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    Text message transcripts???

    My wife & I are worried about our daughter. She's fallen into a bad crowd and you get the idea. She borrows my wifes G1 phone from time to time and we've noticed lots of texts messages to numbers we don't know which have made us suspicious.

    We plan on setting up an app that stores the text messages locally for the future so we can spy on her a little and see who shes talking to & what they are saying. please don't judge us on whether it's right to do or not. we've already decided that this invasion of privacy is worth it to us.

    We contacted T-Mobile to try and get a transcript of the previous texts. We were told that we'd have to have the records subpoenaed (which we have no problem doing) but they said all we will get are the usage records which we already have from logging into their website. there is 1 years worth online.

    Can we get the actual texts? I searched and find conflicting information. Some people say they aren't stored due to privacy reasons & other people say they are archived for 18 months. Whats the real story w/ t-mobile? can we get the actual messages? what should we be asking for when we get our records subpoenaed? do you have any suggestions?

    if all we can get are the usage records, can we get records from beyond the year that's online?

    thanks in advance

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    I dont know about an app for the G1, but you cannot look at actual text messages on T-Mobile.com, but how many have been sent/recieved and the incoming/outgoing number.

    They've redone mytmobile, so you may want to ask in that thread.

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    Thanks Antenna, we already have all that. we can see the times, dates, numbers, incoming, outgoing, & whether it's text or pic.

    what we were trying to get was a log of the actual text. it seems that with other providers you can get the actual words that were texted if you go thru the police & have it subpoenaed. w/ t-mobile, we're not so sure. don't want to go thru all the headache just to get back what we already have.

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    I know that the phone companies keep text messages somewhere, because I've heard of criminal cases where the prosecutor used actual texts as evidence. Here's an example:

    http://news.cnet.com/Police-Blotter-....html?tag=nw.3

    Whether you as a private citizen can get a copy is probably a question for an attorney.

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    You would need a valid legal reason, an attorney willing to do the work, and a court willing to play along. Yes, all carriers store the actual text, however, they are extremely hard to access. The cost in attorney's fee's and court fee's alone probably wouldn't make it worth it and thats assuming that you could argue a valid legal reason in the first place.

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    Does the Family Allowances work for text messaging too?




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    T-Mobile does not keep the content of text messages for any length of time. The content is deleted as soon as the message is delivered to the end user. I guarantee it. If police are using a warrant, they can capture messages in real time but cannot pull a history of message content at all. Times, dates, originating and terminating numbers are stored, but never content. Anywhere. If you want to pursue using an app on a phone, that would be the only way to do this.

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    SMS Servers

    All carriers have their own policy of how long messages are kept on their SMS server.

    They will only release that data with a valid court order.

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    How about just talking to your daughter instead of spying on her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkdave
    How about just talking to your daughter instead of spying on her?
    +1

    Feel free to do some parenting. Don't let her use the phone anymore!

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    The fact she's using the G1 makes what you want a snap. Go to the android market and install SMS Backup (free) G-Backup (paid). SMS Backup only copies messages to a specified gmail account. G-Backup (the one I use and prefer) backs up messages, call logs and pictures to a given gmail account.

    Both apps work in the background and would do what you want provided she doesn't notice the app. G-Backup sounds less conspicuous to me. Both apps backup to any gmail account (including Google apps). Perfect for archiving, as is the case with me.
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    One piece of advice since you're going this route. If you are going to bust her for anything as a result, let her think you busted her someway other than the phone, especially if you know she's going to do something else. And I'm not talking just the privacy issue. We went thru, this but on the computer. You'll have a better handle on things when you see things going in the right direction.

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    This is going to be unpopular but....

    Your her parents, which means that you have the control, what you are doing is allowing your daughter to have control. Take away the phone completely and lock her life down. All your really doing is letting her dictate what will and will not happen....

    Take some control, be a parent, and control your children...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffro01
    This is going to be unpopular but....

    Your her parents, which means that you have the control, what you are doing is allowing your daughter to have control. Take away the phone completely and lock her life down. All your really doing is letting her dictate what will and will not happen....

    Take some control, be a parent, and control your children...

    Jeff
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    To the OP..just remember, being a parent and being a friend to your kid are 2 different things. Take control of the situation by removing the medium that is causing the problem in the first place....the cell phone. Sure your kid my be upset or say "i hate " but they will realize you are only trying to help them. Besides, spying on them will only worsen the outcome when you confront them. They will also through out the "respect my privacy" bullsh*t. Kids these days.....

    *I am not telling you how to raise your kid, nor should what I say be taken as fact, just giving an honest opinion from being mostly raised by my grandmother who didn't put up with childish cr*p.* Goodluck

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    I have to second all of the hard line responses. My Mom works for the Local School Board and is the Assistant to the Deputy Superintendant. Her job is to solely handle the logistics surrounding the disciplining of students including ( and mostly) the scheduling and coordinationg of Expulsion HEarings. What I hear about (just the situations, Moms good on Privacy even with her own Son ) from the Grade School Level to the High School Levels, equates to one thing. You can become a hard nosed concernced parent now, or bailing her out ( or visting her) of jail later. And if Jails not bad enough, as a local couple are doing just this weekend, arranging a funeral could be in your future.

    Please never think "Not my child" or "can't happen here" It can be and it does.
    Obviously you have identified a situation, but now its important to handle it properly. While you didnt come to a Cell Phone Forum for Child Parenting Advice, like any Forum you got more then you asked for.

    Personally, my opiniomn is she is using your your phone. It would be one issue to go into her room and rummage around and take her phone out at nite and be snooping around her message history. But as I read it, this is your own phone. You have every right in the world to monitor what your personal phone is being used for and the content that is going through your own phone. In this case you owe no explanation and have every facet of "right" in your favor.While you may pi__ her off, It is better to have a pi__ off daughter, then a memory.

    I wish you all the luck in the world.
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