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    Okay to give out ESN number?

    I'm selling a phone (Craig's List) and someone relatively aggressively asked for the ESN number. Is it safe to give the person the info? I worry someone can take take my good ESN and code it somehow to a phone with a bad ESN number.

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    Ive sold many phones on both craigslist and ebay and have given out the esn number. Some people want the esn to check to make sure they aren't getting ripped off when they buy a phone. When I put up an ad, I usually state that the esn is clear and there is no problem connecting the phone to a Verizon account.

    From my experience, Craigslist is a bit shaky with many scammers. If the person buying the phone gives you his/her phone number then you can probably be safe in giving the esn number. If not, then I would be hesitant to give out the esn number.

    Scammers tend to stay away from person contact so you can't tract them down once they scam you.
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    I agree with Scruffy. When I've sold phones on ebay, I just say in the description that the ESN is clear and guaranteed to activate on the network or I'll refund the money. I've never bought or sold anything on Craigslist. Never even been to the website, for that matter. However, if the person is really getting that aggressive, is it really worth selling it to them? I've gotten messages from ebay buyers asking for the ESN. I always repeat that it's guaranteed or their money back, but that I cannot give out the ESN. I know that there's a slim chance that someone will clone the ESN, but it's just my luck. I'd rather sell the phone cheaper (or not at all), rather than have a brick that I can never sell (or even use) again.
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    a good buyer will be adament about an ESN being provided before purchase. too many people have gotten dooped into buying phones that are on the lost/stolen list to just blindly buy a phone w/out checking the ESN. kudos to you for asking and to vzw for the ability for perspective buyers to be able to check it once you provide it. this is a great thread question imo
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    I didn't think it was possible to clone the esn on cdma phones. I do agree when selling online it is better to be cautious. If someone is that pushy it is better of not selling to them. Chances are you will have problems in the long run.



    Quote Originally Posted by mick662
    I agree with Scruffy. When I've sold phones on ebay, I just say in the description that the ESN is clear and guaranteed to activate on the network or I'll refund the money. I've never bought or sold anything on Craigslist. Never even been to the website, for that matter. However, if the person is really getting that aggressive, is it really worth selling it to them? I've gotten messages from ebay buyers asking for the ESN. I always repeat that it's guaranteed or their money back, but that I cannot give out the ESN. I know that there's a slim chance that someone will clone the ESN, but it's just my luck. I'd rather sell the phone cheaper (or not at all), rather than have a brick that I can never sell (or even use) again.

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    there used to be a site called (name withheld to prevent getting banned)swireless website that told how to clone moto phones ESNs but i dont know if its still valid or if the methods work. the owner was somebody that was high up in the techno design dept of moto and got angry with their policies and posted a web site on how to hack moto phones, including cloning the ESN

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    If you're selling on Craigslist, just meet the person at the VZW store, they will check the esn for him, when he sees it is clear, make your sale.

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    Also, you can have the person try the *228 option 3 and activate the phone while you are with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe12304
    If you're selling on Craigslist, just meet the person at the VZW store, they will check the esn for him, when he sees it is clear, make your sale.

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    When I sell a phone a eBay (a rare event), I also put that I would be happy to supply the winner of the auction with the ESN, if they want, before they make payment. This way, the ESN isn't posted on the 'net for everyone, forever, but instead is just given one-on-one via email to the buyer.

    The few times I have posted anything on Craiglist, most of the calls or emails I get, are from shady characters who have absolutely no interest in actually making a legitimate purchase. With the majority being scam artists, possibly not even in the USA, I would never give out any details ahead of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScruffyGuy
    If the person buying the phone gives you his/her phone number then you can probably be safe in giving the esn number. If not, then I would be hesitant to give out the esn number.
    If from Craiglist, I would even take the extra step, and run the phone number they give you, thru a reverse lookup, like offered on whitepages.com. Make sure things seem to match up, before inviting them over to your home.

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    I never ever invite anyone from Craigslist to my house. I always meet them in a public place. There are some psycho people on craigslist.


    Quote Originally Posted by WaltA
    If from Craiglist, I would even take the extra step, and run the phone number they give you, thru a reverse lookup, like offered on whitepages.com. Make sure things seem to match up, before inviting them over to your home.

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    Yea make that public place the verizon store
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    Once, I brought a phone from Craigslist and before I paid for it, I asked the person to check the ESN for me onsite at the meeting place. That way, I could see if the ESN was clear and CS would have a record of whoever checked the ESN last and therefore track them.

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