W760a and GPS ?????

[eaglebqh]

I downloaded Google Maps and when accessing the application I keep getting multiple messages of "Allow Application to Send To the Internet?" (Yes / No). That's aggravating as **** and on another thread I saw a couple of solutions - neither of which can I get to work for me.

Then I saw another thread that indicated "Go Yahoo" maps would work with the W760 GPS. So I downloaded Go Yahoo several times - and each time the download completes satisfactorily - I get a message "Please Wait" - and then I get another message "Operation Failed".

If anyone has a suggestion or "fix" so that I can get either of the above issues resolved I really appreciate it ...

Thnx

[chathut]

first you have to clearly identify that the difference between google maps and GPS. GPS is a hardware feature of your phone and google maps is a application for watch maps and satellite pics. google maps works in many SE phones. but you have to download the exactly matching app. for your phone. then in settings you have to give a working internet profile for java applications. then when running it, select "yes" (allow internet)

[Moe3754]

I will bet it has to do with AT&T not wanting any other map software to work on that phone except their crap navagation service that you have to pay for because my W760i came with Google maps already loaded on the phone and it works great,so before you get pissed at SE I would look at friggin AT&T and their crap firmware!!!!And that is why I always spend the extra and purchased unbranded and unlocked phones,not having to mess with crap carrier firmware that cripples phones!!!!

[eaglebqh]

I appreciate the input.

"Chathut" - I understand the difference between GPS hardware and Google Maps software. But due to the activity on this subject on some other threads I was hoping that perhaps someone might have stumbled on a work-around in the past few weeks. In summary - even by identifying Google Maps as a "trusted" source on the phone we still have the issue.

"Moe3754" - I'm not ticked off at SE. I agree that it is probably an issue with ATT. However, the GPS location functionality (i.e., when you're driving it keeps up with you) works fine with my Nokia 6650 and N75. My question in this specific area was hopefully someone could provide a hint as to why the download of Go Yahoo worked up to a point then kept dying on this phone, since I still have over 17M memory available and it's a 769K application.

[Moe3754]

I have never used Yahoo and I only use the Phone GPS when on foot I use my Garmin in my car,I only wish someone could get Garmin Mobile XT to work on SE phones because when I had my N95's that is what I used and there was nothing better than that for the phone GPS!!!It even tracked great in the car because I tried it once when my wife was driving and it was right with my Garmin Nuvi 880.And it even had voice guidence in it!!!

[mbkatt]

It's the AT&T branded firmware that causes you the problems...

If you unbrand the W760a, then you will have access to the applications internet settings that make it so you'll only have to grant access to the internet for each app once. I had the same problem with Opera, Google Maps and every other app that I installed on the blasted thing. ATT removed the option to grant Trusted access to 3rd part apps.

Also, the unbranded firmware comes with Google Maps installed, and it works just fine with the GPS in the phone. It's not perfect, though, and you migt have to make a couple tweaks (you can find them in the SE modding forum) to clear up a couple things that can drive you crazy... but it's all doable.

Also, if you decide to unbrand, do not pay anyone to do it, there are several threads that discuss how to do it yourself for free.

Good luck!

[eaglebqh]

Thnx MBKATT.

I unbranded my N75 which wasn't that big a deal, but I've looked at a couple of the threads regarding debranding this thing and it looks a little "iffy".

Besides that this afternoon I used SE's Update Service Software to see if I had the latest version on the 760 and I think I bricked it. It said new version available - took 15-20 minutes to download - got 30% of the way through updating and received an error message "Update Failed". Have tried several times since then and continue to receive the same message. Current result is the phone is DEAD !!!

[Paco]

Any chance the battery is dead? That can sometimes cause an update to fail. If you plug it in to the wall charger, do you get any indication it is charging? if not, do you know anyone with a W760 you can borrow to charge your battery to confirm?

Thnx MBKATT.

I unbranded my N75 which wasn't that big a deal, but I've looked at a couple of the threads regarding debranding this thing and it looks a little "iffy".

Besides that this afternoon I used SE's Update Service Software to see if I had the latest version on the 760 and I think I bricked it. It said new version available - took 15-20 minutes to download - got 30% of the way through updating and received an error message "Update Failed". Have tried several times since then and continue to receive the same message. Current result is the phone is DEAD !!!

[s3ct0r3]

Actually guys, it's both AT&T and Google!

The google maps packaged with the w760i / debranded w760a is actually a crappier, slower, older version made specifically for that phone (probably for that GPS chip). Google states on their website that only certain phones can harness the GPS capabilities in the new GoogleMaps java app. Unfortunately, only WM Sony phones can use it.

The YahooGo! App refuses to be installed on the branded firmware because, my guess, is that AT&T disabled the installation of any app that's signed for GPS usages. It even says so under the information menu.


That's what I think. Until google releases a universal application that supports the w760i/branded, then and only then can we tell if AT&T's to blame. But hell, I'm right with you agreeing that AT&T probably already took preventative measures to save their revenue.

Jesus, is that Verizon I smell? Strange, I could have sworn I left them. Oh well, it must be something else ...

[newtype]

Actually guys, it's both AT&T and Google!

The google maps packaged with the w760i / debranded w760a is actually a crappier, slower, older version made specifically for that phone (probably for that GPS chip). Google states on their website that only certain phones can harness the GPS capabilities in the new GoogleMaps java app. Unfortunately, only WM Sony phones can use it.

The YahooGo! App refuses to be installed on the branded firmware because, my guess, is that AT&T disabled the installation of any app that's signed for GPS usages. It even says so under the information menu.


That's what I think. Until google releases a universal application that supports the w760i/branded, then and only then can we tell if AT&T's to blame. But hell, I'm right with you agreeing that AT&T probably already took preventative measures to save their revenue.

Jesus, is that Verizon I smell? Strange, I could have sworn I left them. Oh well, it must be something else ...

...they are slowly going that way. They are even trying to make the handsets have a universal UI. Next we will have them cripple BT and WiFi whenever possible

[junqneto]

Did any of you guys tried the MGMaps App? For me that works fine and you can download the Maps from Google to use offline, so you don't need Internet Online connection to see the maps. The cons are that you can't use the search ou directions features, but that isn't what I use it for.

If someone is interested, have a look in their website:
http://www.mgmaps.com/

Cheers!

[FlawedLegacy]

I hope I don't have these problems... my W760 should be here Friday

[Moe3754]

I hope I don't have these problems... my W760 should be here Friday

The W760i that I had was loaded with google maps from the factory but it was a old version so I tried to download the latest version to the phone and install it to see if it would upgrade,and just as I was afraid of it will not do it,so you are stuck with old version of google maps,so I sold mine on e-bay and have my K850i listed and am going back to Nokia where I can use Garmin Mobile XT on my phones!!!!Ordered my N85 just a few minutes ago,I like SE but they have to many things left out of their phones that I was used to with Nokia.

[FlawedLegacy]

well I havn't had a Nokia since the early 90's -the pos that EVERYONE had at first... so I don't have any comparison. My W760 should be here today

[Moe3754]

well I havn't had a Nokia since the early 90's -the pos that EVERYONE had at first... so I don't have any comparison. My W760 should be here today

I hope it goes well and you enjoy your new phone,I thought I could go without Wifi on my 760 and 850 but in my house the 3G kind of sucks and I do not like standing next to a window to use 3G to get on the net and with Nokia I just connect to my wifi network in the house and it is great,plus as said before I like Garmin software for my GPS and Garmin will probably never support the GPS in the SE except for the X1 since it is windows and can use SD memory cards.Other than that SE makes a great phone but they need to add Wifi to their phones for people that have bad cell coverage!!