National T-Mobile 3G launch Oct. 1st?

[RogerPodacter]

there is no roaming on ATT 3G. the few posts about 3G showing up on their tmobile phone were because tmobile was temporarily testing or something. even in areas where tmobile has no 3G coverage, there wont be any roaming on ATT 3G. i doubt there EVER will be 3G roaming between the 2 companies. and there CERNTAINLY wont be any roaming in the immediate future. reason i say this is because there are no quadband 3G phones in existence now, or the foreseeable future. all manufacturers upcoming phone announcements seem to classify the different carrier versions as separate versions with individualized 3G bands, rather than all bands in one phone. so no 3g roaming.

[TimoSuomi]

there is no roaming on ATT 3G. the few posts about 3G showing up on their tmobile phone were because tmobile was temporarily testing or something. even in areas where tmobile has no 3G coverage, there wont be any roaming on ATT 3G. i doubt there EVER will be 3G roaming between the 2 companies. and there CERNTAINLY wont be any roaming in the immediate future. reason i say this is because there are no quadband 3G phones in existence now, or the foreseeable future. all manufacturers upcoming phone announcements seem to classify the different carrier versions as separate versions with individualized 3G bands, rather than all bands in one phone. so no 3g roaming.

That was not what I was talking about at all. There was a member who was supposedly able to force his phone to roam on an AT&T 3g network for a time. I believe he was in the Chicago area. This was long before the posts discussing T-Mo testing 3g on the 1900 band. This topic of 3g roaming has gone way off track. The only reason I mentioned this in the first place was as anecdotal evidence that 3g sim cards do not exist. Rather, all sim cards can use any type of network.

[gregsmith59]

...The only reason I mentioned this in the first place was as anecdotal evidence that 3g sim cards do not exist. Rather, all sim cards can use any type of network.

AT&T actually had to reissue SIM cards to customers to enable 3G access. Their old SIMs wouldn't work on 3G, but the newer ones do. That was when they started putting the 3G logo on their SIMs.

Perhaps T-Mobile SIMs do not have the limitation of older AT&T/Cingular SIMs.

[jeffro01]

are you sure about that, I could swear that the whole 3G logo sim was pure marketing and other than being 64K for their EONS service the sims were no different from their previous ones.

Jeff

[TimoSuomi]

are you sure about that, I could swear that the whole 3G logo sim was pure marketing and other than being 64K for their EONS service the sims were no different from their previous ones.

Jeff

This is what I read a long time back. Regardless, the current T-Mobile sims work fine with 3g. How else would members like ThorBlazeDragon be able to use the 3g network in NY without upgrading sims?

[gregsmith59]

are you sure about that, I could swear that the whole 3G logo sim was pure marketing and other than being 64K for their EONS service the sims were no different from their previous ones.

I think it involved something called the UICC. Basically I think it needed an extra identifier or logic to be able to authenticate to a UMTS network.

I'm sure others will soon chime in on the truth of this; I don't have a 3G phone myself.

I imagine T-Mobile had the foresight to include that in their SIMs long ago.

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UICC

[Scottish Skyedance]

This is what I read a long time back. Regardless, the current T-Mobile sims work fine with 3g. How else would members like ThorBlazeDragon be able to use the 3g network in NY without upgrading sims?

the SIM I used was "Stick Together" one, the most recent
I replace frequently because it gets worn out fast

[CA]

As far as i know, Baltimore is different from the DC market. I'm not sure how far it goes up but i'd say to columbia west to frederick, south to woodbridge and east to annapolis and all that.

Sprint will launch it's WiMax in the Baltimore market i think it said. They mentioned the DC market separately.

Thanks, I just thought I remembered that one of the carriers did consolidate the two areas into one market. If it is TMO I could can my prepay(TMO) and get in on some of the 3G action.

My theory is that it may be cheaper than at&t, but more importantly less oversold. At least until contracts expire or some kind of new data hungry(Google phone) device makes the seen.

It looks like Sprint will go WiMAX in both markets, and that's great, but phones with WiMAX aren't in the near future. I define the future as the length of a contract and/or the life of a device.

[Harley4point6L]

you still can get HSDPA speed tethering with the SE phones
I read that T-Mobile will utilize 2 or more T1s for increasing voice and data traffic

t1 is only 1.5mbps how the hell could they get 7.2mbps off of 3mbps. damn tmobile technology must be insane!

i hope what you're saying isn't true

[Scottish Skyedance]

Wirelessly posted (HP 211 and nokia 6263: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.7))

you still can get HSDPA speed tethering with the SE phones
I read that T-Mobile will utilize 2 or more T1s for increasing voice and data traffic

t1 is only 1.5mbps how the hell could they get 7.2mbps off of 3mbps. damn tmobile technology must be insane!

i hope what you're saying isn't true

pricewise
T3 line is a lot more expensive
you should feel lucky you get 1Mbps most of the time with ANY carrier

[jmellars]

I think it's true. The service here has been acting weird for a while. Duplicate text messages being sent out, calls not going through the first time, etc.

Yeah, same here.

I've read some pretty definite sounding articles too...unfortunately, I can't remember where the heck I read them...but they were trust-worthy enough to make me believe them.

[arsalan19872000]

Hopefully the 3G rollout in socal is better than ATT's 3G roll out. Hopefully we have 3G in more areas than ATT.

[jamssx]

Talking about ATT's 3G coverage don't know if anyone saw this. Also don't know why I find it so funny...

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1983&tag=nl.e550

[gregsmith59]

Talking about ATT's 3G coverage don't know if anyone saw this. Also don't know why I find it so funny...

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1983&tag=nl.e550

It's funny/sad. A lot of people probably did their homework, mixed with a little wishful thinking, and were unaware how bogus AT&T's coverage maps can be.

Unfortunately, AT&T might not get the feedback they deserve (returned phones) since many of these folks will be the iphone groupies who can't let go.

[CA]

Talking about ATT's 3G coverage don't know if anyone saw this. Also don't know why I find it so funny...

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1983&tag=nl.e550

If I posted that?

Update: After a lengthy phone call with AT&T technical support they told me that they’re looking into the problem with the 3G coverage in my area. I had one small glimmer of hope after the rep suggested a soft reset of my iPhone (hold the sleep and home buttons until the phone powers off). After doing this I briefly saw the 3G icon light up on my phone (in my back yard) but it was gone 30 seconds later, never to return. Needless to say, I’m severely disappointed given the “full” 3G coverage that AT&T promised in my area. The AT&T coverage viewer borders on fraud.

Accounting 101: Out of the millions supposedly sold(1 million on the first day in all the world not US) set aside the ones that activation got got in the US, and subtract the 3G areas that aren't 3G areas and those in over sold capacity areas and you end up with "The old ATTW".

Stephen Colbert explains AT&T

http://www.glumbert.com/media/att