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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfel
    Uh, no it doesn't. This is what Rogers is offering. Take it, or go elsewhere. It's not like the iPhone is a need for society - just either bend over and take it in the pocket, or don't get the iPhone.
    Yeah your right no one shoudl ever say anything if something is doing them wrong. Rogers will get the picture when these things don`t sell

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    They don't say anywhere that you MUST have an iPhone voice/data plan. Wouldn't it be possible to use the $30/300MB or $50 tiered plan with the iPhone and keep your current voice plan?

    I'm certainly going to investigate this.

    If those are the ONLY options, my 3G device will be the BBerry Bold for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeets
    They don't say anywhere that you MUST have an iPhone voice/data plan. Wouldn't it be possible to use the $30/300MB or $50 tiered plan with the iPhone and keep your current voice plan?

    I'm certainly going to investigate this.

    If those are the ONLY options, my 3G device will be the BBerry Bold for sure.
    that's what i'm tyring to investigate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipse
    We all need to band together and send a generic email to Rogers stating how we feel....I wonder if I can write one up and create a site people can get togehter and follow my lead? Something needs to be done....
    Just grab the first generation iPhone before their prices go up (and they will). You can always use it on a good voice plan and just add the $30/300MB data package. This way you have a fully functional iPhone at a fraction of the price (sans GPS and 3G of course)... I am sure glad I didn't dump my first gen when Apple announced that Rogers would be carrying the 2nd gen, people were selling their unlocked first generation phones as low as $330.

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    I've got Telus' EPP combined with $15 Unlimited 3G Data on my Curve plus a whack of extras thrown in for free. If I was with Rogers I'd have to mortgage my house to afford the same features on GSM.

    CMDA isn't that bad folks, and it is definitely a viable alternative to those who don't wanna get burned by Rogers. Those iPhone plans are absolutely laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark_in_2k
    What about GPS though. Doesn't this use data, or is it like a TomTom? I thought the A-GPS uses data from cell towers as well as satellites to get a more accurate location of where you are.
    I've often wondered: what exactly does one think of when they talk about GPS? All GPS functionality really amounts to is receiving a latitude/longitude of your location from a satellite. Even if the positional information is coming off the internet, that's about 1.5 MB per day, assuming you're requesting the data constantly, every second, all day.

    The only significant data usage with GPS will be what you do with that positional information. For example, if you're following your position on a map, it will have to pull down the image tiles for the map. I'm guessing most people don't need to follow a dot on a map the whole time they're moving, so GPS-enabled maps will likely not take much more data than non-GPS enabled maps. Directions (sans map) will require very little additional data, because they just amount to short chunks of text.

    Aside from finding my current (static) position on a map, the only uses I think I'd have for GPS would be to geolocate photos or to keep a trace of where I've travelled. Neither of these require any data from the internet at all (aside from possible cellular or WiFi locational information).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweebert
    I've often wondered: what exactly does one think of when they talk about GPS? All GPS functionality really amounts to is receiving a latitude/longitude of your location from a satellite. Even if the positional information is coming off the internet, that's about 1.5 MB per day, assuming you're requesting the data constantly, every second, all day.

    The only significant data usage with GPS will be what you do with that positional information. For example, if you're following your position on a map, it will have to pull down the image tiles for the map. I'm guessing most people don't need to follow a dot on a map the whole time they're moving, so GPS-enabled maps will likely not take much more data than non-GPS enabled maps. Directions (sans map) will require very little additional data, because they just amount to short chunks of text.

    Aside from finding my current (static) position on a map, the only uses I think I'd have for GPS would be to geolocate photos or to keep a trace of where I've travelled. Neither of these require any data from the internet at all (aside from possible cellular or WiFi locational information).
    The actual maps are through Google Maps... Google Maps requires data access.

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    $100 a month for web browsing on a phone. I will pass. I have the 1st gen iPhone w/ UL Data. It was great to have when I need to check one or two things while away from a PC. It's not worth $3 a day at all. With the 3 yr commitment, it means by the time your contracts is up, you are already behind 2 generation of iPhones.

