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    Just Ordered the Data Stick, Here Is Some Info

    I just called TMO and ordered the DATA Stick. Now, I will not be spending $59.99 a month for DATA. I also knew that being the DATA Stick is new and just became available, if there was going to be any loopholes, now would be the time to jump. And I believe I am very happy I did.

    My story.
    I just called and got the Stick at $49.99 for a Two Year Contract extension. Here is the Kicker. On a GrandFathered $19.99 5MB Smartphone Plan.

    I was told, at the end and not recorded ( in fact after I did the recording agreeing to the 2 yr Extension and then the recording ending and the CSR returning to the phone) that when I get the DATA Stick delivered I will need to call in and let them know which of my lines I would like to place the $59.99 Data Plan on. I asked if I was making that decision now and was that mandatory? He stated that I was not making a decision now, but It would not work unless there was a DATA Plan.

    So, as far as I am concerned, I do not see them prohibiting this from connecting and moving DATA just because you do not have the $59.99 Plan. The only thing they could do, and it is possible but not likely as I see it, would be to tie IMEIs into the system and not allow them to work unless the Billing System has the $59.99 Web Connect Plan.

    So, I will have the DATA Stick in a few days and the matter will soon be known, will I drop a exisitng T-MOBILE SIM with Unlimited DATA on the plan, into the DATA Stick and will it work? I will be surprised if it doesn't. The only hassle will be if down the road they put the clamp down but that is a gamble I will take. And if it doesn't work now, I have 14 Days to cancel. But the bigger deal was to get the Upgrade Price on a $19.99 a month plan, as if I recall, Upgrades require a minimum of $29.99 a month Rate Plan. (BTW, I will never get rid of $19.99 Smartphone Plan that includeds 5 MB of Internet Access , .20 a minute anytime voice calls but with My FAVES Unlimited Add On, Blackberry Voice Add On (aka Feature Enabler) and Unlimited TZONES anyway, so the upgrade is a moot point )

    I will keep ya posted.

    If you are thinking about getting the "STICK" do it now. I do not see them letting these go out the door as Upgrades on a regular phone plan for long (if at all I may have just got lucky). I think that is where the Control will really come in. You will need to buy the DATA Stick and the WEB Connect Plan at the same time. But, we shall see.

    EDIT: One more thing. Towards the end of the call, I asked my new "buddy: if "Off The Record" he had heard if the DATA Plan was mandatory and if you did not get it, would the card fail to operate. His reply, " I have heard nothing along those lines, just that it needs the $59.99 plan." To me
    "needs the $59.99 plan" means thats what it "should be" sold with. Let us hope I am right.
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    let's see will it work with $40 Total Internet plain plan

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    Latest update I read is that it will not work on any other plan then the 59.99. Total internet users will be converted over the the 59.99 plan with a 1 time $10 credit to their bill.

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    T-Mobile's new data plans really blow. They should charge $35 for the same 10GB as the smartphone plans.

    You can get a SE TM506 with $30 voice plan, $25 unlimited (10GB) data/400SMS, and still be ahead......

    Way to !@#$% up again T-Mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy78
    Latest update I read is that it will not work on any other plan then the 59.99. Total internet users will be converted over the the 59.99 plan with a 1 time $10 credit to their bill.
    I am thinking that the only way that they can clamp this down, besides the obvious IMEI block, would be to utilize the fact that this device has it's own Connection Manager Software internally. Part of the marketing hype on the unit is that because the Connection Manager Software is embedded on the chip internally could cause an issue. But, I have yet to see a USB or PC Card Modem to date, that cannot also be configured within Windows XP or VISTA to act as its own Modem and can be configured within Windows itself. Also, as a point of interest, the currentkly available Tmobile Connection Manager Software lists the DATA Stick as an available device. That tells me that if they have made the Tmobile Comnnection Manager Software so that it can be downloaded and installed for the DATA Stick, then evidently it is able to be configured by using it and that will solve that issue. In that case it just appears to me that the Software is loaded onto the DATA Stick for convenience of installation and is not what is going to actually control the Stiock internally. ( Hope that makes sense)

    So I guess I can talk and conject all I want, but the proof will be in the puddin' when I get it in my hands.

    BTW, here is the verbiage at the bottom of the DATA Stick section on Tmo website:


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    I would hope the following information would prove useful and helpful to many, based on personal experience:

    You can purchase the Hua-Wei UMG 181 Laptop Sticks with the only requirement being a contract extension - one year ($100) or two years ($50). Nothing else.

    The Laptop stick DOES NOT have a built-in Wi-Fi radio (compare with GC-89 card, for instance). However, the T-Mobile Connection Manager will look for, and manage whatever Wi-Fi card you have in the laptop.

    Only thing is: If you do NOT have the webConnect ($59) dedicated line account, you will not be allowed to connect using the epc APN.

    If you have a VPN/Total Internet on your account, you can use the internet3 APN. It connects at 7.2 Mbps (although I have averaged about 649 Kbps in the NYC metro area).

