You're just confused. It's called a WM data plan because they don't expect anyone to use that much data on a RAZR lol. It's $100 for 1gb data, regardless if you tether your regular phone, WM device, or just use it on the phone itself. It's yours to use however you want.
And one more thing. I'm surprised more people aren't actually somewhat happy at the new 1gb for Blackberry option because we all know how many people had wished the old 1gb would work for true Berry service! Well, now you don't have to bother with Opera mini workarounds and not having true BB services. Also you have full BES and laptop tethering included and maybe take a little comfort in knowing you're paying the same amount as Bell charges for 1gb.
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And one more thing. I'm surprised more people aren't actually somewhat happy at the new 1gb for Blackberry option because we all know how many people had wished the old 1gb would work for true Berry service! Well, now you don't have to bother with Opera mini workarounds and not having true BB services. Also you have full BES and laptop tethering included and maybe take a little comfort in knowing you're paying the same amount as Bell charges for 1gb.
I think the response has been tepid because there's still a huge disparity in terms of cost. Yes, everyone would love 1 GB of data, but that's still a ton. While it might be a reasonable value at $100, it's still $100 per month. People seem to be looking for a mid-range plan, which Rogers has failed to provide in this new pricing push.
If Rogers is willing to give out 1 GB for $100, why not a much more palatable 200 MB for $20? That is the same cost per MB, but a price people are willing to pay and a data bucket people are still likely not to go over unless they tether or stream heavily. Put something like that out, and people will start smiling again.
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I think the response has been tepid because there's still a huge disparity in terms of cost. Yes, everyone would love 1 GB of data, but that's still a ton. While it might be a reasonable value at $100, it's still $100 per month. People seem to be looking for a mid-range plan, which Rogers has failed to provide in this new pricing push.
If Rogers is willing to give out 1 GB for $100, why not a much more palatable 200 MB for $20? That is the same cost per MB, but a price people are willing to pay and a data bucket people are still likely not to go over unless they tether or stream heavily. Put something like that out, and people will start smiling again.
Yes agreed, but I was referring to the heavier users, and also it's just like any other product: the more you buy, the more you save. The smallest amounts of data will always be higher priced per MB which is how all companies will point you towards the biggest plan and put up that sign which says "Best Value!". The 1 GB plan is the supersize fries.
If 200MB was only $20, I would expect 1GB for about $35 or $40.
Either way I'd say it's pretty clear that all the carriers are pretty much the same for heavy users and corporate users alike, and Rogers is in fact much cheaper for true PC Card data here than Bell. For $100 on Rogers you get a whopping 5GB and on Bell you only get 250MB!!
Plus, ONLY Telus is cheaper (but for on-device restricted uses) for personal users. I think if anyone else introduces cheap personal browsing plans for PDA's it will be Bell, not Rogers, but more likely IMO Telus may discontinue their plans before anything happens since nobody has matched them and they can easily charge more....
But let's hope not!
On another note, Verizon has JUST released a new $30 unlimited on-device browsing/email plan for PDA's. It's amazing how far ahead Telus really was with their version!
The only advantage to keeping the now-grandfathered vale packs is no price increases. Rogers seems to enjoy hiking option prices.
Incorrect. Even if you stay on these old plans, you would still be subject price increases. The benefit of the old value packs is the 33% off other features discount... the new plans don't offer that discount...
Incorrect. Even if you stay on these old plans, you would still be subject price increases. The benefit of the old value packs is the 33% off other features discount... the new plans don't offer that discount...
Interesting, and terrible. That means no grandfathering of discontinued VP's? Wow...suddenly I realize how lucky old FidoPro users really are! Plus, Telus options and overbundle minutes, long distance, roaming charges are always grandfathered at the rate when you first sign up, just like the base voice plan. It's pretty shady for Rogers to ONLY protect the base plan which could be only $20, and the customer has $100 of options of which can go up in price ANYTIME. Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. They could raise call display to $25 and you'd have to agree or else pay the ECF and cancel!
