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    Quote Originally Posted by metallicpoet
    I feel like playing the guessing game. Do you live in Las Vegas?
    No. But I'm not saying which city for a good reason other than privacy. I'm trying to head off the counterargument that my city has some idiosyncrasy which completely invalidates every one of my observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getupkid86
    Haha either Nevada or Montana.
    Billings and Helena are the biggest cities in Montana, and I doubt either one would be the 7th largest in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metallicpoet
    I feel like playing the guessing game. Do you live in Las Vegas?
    I doubt it - Las Vegas is #28.

    Churner's hint should be all the SPUR you need to determine his location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churner
    No. But I'm not saying which city for a good reason other than privacy. I'm trying to head off the counterargument that my city has some idiosyncrasy which completely invalidates every one of my observation.
    Sorry, you're busted. You live in San Antonio, Texas. You already said you live in the 7th most populated city in the US.

    "Rank ↓ City ↓ State ↓ Population ↓ Density (per mi2) ↓
    1 New York Cityd[›] New York &0000000008310212.0000008,310,212 26,403.8
    2 Los Angeles California &0000000003834340.0000003,834,340 7,876.4
    3 Chicago Illinois &0000000002836658.0000002,836,658 12,752.2
    4 Houston Texas &0000000002208180.0000002,208,180 3,371.8
    5 Phoenix Arizona &0000000001552259.0000001,552,259 2,781.7
    6 Philadelphia Pennsylvania &0000000001449634.0000001,449,634 11,232.8
    7 San Antonio Texas &0000000001328984.0000001,328,984 2,808.3"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_population

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    Hahaha, good research!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churner
    Speaking of not providing evidence... Despite the many, many rants you've posted here about the woeful inadequacies of this forum's preferred wireless provider, you've never once shared with us what zip codes you want coverage in so that anyone could look up the population density and terrain or the official coverage map.

    Here's what I know about coverage in my part of the US:

    I live in the nation's 7th largest city, through which travels one of the very busiest interstate highways. VM's CDMA has both the city and that interstate covered like a blanket.

    My city has another much less-traveled interstate that heads in a direction where population densities are very low. I lose CDMA coverage about 100 miles out of the city on that interstate in that direction. If I lived out there, I just accept that it wouldn't be feasible to have VM as my wireless provider.

    My state also has one of the nation's least-populated counties. This is an area with <5 people per square mile. If I took my phone there, I would not expect to have coverage.
    And I guess throwing out the zip code card if to just steer away the subject but i'll play along. I'm in the SoCal area which is heavily populated and still the coverage is garbage. Even as I go to San Francisco and Sacramento area both heavily populated areas. Happy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by codenamextreme
    And I guess throwing out the zip code card if to just steer away the subject but i'll play along. I'm in the SoCal area which is heavily populated and still the coverage is garbage. Even as I go to San Francisco and Sacramento area both heavily populated areas. Happy now.
    More puzzled than happy. Obviously, it's not density that's the issue.

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    Q: Do all VM plans include tax? I am assuming so but would like it confirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extraordinary
    Q: Do all VM plans include tax? I am assuming so but would like it confirmed.
    I don't know about the monthly plans. I buy the cards, and I only pay state sales tax on them (assuming I don't buy them from cheapphonecards.com or one of the other online discount card retailers). But with the pay-as-you-go plans, they don't charge those e911 fees or anything like that, just sales tax on the price of the card depending on your location.
    I guess I don't know the right people, because I can't get away with anything around here... Rest assured, though, I will never maliciously properly quote anybody again!

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    My mother has the 18 cents a minute plan that came out before the 20 cents a minute plan. I looked on VM website and I don't see anything about paying for the minute anymore, only the rollover minute plans and monthly plans. Did VM stop offering the pay by the minute plans? If they have it's not good for people that rarely use their phone.

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    The 20¢ a minute plan is still there, though it is not being promoted very strongly:

    http://www.virginmobileusa.com/rates/minute.do

    On that page it states "CHOOSE A 30-DAY MINUTE PACK OR GO WITH OUR 20¢/MINUTE BASIC RATE."

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    If you go to Help and Service. Look under plans. There will be lots of obsolete plans like your 18 cents a minute rate that are no longer being newly activated.
    The basic default rates right now for non plan usage is 20 cents a minute for talk, 15 cents per text and 1.50 per meg of data plus 15 cents on Virgin XL to access your browser to begin with bringing it to $1.65 minimum. You get charged 15 cents every time you access XL to get to the browser if you don't have plan or are on the cheapest 5 meg $5 datapack plan. Some of the rates are obsolete . They claim texts are a dime each, but that's not true anymore.
    Picture, video, instant messaging and email varies from a dime to 25 cents each to send and receive. A text plan and a data plan are way better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quagmire
    The 20¢ a minute plan is still there, though it is not being promoted very strongly:
    Haha they are trying to become a higher ARPU Net10. Pretty funny. Dime a minute or less. $20/mo or more.

    There are plenty of choices for people who want/need to spend that month. I think this is going to go over like a lead balloon. Net10 could sustain it because they have the power of multiple GSM networks. VM using only stinking Sprint? I don't think so. Get far more and much better for your $20 on Page Plus, doh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quagmire
    The 20¢ a minute plan is still there, though it is not being promoted very strongly:

    http://www.virginmobileusa.com/rates/minute.do

    On that page it states "CHOOSE A 30-DAY MINUTE PACK OR GO WITH OUR 20¢/MINUTE BASIC RATE."

    Oh okay i see it. They really have hidden it in there on the webpage huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by codenamextreme
    So if Boost Unlimited CDMA can offer roaming for additional $5 why cant VM? The same can be said with Helio.
    First off, some of that roaming (outside of your home calling area) may in fact be on Sprint's native CDMA network. There is no cost associated there.

    They could offer it but it would cost them too much money I think.
    It might also require a dual band phone and for VM to negotiate roaming rates with the big VZ

    Maybe a bundle of 200 minutes for 5.00 or something would work for those that need it. It would add some additional "back office" expenses like accounting, billing, etc.

    Even metro PCS is .19 a minute for roaming on certain plans. That can get pretty steep.
    So many phones, so little time.

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