*BUZZER SOUND*Originally Posted by ailanchristophr
The economy is GLOBAL now.
If you pay the Canadian price for that Audi, you get pretty much the same car as the Americans do. If you pay the Canadian price for the iPhone plans, you get 1/3 of the 'car' as they do. We're being screwed in more ways than one.
I like how Rogers choose to piss off the Mac fanboys. From experience, they are very vocal about their products. I'm not sure if such opposition were to arise if another usergroup was targetted.
trekkie604 [ Phone Photos ]
Exactly! I have no problem paying Rogers 30-40% more than AT&T charges - I just want comparable service to what AT&T offers.Originally Posted by trek.
I will not pay 30% more for 1/3 of the service.
i would LOVE to see that stand up anywhereOriginally Posted by LittlePud
Wow, I didn't realize how revolted Apple fanboys could get ! The digs links says it all.
On the bright side, Ted Rogers can buy a few new mansions and a bunch of million dollars cars by iraping you
I wont be getting an iPhone until I can use my existing voice plan, and add just a data package on top.
I know... it will never happen, so I guess I'll never get an iPhone!
Too bad since everything else I have is from Apple (Macbook Pro, iPod, AppleTV, Airport Base Station)
Anyone think Ted will cave and just allow a data add-on charge, a-la $20 hiptop plan?
Most people here have worked too hard to get their voice plan packages - especially us City/Country Fido people!
I would hope the same thing...after all, someone like me was pissed that they decided to take away free text messaging to the States...and now these stupid data plans. I just don't know where this will end. I'm just stunned that Fogers has come down to this now! And there is no way in hell I'm giving up my CityFido for the iPhone either!!!
Originally Posted by gladman
maybe that 'boycott' that they are talking about in the other threads (line up with signs etc..etc...) is gonna do it. media coverage will be all over that. Rogers will finally get a real good kick in the pants.
My Plans x2 (Fido): $67 unlim w 2gig & VPk (-$10credits.each) = $57+tax
That IS exactly what IS wrong with the plan, Rogers assume high voice minutes = high data usage. What if I only need 50 mins daytime cause like you said, I'm working. However what makes iPhone appealing, well to me at least, is the internet everywhere you go. It's like cell phone, look at a few years back and now.Originally Posted by ailanchristophr
I know the petition talks about other country because iPhone only have one carrier here in Canada, but your car analogy doesn't work well. You CAN get unlimited internet here in Canada with Telus and now Bell as well if I'm not mistaken for $30/month. The only thing is that they can't carry iPhone.
There's no decent web browser on any of their phones/smartphones that is up to par with mobile safari exclusive to the iPhone. I think the only one that is a contender is Opera 9.5 which you can get by default on the new HTC devices. So still crossing my finger on it being available here in Canada by Telus or Bell. They look to be better and better choice/alternative to the Foger's iPhone.
seconded ...Originally Posted by lxlim
I wouldnt feel so abused if theyd at least let me forge my own plan to my own needs. I know the iphone is a data intensive device and I would probably tend to use (much) more bandwidth on it than any of my previous phones, however, I planned on limiting myself to using personal & open public wi-fi hotspots to do most of my bigger downloading like podcasts, etc.
When they tie the plans togheter like that, it's obvious they are trying to grab the most profit at the expense of their customers. And because they are an [illegal] monopoly, they can jack those prices higher than anywhere else in the world ! THAT's what's ridiculous about it and deserves to be attended, sooner rather than later.
Well, first of all, with MS Exchange integration, 3rd party apps, MobileMe integration and 8 out of 10 businesses with Macs in their organization, I'd say the iPhone could quickly become a serious player in the business market.Originally Posted by ailanchristophr
Now, let's have a look at currently available, comparable services from Fido. Rogers plans are too confusing to bother with. I'll exclude 911, SAF and taxes.
The basic iPhone plan is $60 for 150 minutes, 75 texts, voicemail and 400MB of data. In order for new users to use a different phone, and approach what they are offering for the iPhone, you could get the current $20 Regional plan which is 50 minutes plus 100 bonus minutes with a Fido Agreement, $3 for 50 texts plus $3.75 for an additional 25 texts, $8 for Enhanced Voice Mail, and $7 for unlimited data. That comes to $41.75. So data limits notwithstanding, you are paying an $18.25 premium for the iPhone. Really not that outrageous for a premium device.
However, and in direct answer to your question, people who are used to having and using a good voice plan could be paying a lot more than that difference. I'll use my own plan as an example.
I currently have an Urban Vancouver Incoming plan which is $30 for 400 minutes outgoing any time and UL incoming, plus $9 for VM and Call Display. When I was working for myself, my total outgoing and incoming averaged 750 minutes, with an upper limit of over 1000, mostly during weekdays. Now that I am working for another company my average is about 225.
Assuming I will continue working for another company, I could get by with the basic $60 plan, but to even out the features for comparison I'd have to add to both my current plan, and the iPhone plan. It appears at present to get Call Display on the iPhone you need the iPhone value pack, so lets add $15. That's now $75. To bring my current plan up to par, I'd remove the $9 VM/CD and add the currently offered $20 Value Pack, add $3 for Call Forwarding and $3 for Caller Ring Trax. So now my plan is $56. A $19 premium for the iPhone. Still not bad.
But if I went back to working for myself, averaging 750 minutes with the iPhone would require the $115 plan plus the $15 value pack. That's $130, which is a $74 premium for the iPhone. That IS outrageous compared to what I'm used to paying.
Edit: Even if I was a new subscriber, I could get the $40 Urban plan which is 1000 minutes, add the extras for $26 as per above and still be paying $64 less, or about half of what the iPhone costs.
Last edited by MacDruid; 06-30-2008 at 03:09 AM.
One other issue is that the iPhone itself is really built to work with an unlimited data plan. I have a 2.5G iPhone with no data plan, but even if I'm connected via wifi, it will often (try to) enable Edge automatically if it feels the WiFi signal is a little weak. If I actually had an Edge data plan I would notice that things were moving a little slow and manually turn off Edge and reconnect to WiFi. With 3G, I probably wouldn't notice the switch or a speed drop, and would run up all kinds of unintended data. This unintended automatic switching is one reason I don't have a data plan now.
There is a switch to turn off data roaming, and if you have a hacked phone, a control panel called switcher that in theory, turns off Edge. Neither work, and the phone definitely turns on Edge if you try to do something that requires network access and your Wifi is weak or not available.
So, if you're near your data limit, you are not able to reliably turn off 3G/Edge and keep it off.
Last edited by jwdav; 06-30-2008 at 04:19 AM.
And to think that about 5 years ago I had unlimited GPRS for 50$ with Fido..
I was planning on signing for 3 years and getting an 8gig iphone 3g as long as I only had to add a good data package to my plan..
These are a joke, 150minutes?
It looks like it doesn't even include caller ID...Add that, access fees etc and you're looking at a 75$ bill for 150 day minutes.
At the very least for that price give us the caller ID and unlimited incoming calls. I think a lot of people would've switched from Telus or Bell to Rogers/Fido to hop on the iphone bandwagon if the pricing had been better, but now I think only the stupidest of Apple fanboys will get it. The sad thing is that there's probably a lot of them so Rogers doesn't care that we think their pricing makes no sense.
M4R Ringtones! (Metal gear, Crank, Modem handshake..no songs!) here
I know that this has probably been addressed already, but what sort of retention offers are you guys expecting to get? I've been with Fido for 3 years and my contract is set to expire in September. I would like to use the expiry of my contract to leverage myself to get some sort of retention benefits from Fido. What can I expect?