There ya go!!!Originally Posted by ilvla2
Originally Posted by Squid7085
Haha, yeah my wife and I like to venture over there for dinner and a movie. LOVE the Warren Theatre.
Me personally, I prefer a trip to Best Buy and check out toys
There ya go!!!Originally Posted by ilvla2
They are not selling service in Hutchinson. When I go to an AT&T store in Wichita, they always tell me it is partner coverage. If I tell them that I have home coverage, they will say they do have sites in Hutchinson, but they cannot sell service there.Originally Posted by Squid7085
I don't think they have the capacity for this yet. According to wireless advisor they have a license for PCS only. They also have a license for the 1.7/2.1 band, but it says future. Does anyone know when this will become available?Originally Posted by Squid7085
For a short time, the AT&T coverage map was showing home coverage in Hutchinson. The lastest update shows partner coverage.
Originally Posted by jasonw
What is the 1.7/2.1 band? Is this data service?? Just something below 3G?
I like to think they are some of the nicest theaters in the country. In my opinion its worth and extra few bucks to be in that atmosphere, not to mention the THX and sound. Oh, we are spoiled here. I also enjoy trips to Best Buy but I leave depressed because I have no money right now!Originally Posted by richmond23
Humm, that makes me wonder if they are planning to start selling there. Its probably the largest market in Kansas that AT&T does not sell to. Like somebody stated, it is probably cheaper for them to put up romaing towers than to pay roaming fees.Originally Posted by jasonw
Depends on how many Mhz of PCS they have, AT&T has deployed 3G on PCS in places. I just don't know if they are going to those markets actively yet. I don't think anybody knows what AT&T plans to do with the 1.7/2.1 AWS band. I think they bought it as a backup with no current plans to deploy. Although I could see it as being part of their LTE deployment.Originally Posted by jasonw
I also just looked at the map, not sure what the deal is there... Is there anybody that is in Hutch that could tell us the MNC up there?
The 1.7/2.1 band is just another frequency that the FCC has allocated for Wireless services. Currently AT&T uses Cellular (850Mhz) and PCS (1900Mhz). But recently the FCC sold off 700Mhz and AWS (Paired 1.7Ghz/2.1Ghz) AT&T owns both 700 and 1.7/2.1, however the lower the Mhz, the further and better at penetrating buildings, so providers tend to try to use those first. Which makes me think 1.7/2.1 is just for extreme cases were they need it. Currently T-Mobile is deploying their 3G on AWS (1.7/2.1)Originally Posted by richmond23
I think I explained that all right...
it makes sense what you said about the bands...etc... Ah hell, the phone works and does what I want it to, so I shouldn't worry too much
I hear ya on the Best buy thing though, i usually ended up using my Best Buy card in that store and racked up a huge bill!! But hey at least I got some good stuff out of it. I'll leave the card out of my wallet for a few months or so and build some credit up BTW I hear there is another Best Buy being built on the west side?? Right next to Olive Garden I believe.
As far as the Warren theatre is concerned, to me it is the ONLY theatre to watch movies in. I am willing to drive the extra 45 minutes to watch a movie.
Yup, right behind the Olive Garden and Granite City in New Market Square.Originally Posted by richmond23
Someone asked for the MNC in Hutchinson. The MNC showing on my phone is 310-410.
So it appears that AT&T is running a native roaming network there despite what the coverage map says.Originally Posted by jasonw
so uhhhh what does this mean?? Does it mean that we actually have NATIVE coverage whereas the coverage map says that we are using a partner network?Originally Posted by Squid7085
Heh, sorry, sometimes I forget to talk in layman's terms. Basically every GSM network in the world has a "code" called the MNC, Mobile Network Code I believe. AT&T's is 310-410, so if he is seeing that number than AT&T MUST be running towers in Hutch. Sometimes it costs a provider less to construct towers and run them in some areas than to just pay the roaming fees. It does not surprise me that Hutch fits that bill.Originally Posted by richmond23
There was for a bit two coverage dots in Hutch on the Map, but it appears to be gone. The thing people are talking about is that since you mentioned them putting up more towers, it might be possible that AT&T plans to expand coverage in that area and actually sell service, something that would be welcome.
Thanks Squid, that makes perfect sense to me. I really hope that are going to be putting up new towers in the area. The lady that helped my wife and I with our iPhones at the Wichita West Store promised me she would check with her "tower guy" and let me know if for sure that more towers coming up. I think it would be awesome if AT&T started selling service in Hutch. More than anything else, I want that 3G networkOriginally Posted by Squid7085
hell, if it's cheaper to put up towers than to pay roaming costs, might as well sell service in that area too.
iPhone 4 on AT&T:
Those "Roaming only" towers seem to have been popping up quite a bit recently, not sure what AT&T's "long term" plan is for those. Around here in Wichita they have also put up some towers South of the city in Winfield. The coverage here pretty much ends not far outside of the Metro area and doesn't cover places that us Wichitans travel to the most. Including Cheney Lake.Originally Posted by zephxiii
The thing with Hutch is that its not that large of an area, and its not that far from Wichita, so 5 towers could easily cover the entire populated area and connect it up to the Wichita coverage. Again, the 3G thing might be Iffy completely based on capacity.
Hutchinson is listed to be in a different cellular market than Wichita, and it's very possible AT&T isn't allowed to sell to that market... having native coverage does not mean the carrier can (or will) sell service there.Originally Posted by zephxiii
There's an ongoing debate in this forum about a sole AT&T tower in MT (which is devoid of AT&T service) that is similar in scope to this discussion.
AT&T does this across a lot of highways in the South Plains as well, such as the areas along I-27 in Texas and I-35 in Oklahoma. They may have native coverage on the highways and towns it crosses, but can't/won't sell service to the markets/towns that highway crosses.
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