the same amount. So will everyone please stop panicking? I don't want to have to lock this thread because then it'll fall way down the list but I will if people don't start new threads instead of following the darn topic.

    To me, it is safer and more insurance to apply to the current data plan before Feb 5th, so your anykind phone still able to browse the internet... and wait until Feb 5 to see what the unlimited On-Device Mobile Browsing can do, and you want to swich to it or not...

    Otherwise after Feb 5th, you might not able to subscribe to the old cheap data plan (because it will be discontinue) in order to browse the internet on your anykind phone anymore...

    Quote Originally Posted by O_ssie
    As of Feb 5th 2008


    Discontinued Price plans and Promos
    $5 5MB Navigate Plan

    $10 10MB Navigate Plan

    $10 Vision Internet Plan

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    Let's let this discussion rest until we hear something official. Endless speculation and hearsay is becoming a disturbing trend on this forum.

    That being said, I do love a bit of gossip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymouse_87
    Let's let this discussion rest until we hear something official. Endless speculation and hearsay is becoming a disturbing trend on this forum.

    That being said, I do love a bit of gossip!
    I heard that about you! : )

    As an aside, how many of these plans are going to require a three-year sign-up or extension, the way the Vision Plans did? All of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by me815
    I don't see why people currently have previous data plan have to worry about this new unlimited WAP plan will effect on your current any kind of phone you have... It will continue to work as before, because if Rogers auto change your current data plan to this new WAP plan and break your way of using data then they will receive call/complain from thousands of existing customers... don't think Rogers will afford that... plus they haven't send you any email notice about the change, so they still expect your device still work with your current data plan...

    Only for new subscribers who want the new WAP plan will have the only WAP unlimited On-Device Mobile Browing and the IEMI is apply/control for this plan only not for other data plan...
    Very good points, thank you for the reply. Lets just hope this IEMI tracking is smart enough to do this...

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    Yes but here's the thing. The $5 vision plan was ONLY ever supposed to applied to vision devices, NOT WM devices. Obviously through things like HoFo we all know data is data (generally). So in theory Rogers can do what they want, because a plan that was not supposed to be applied to an account in the first place was. It's kind of like the $65/1GB PC plan. Everyone with an iPhone/WM phone that needs an acceptable amount of data without paying $80+ has that, but really, Rogers COULD just do what they want because they are using a PC card plan on a handset.

    They will definitely field complaints, and it really wouldn't be worth their time, I'm simply saying that when it comes to people sort cheating the system a little, Rogers probably has no sympathy.

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    can everyone stop saying IEMI and say it correctly as IMEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackdown
    can everyone stop saying IEMI and say it correctly as IMEI
    Perhaps they could write it instead of "saying" it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackdown
    can everyone stop saying IEMI and say it correctly as IMEI
    But then they can't say it out loud like "Aimee".

    Let's let this discussion rest until we hear something official. Endless speculation and hearsay is becoming a disturbing trend on this forum.
    Most of the respectable heads who posted info here aren't speculating. The thread has moved quite a lot into the right direction from where it started and honestly there isn't really anything else to claim any more. O_ssie has spot on information and we all know I do not falter with what I post .

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    I apologize if this has been mentioned in this thread ...

    Are we talking about this news >>
    http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/0...ian-jaws-drop/

    and does it really apply to WM devices ?

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyriv
    I apologize if this has been mentioned in this thread ...

    Are we talking about this news >>
    http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/0...ian-jaws-drop/

    and does it really apply to WM devices ?

    thx
    That is something else entirely. That deals with PC cards, which in reality, you can use with any phone that isn't a BlackBerry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_ssie
    Just to Follow-up, It is IMEI driven.

    If you bought the phone from Rogers, it is in their database. Whenever you connect to the internet, you IMEI is sent to the Rogers Tower and then fed into the system. Based on your IMEI, the billing system will charge you accordingly

    Example: You have the 5$ unlim on-device data plan and you own a W580i and a HTC Touch.

    When you put your SIM into the w580i, the system recognizes it and doesn't charge you anything extra to access the net. IF you then take the SIM out of the W580i and put it into the HTC Touch, as soon as you try and access the net from that device, it'll send that IMEI for that 'session' and you would be subject to pay-per-use charges (either 5cents/KB or 3cents/KB - not yet released - probably 5cents though)

    If you are using a NON-ROGERS phone, The billing system will not know what phone you are using so it assumes you are using a data device and would also be subject to pay-per-use data charges on the $5 Unlim on-device plan. The WM packages will work for non-rogers phones though
    2 things. 1. If they're only running internal database repaired or swapped phones may not be in there so that could be interesting. 2. The network recognizes my K850- even though it's not official. So if it's based solely on recognition that would also prove interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treatz
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    2 things. 1. If they're only running internal database repaired or swapped phones may not be in there so that could be interesting.
    Very goood point.


    2. The network recognizes my K850- even though it's not official. So if it's based solely on recognition that would also prove interesting
    Hmmm...maybe if it's the same model as a Rogers product you're good to go?? (If the K850 is indeed coming...)
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