    If you do not have a VPN/Total Internet provisioned on your account, you can use the internet2 APN. Connection speed is the same.

    I have tried and succeeded to connect with various SIMs on various accounts: VPN/Total Internet, non-VPN/Total Internet, BB on BIS, BB on BES. I do not have a way to test T-Zones only accounts or Sidekick or any of the other non-data account types.

    Let me also add that the SonyEricsson Connection Manager that came with my P990i is also able to manage the Laptop stick (with or without the T-Mobile Connection Manager running).

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    the key question is: is it possible to get modem and/or generic connection manager?
    if so, is the connection manager able to use with ANY GSM carrier?
    if both are "yes", it should be OK even with $40 Total Internet (use internet2 APN)

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    You must have $59.00 data plan

    i received the T Mobile 3G data card today. Below is the speed test using the card in NYC. I tried using the sim card from my T mobile dash ($19.99 data plan) and while it registered and connected to the network, it was not broadcasting any data. Since I already have an unlocked Option GT 307 card without data restrictions, I will be sending back the data card to T Mobile next week. I ordered it for testing only.
    For those with Vista operating system, the installation for the connection manager does not launch automatically. The installation software from the data card is located in a drive under computer.
    I will provide more information with further testing later today.

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/438410498.png

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    I'm guessing here since I haven't had a chance to research and test these:
    Since the SE Connection Manager is able to manage this UMG-181, then it's safe to say that any generic connection manager should be able to manage it. The number dialed, the APN, and other settings are the same.
    As for generic modem driver - I would think this might not work. Or, it it does, the speed may be limited. I think that there must be a way to get a modem driver that will take advantage of any specific features on the laptop stick.
    Overall, I think there are plenty of workarounds we can utilize.

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    Thanks to all that have provided such quick and informative news. I was hoping we would have a few "in the know" types who would get the Stick relatively quick and give us this kind of info, but this is better then expected. And makes my wait a bit less stressful!

    So it appears that we will be OK. I can only hope that bouyark's initial connection was to the EPC APN and that would explain why he connected without DATA throughput and also confirm exactly what cyberlord experienced.

    @bouyark
    When you get a chance to do further testing, the main question will be as to what APN you are connecting to without the DATA throughput. If you get time that would be interesting to know.

    On a different note, they need to talk to whomever is writing up their ad copy. They are very unclear or better yet, misleading, regarding the STICK having WiFi. While I did not believe the DATA Stick had WiFi, the verbiage could easily lead one to believe that the Stick does itself have WiFi capability. I can assure you, if that is not fixed there will be stories popping up in the forums, although most any relatively new laptops or netbooks will likely already have WiFi built-in.
    Last edited by Wireless; 03-27-2009 at 01:57 PM.

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    Just thought it'd be more helpful to post the speedtest results here. This was done using a VPN/Total Internet account with internet3 APN settings.


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    I see that
    the speed isn't better with the data stick
    too disappointed.....

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    Apn

    Quote Originally Posted by Wireless
    Thanks to all that have provided such quick and informative news. I was hoping we would have a few "in the know" types who would get the Stick relatively quick and give us this kind of info, but this is better then expected. And makes my wait a bit less stressful!

    So it appears that we will be OK. I can only hope that bouyark's initial connection was to the EPC APN and that would explain why he connected without DATA throughput and also confirm exactly what cyberlord experienced.

    @bouyark
    When you get a chance to do further testing, the main question will be as to what APN you are connecting to without the DATA throughput. If you get time that would be interesting to know.

    On a different note, they need to talk to whomever is writing up their ad copy. They are very unclear or better yet, misleading, regarding the STICK having WiFi. While I did not believe the DATA Stick had WiFi, the verbiage could easily lead one to believe that the Stick does itself have WiFi capability. I can assure you, if that is not fixed there will be stories popping up in the forums, although most any relatively new laptops or netbooks will likely already have WiFi built-in.
    Wireless:

    My APN connection without the data throughput is EPC. I am at work at the moment but will conduct further testing once I get home later.
    My initial impression about the card is excellent. It passes the pocketable test (Fits into my shirt pocket), the connection is stable and the speed is more than adequate to stream slingbox, browse the web and steam live web cameras all at the same time without any buffering. If only the data plan was lower and the cap was higher, I would keep the card. If someone can provide me with a connection manager other than the one from T Mobile and what I should do, I would be happy to test it later tonight.

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    I was able to set up a profile for the WAP APN (wap.voicestream.com) and tested it. The result is about the same as the internet3 and internet2 APNs. See below:

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/438707581.png



    The only APN I have not been able to test so far is the EPC APN. Don't know if the APN provides any significant difference is connectivity and/or speed. However, the other APNs that I have been able to use seem bearable. As "Bouyark" says above, initial impressions are excellent. The speed is more than adequate for basic online activities.

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    Here's another speed test using the internet3 APN. Thought I'd test it again, at about the same time as I did the WAP APN, to see what effect noise and traffic reduction might have, as compared with the earlier tests which were done during the peak periods of the the day.

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/438713590.png


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