Seriously, the iphone is not that great. Get an Omnia!
I agree with you 100%, but there are a lot of people who do not. Some people just can't deal with Windows Mobile and I can understand that. But still, I strongly doubt we will see an iPhone on VZW anytime soon, if ever, and honestly I don't really want to. I like the fact that all the different carriers have different exclusives because it creates competition. VZW not carrying the iPhone will do nothing but force other manufacturers to provide VZW with their own exclusive iPhone attempts (what BB already tried), and competition is best for us as consumers.
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I agree with you 100%, but there are a lot of people who do not. Some people just can't deal with Windows Mobile and I can understand that. But still, I strongly doubt we will see an iPhone on VZW anytime soon, if ever, and honestly I don't really want to. I like the fact that all the different carriers have different exclusives because it creates competition. VZW not carrying the iPhone will do nothing but force other manufacturers to provide VZW with their own exclusive iPhone attempts (what BB already tried), and competition is best for us as consumers.
I disagree. Having the iphone on vzw would make att stop relying on it to make up for their crappy network. For them to survive, they'd have to make their network as good or better than vzw's. They'd have to roll out 4G networks faster than vzw. ATT wouldn't have the market share it does now without the iphone, IMHO. Exclusivity agreements slow down innovation like patents do. They allow the manufacturer to recoup development costs, which is a good thing for them, but not necessarily for us in the short-term. Other manufacturers will have a stronger incentive to make iphone competitor in the absence of exclusivity agreements.
I think Apple would just like to get a quality chipset into the iPhone (they took a lot of flak from people complaining about the reception on the 2G and 3G models). In the article, it mentions that Qualcomm makes the chipset in the G1 for T-Mobile. I don't think they're running CDMA anywhere, so there's certainly precedent for Qualcomm not doing CDMA in a chipset.
My guess is it will just be a 3G chipset like the current 3G iPhone, but supporting HSDPA 7.2 or something faster than the current incarnation.
Verizon has been talking with Apple on bringing the next iPhone to Verizon Wireless as the exclusivity agreement with ATT has run its course. There still in negotiations on pricing, rights, and fees. Verizon wants the iPhone but doesnt want all the fees that Apple charged ATT. Verizon likes to buy the phones for a set price and not have to worry about the manufacturer charging royalties based on data plans, etc. Expect a lot of interesting things this year I can tell you that... After the Alltel transition is complete and all the Alltel customers/stores have been transitioned to purely Verizon Wireless there are going to be a lot of new rollouts plan, and phone wise. Its going to be a media campaign like you've never seen.
Verizon wants the iPhone but doesnt want all the fees that Apple charged ATT. Verizon likes to buy the phones for a set price and not have to worry about the manufacturer charging royalties based on data plans, etc.
All that stuff disappeared with the iPhone 3G. It's not 2007 any more.
There still in negotiations on pricing, rights, and fees. Verizon wants the iPhone but doesnt want all the fees that Apple charged ATT. Verizon likes to buy the phones for a set price and not have to worry about the manufacturer charging royalties based on data plans, etc. Expect a lot of interesting things this year I can tell you that.
Are you high up at vzw corporate? Or are you guessing?
It is crazy to think that there isn't a CDMA iPhone, since at&t did offer it to VZW first.
If I recall correctly, when Apple announced it, they hadn't yet submitted it to the FCC, and it's just a matter of putting a CDMA chipset into the phone instead of a GSM one and writing the correct drivers for it. I'd think it would have been rather irrelevant at that stage.
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Seriously, the iphone is not that great. Get an Omnia!
I have never been a fan boy of anything in particular around here, but that statement just simply cannot be further from the truth. In fact, I was on my way home Thursday from finally finding an Omnia in a store that wasn't hosed and deciding to buy one and give it a try. Then I stopped at WalMart for something and walking down the aisle saw an iPhone. I picked it up and played with it for a few minutes and it simply blows away any recent phone Verizon has offered from a performance standpoint. Save for some of the older BBs, I've never seen a smartphone that responsive. It does what it does, when you tell it, and that's that. It doesn't require tweaking for better speed or third-party UIs to be more touch-friendly. It just works. For 99% of the public (read: non-HoFo members), this is what smartphones should be. (I will not entertain anyone's alternate definition of "smartphone", either; you know what I mean. They can get email, browse the web and use many data-intensive apps. Not everyone needs a PC in their hands.) While I enjoyed spending hours modifying my WinMo phones, the simplicity of my BB 8703 I had to buy for work is comparatively refreshing. (And before you scream MMS, I bet that's not a huge deal to most people. I never sent one in my life until I was demoing a Storm in November.)
While there are features that are oversold about the iPhone (my favorite being the "we have an app store and the Storm doesn't" when there have been 1000s of free BB, WinMo and Palm apps online for a decade), its performance and simplicity are apparently harder to achieve than I'd have previously thought. It also has the best form factor (thinest) of the all-screen-style phones. The fact that LG nor Samsung nor RIM has produced a phone that slim is nothing to scoff at, either.
That said, I am growing tired of my employer having full access to personal data on my phone and am ready to buy a non-BB and cut the 24/7-ties to work. If there were a CDMA variant of the iPhone on VZW, it would doubtless be in my hands right now. Given it's not likely in the next six months, I will probably get an Omnia to mod to provide the second-most usable touch-screen interface I can find.
Originally Posted by aadam101
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