I am a little confused. My Verizon phone was able to roam on GSM because they used TDMA. Tell it was shutdown. The phone recognizes it as Analog. If PCS has TDMA, It could be technically be used on GSM.
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Y'know, I'm used to hysterical 14-year-old ******** on the internet, but this is exceptional. Never before in human history have so many nerds hyperventilated so publicly over so little.
Foxconn employee Sun Danyong, 25, apparently killed himself on July 16 after realizing that one of the iPhone 4G prototypes that was entrusted to him was missing, according to Chinese media reports. Sun was responsible for shipping iPhone prototypes to Apple.
Three new Apple patents applications unearthed this week suggest a range of new features that may be included in the next generation iPhone.
MacRumors reveals the most interesting patent appears to be a haptic feedback concept employing a "grid of piezoelectronic actuators" potentially producing a fully tactile touchscreen. This could mean the ability to feel virtual buttons or a click wheel and receive small vibrations from the handset.
Limited haptic technology has started gaining adoption in other mobile phones and there had been some talk that Apple might have been looking to adopt it.
A second Apple patent application suggests the detection of a user's individual fingerprints as an input method, a security implementation likely to be welcomed by many. It could also mean allowing different parts of the iPhone and any applications to open or locked to different users.
The last, and possibly least, Apple patent application places a Radio-frequency identification (RFID) tag reader in the actual display panel of a device, allowing it to read RFID tags. RFID tags are small circuits that can be embedded in objects for identification using a special reader. RFID tags are often used in enterprise supply chain management to improve the efficiency of inventory tracking and management.
Apple suggests that a RFID antenna could be placed in the touch sensor panel itself, allowing it to also be used as a RFID reader. As RFID tags become more common, this could add a useful function to future touch screen devices suggests MacRumors.
It's coming. And soon. No doubt. 3Gs is just a way of milking a bit more life out of the 3G line. I have been saying it for awhile now. It will be on Verizons network. Easily within a year or 2. Fast tracking LTE is the key to all of it.
And with AT&T's hinting and slight acknowledgment lately of potentially losing exclusivity of the IPhone soon...I would say the stars are aligning.
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No suprise here. Verizon easily has more money to throw around then AT&T and Sprint. They've always had the best and most reliable network in the US and everyone knows it. If you look at Verizon's coverage map compared to AT&T and Sprint that becomes obvious.
Verizon has no where else to go other than to LTE. And who's to say they have not been working on it prior to this? Verizon runs a tight ship when it comes to rumours.
Does this have to do with the new iPhone coming out? Maybe.. If you think about it a while it does sound logical. The iPhone is and has been the most bought and used phone since it came out. And has put AT&T's wireless division back on the map. All you hear about is iPhone this, or iPhone that, or "iPhone killer". Truth is what ever network gets this it is guarenteed a MASSIVE money maker.
That said I feel that the iPhone is just one factor however.
A Chinese man suspected of stealing a prototype for the fourth generation iPhone has committed suicide.
iPhone 4G will always be confused with 4th generation iPhone. Btw, one would be stupid to think that the iPhone will be exclusive on AT&T forever, but AT&T will not lose exclusivity anytime soon. LTE has a very, very long way to go before its widespread. Until then the phone will either have to fall back on CDMA or GSM and I just don't see Apple making a CDMA version of the iPhone. LTE will still be far into its infancy come 2010 so any talk of Apple making an LTE phone in 2010 is just wishful thinking.
“Also, LTE being a GSM-based technology, Verizon’s migration to LTE would make it a bit easier to adopt the iPhone 3G S. Verizon also expects netbooks to be a key driver moving forward, which should help fuel data usage.”
How would VZW migrating to LTE make it easier for VZW to adopt the iPhone 3G S? Is VZW launching a surprise HSPA network on 850 Mhz or 1900 Mhz that we don't know about? I hope they misquoted Mr. Blin in that article. Either that or he's not quite sure what he's talking about.
Google the recent death in China of a worker that lost an IPhone 4G prototype. This wasn't exactly old news or hidden news. It was all over the place.
You're (again) confusing "4th gen iPhone" with "iPhone 4G". "4th gen iPhone" simply means the next generation of the device, with the original iPhone being the 1st gen, iPhone 3G being the 2nd gen, and iPhone 3G [S] being the 3rd gen. A hypothetical "iPhone 4G" would refer to the network technology being used, ie. LTE. However, the reports were for a "4th gen iPhone", not an "iPhone 4G", some incorrectly translated news articles to the contrary none-withstanding. No matter how much you'd like to talk yourself into it, iPhone 4G will not exist until 2011 at the earliest.
Would an LTE/CDMA hybrid iPhone-like device break the contract Apple has with AT&T? Actually, I guess it doesn't really even matter cause I'm sure Verizon has the funds to buy them out, but... The point being it'd be a new device, not an iPhone 3G or 3GS. Early 2010 is possible, but I'm leaning towards the usual Summer release. An updated iPhone for AT&T (with faster data speeds?), and an LTE iPhone for Verizon.
As for Verizon's LTE rollout, I definitely see 20-30 markets having LTE available in the first half of 2010. For some reason I'm thinking I heard they were starting rollout in Boston and in somewhere else the end of 2009? Either way, Verizon wants to be the first in the game, they're going to haul some you know what to get LTE up and running.
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Originally Posted by MrSpock2002
No suprise here. Verizon easily has more money to throw around then AT&T and Sprint. They've always had the best and most reliable network in the US and everyone knows it.
Fanboys crack me up.
Originally Posted by whitetigergrowl
He said it is still early days and VZW is doing its LTE trials in Boston and Seattle later this year with plans to deploy to 30 markets covering 100 million subs next year.
VZW has a total of 87 million subs now, and by next year they're going to have 100 million in 30 markets?
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VZW has a total of 87 million subs now, and by next year they're going to have 100 million in 30 markets?
Probably should read 100 million pops not subs.
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Probably should read 100 million pops not subs.
So basically, the guy quoted in the article really shouldn't be talking to the press. First he says this and then goes on to say “Also, LTE being a GSM-based technology, Verizon’s migration to LTE would make it a bit easier to adopt the iPhone 3G S." I think they need to hire someone new. Maybe whitetigergrowl. He/she seems to be a good VZW PR/marketing person.
CFO John Killian reiterated that the plan is to have a commercial launch in "up to 30 markets next year" (note he didn't say when in 2010), with an expected 100 million points of presence for LTE by 2013.
No such thing has been credibly confirmed at all. A "4th gen iPhone" is not at all the same as "iPhone 4G".Sure, eventually, but not in 2010.I can tell you really want this to happen, but that doesn't make it so. There will be no iPhone 4G in 2010 and there won't be an iPhone on VZW in 2010. A tablet computer, yeah, I can see that, but not iPhone.
How do you know that there will not be a Verizon Iphone in 2010? I've been reading the quotes of Verizon's CEOs and every time they are asked about it, they don't deny it and don't confirm it. They say there will be devices in the coming months. From my experience of following their comments over the years on upcoming devices, when they neither confirm or deny something it means its confirmed. The last time was with the Storm, i believe the comment was 'we're not announcing anything 'today' then the Storm was released a couple months after that. I heard a similar quote a couple months ago when asked about the Iphone. Don't you see a trend here?
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Originally Posted by whitetigergrowl
I hope they misquoted Mr. Blin in that article. Either that or he's not quite sure what he's talking about.
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