It's pretty shady for Rogers to ONLY protect the base plan which could be only $20, and the customer has $100 of options of which can go up in price ANYTIME. Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. They could raise call display to $25 and you'd have to agree or else pay the ECF and cancel!
I also thought that Value Packs were grandfathered, for example last month the $10.00 Value Pack went up to $11.00. Whoever has it, pays the extra buck.
However, one of my lines is on a OLD Rogers plan (that had not been changed since 2001), and voice mail along with caller display have not gone up. I assume old plans are grandfathered, but not the new ones.
I may have missed this earlier but if I call in to add the current $65 for 1 GB plan for my iphone now will I lose this on the 6th? And have to pay $100 for the same amount of data? I have the $10 for 10 MB right now and was hoping Rogers was going to release something with a little more data, not just increase the current 1 GB to $100...
You're just confused. It's called a WM data plan because they don't expect anyone to use that much data on a RAZR lol. It's $100 for 1gb data, regardless if you tether your regular phone, WM device, or just use it on the phone itself. It's yours to use however you want.
And one more thing. I'm surprised more people aren't actually somewhat happy at the new 1gb for Blackberry option because we all know how many people had wished the old 1gb would work for true Berry service! Well, now you don't have to bother with Opera mini workarounds and not having true BB services. Also you have full BES and laptop tethering included and maybe take a little comfort in knowing you're paying the same amount as Bell charges for 1gb.
thank god. but its still expensive lol
i agree that they still need some type of medium usage plan. somewhere in the 30$ range will fit so many users (even if its only 100mb). but they are stubborn to only give high end plans that businesses will foot the bill for (but Ill tall ya, so many businesses are looking to the telus data plan to save money, and rogers will soon feel the bite!)
If Rogers is willing to give out 1 GB for $100, why not a much more palatable 200 MB for $20? That is the same cost per MB, but a price people are willing to pay and a data bucket people are still likely not to go over unless they tether or stream heavily. Put something like that out, and people will start smiling again.
I think Rogers will probably reprice these when the 9000 comes out. The 9000 series release (the first 3G BlackBerry on Rogers, and the first one to put extreme pressure on a total reprice of all BlackBerry plans) is the BIGGIE date to me -- not May 6.
O_Ssie might be withholding information based on the past information. After all, 1GB for $100 actually does one better than the previous "top tier" they were thinking of doing, so it's possible there is a repricing that's being kept secret at the moment, or possibly delayed till 9000 series.
Now, if they don't reprice on the day the BlackBerry 9000 hits Rogers, I think all hell will break loose with people complaining about overpriced 3G data on a 25MB $60 BlackBerry plan or the lack of ability to use 3G data for anything useful on the $15 BlackBerry plan. Dare tether with the 25MB plan on 3G?
Either way, 1GB on EDGE with BlackBerry and/or propel.com compression is pretty much unlimited. I have not broken 125 megabytes even with tethering (I do use propel.com though when I tether).
(flipflash77: Don't go into a debate about compression please, like you did in the other thread. Trimming and lossy compression are the exact same thing, it's simply semantics. RIM and propel both call it compression. Move along, please.)
Either way, 1GB on EDGE with BlackBerry and/or propel.com compression is pretty much unlimited. I have not broken 125 megabytes even with tethering (I do use propel.com though when I tether).
i think that's very tru. and many users will fall into that same range.... so why is rogers not coming out with a plan that fits that need? ppl who use 100mb per month will see the 1g and say, 'price is a little better here, but 1g is way too much for me, cant i get a 100-200mb plan?' and of course there is nothing in that range now.
so again we have an unlim wap only plan for super cheap, and then a super high usage plan for 100$. nothing in between. weird.
When you say writeoff, do you get it back in taxes? You can declare this as a writeoff?
as a writeoff, you use the amount to bring your taxable income level down.
- as a super basic example. you make 100$ per yr and you write off $20 in expenses, you pay tax on 80$.
of course you have to be a business to 'write things off' in this case.
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