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    iphone plans from endgaget article


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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor01
    Just grab the first generation iPhone before their prices go up (and they will). You can always use it on a good voice plan and just add the $30/300MB data package. This way you have a fully functional iPhone at a fraction of the price (sans GPS and 3G of course)... I am sure glad I didn't dump my first gen when Apple announced that Rogers would be carrying the 2nd gen, people were selling their unlocked first generation phones as low as $330.
    yep, I sold mine and then realised 2 days later that it was a mistake, so I bought another pretty much for the same price I sold for straight away.. I was lucky I guess.
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    Having the details of your phone plan in your .signature is so lame

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweebert
    I've often wondered: what exactly does one think of when they talk about GPS? All GPS functionality really amounts to is receiving a latitude/longitude of your location from a satellite. Even if the positional information is coming off the internet, that's about 1.5 MB per day, assuming you're requesting the data constantly, every second, all day.

    The only significant data usage with GPS will be what you do with that positional information. For example, if you're following your position on a map, it will have to pull down the image tiles for the map. I'm guessing most people don't need to follow a dot on a map the whole time they're moving, so GPS-enabled maps will likely not take much more data than non-GPS enabled maps. Directions (sans map) will require very little additional data, because they just amount to short chunks of text.

    Aside from finding my current (static) position on a map, the only uses I think I'd have for GPS would be to geolocate photos or to keep a trace of where I've travelled. Neither of these require any data from the internet at all (aside from possible cellular or WiFi locational information).
    The problem is; is that the map it's showing your location on is Google Maps - which has to be downloaded over the air whenever you check it... When you scroll the map over, you are downloading more data... When you switch to satellite view - you are downloading more data...

    From my 1st gen iPhone use, Google Maps sucks down the data... This is not a good day for Canadian wireless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweebert
    I've often wondered: what exactly does one think of when they talk about GPS? All GPS functionality really amounts to is receiving a latitude/longitude of your location from a satellite. Even if the positional information is coming off the internet, that's about 1.5 MB per day, assuming you're requesting the data constantly, every second, all day.

    The only significant data usage with GPS will be what you do with that positional information. For example, if you're following your position on a map, it will have to pull down the image tiles for the map. I'm guessing most people don't need to follow a dot on a map the whole time they're moving, so GPS-enabled maps will likely not take much more data than non-GPS enabled maps. Directions (sans map) will require very little additional data, because they just amount to short chunks of text.

    Aside from finding my current (static) position on a map, the only uses I think I'd have for GPS would be to geolocate photos or to keep a trace of where I've travelled. Neither of these require any data from the internet at all (aside from possible cellular or WiFi locational information).
    GPS technology itself does not use any data. You only use data if you have to continuously load maps from a server (like Google Maps).

    Stand alone GPS units have all of the maps saved to the hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandonHum
    I normally used my G1 iPhone with EDGE in Barrhaven, Nepean and mostly downtown core. It was plain slow! The DSL Reports speed test for mobile devices usually yielded results in the 90-160kbps range.
    Are you Gordie's brother?

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    It's good to see that my lack of faith in Rogers was rewarded.

    Here are the biggest jokes of these "plans":

    -evening calling at 9 PM! Are they for real?
    -no caller ID included on a phone whose biggest feature is a 3.5" screen?
    - iPhone Value Packs that tack on a bunch of garbage (who wants Caller Ring Trax™ anyway?) in order to justify the price of getting caller ID which should have been included in the first place and costs NOTHING to provide
    -Additional Data: 50˘ per MB for the first 60 MB, I can't believe Rogers is going to risk ruining their iPhone positive press by people getting ridiculous overage bill

    And of course the kicker...no unlimited data option.

    I can't believe Apple agree to this.

    On the bright side, my 2G iPhone just skyrocketed in value though I may decide to keep it now.

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    I really like how they have the Value Pack for $20. That's only $10 less than my whole plan. I'm currently with Bell, which of course has problems just like all providers, but I have a fantastic plan. It has 200 daytime minutes, unlimited evenings/weekends starting at 6, 100 long distance minutes, call display, voicemail and unlimited mobile browser, all for the low, low price of $30 including the 911 and system access fee. After taxes, it's around $34 / month. As much as I would like to pick up an iPhone, there is no way in hell I'm going to triple my phone bill every month for it. It's interesting even to see the huge discrepancy between Rogers corporate pricing for other handsets, and this. If I was to switch to Rogers through work, I could get 200 daytime minutes, unlimited evenings/weekends starting at 6, call display, and voicemail for $23 + SAF and 911.

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