Two lines of unlimited talk/text/data $99.99 (per month) PREPAID.

[offthegrid]

If you don't want to actually state there are two stores thats fine.

Platinumtel users have tried to activate unsuccessfully online and through customer service and have no reason to lie. Its not as if they are selling something.


http://www.howardforums.com/showpost...3&postcount=71

[EclipseCEO]

currently we are focusing on online sales however we are working with major franchises and retail store to pick up our brand.We have a few select stores that will be selling the new PCS product. We will have Resellers around the country launching or 7 day plan in rental stores. We will be offering rental stores the option to have some high end phones to rent out to customers Example

If you want the Blackberry tour but you dont want to spend the $499 this is what you can do.

Signup at one of the rental stores and pay (this is an example)
$10.00 week for the Blackberry
$15.00 a week for the unlimited plan.
$10.00 activation

let me respond to this question before offthegrid even asks it

Yes the weely plan comes to more then the monthly plan and we have this for a reason. If you want to be able to pay your bill weekly due to not having all the money upfront for the monthly plan. You pay for convenience.

Thanks.

Again those numbers are examples it is up to the resller to make the prices..

[offthegrid]

Okay so there is a ton of people and places ready to sell this but you can't give any names or address's due to whatever, Okay I can buy that except for this -

How can you sell to a reseller when you have already stated that you are making no money on the service yourself and you must have to pay a reseller commission?

What rental places? rent a center, aarons, etc?

[avenue]

currently we are focusing on online sales however we are working with major franchises and retail store to pick up our brand.We have a few select stores that will be selling the new PCS product. We will have Resellers around the country launching or 7 day plan in rental stores. We will be offering rental stores the option to have some high end phones to rent out to customers Example

If you want the Blackberry tour but you dont want to spend the $499 this is what you can do.

Signup at one of the rental stores and pay (this is an example)
$10.00 week for the Blackberry
$15.00 a week for the unlimited plan.
$10.00 activation

let me respond to this question before offthegrid even asks it

Yes the weely plan comes to more then the monthly plan and we have this for a reason. If you want to be able to pay your bill weekly due to not having all the money upfront for the monthly plan. You pay for convenience.

Thanks.

Again those numbers are examples it is up to the resller to make the prices..

Can you tell us the stores that will be selling the PCS plan?

[EclipseCEO]

Okay so there is a ton of people and places ready to sell this but you can't give any names or address's due to whatever, Okay I can buy that except for this -

How can you sell to a reseller when you have already stated that you are making no money on the service yourself and you must have to pay a reseller commission?

What rental places? rent a center, aarons, etc?

first off a "reseller" wil be selling them at there own prices and doing there own advertising when they are going to launch. We will not be advertising non Eclipse Branded services for them. They buy our services wholesale then resell them under there name. We are not able to give list of resellers. sorry. Ive said this many times before in this thread.

Just as a side note Resellers are paying us more then what we are retailing for. Example not true numbers or maybe they are, who knows. Maybe we are reselling for $44.50 when we are retailing for $39.99 so again you make no sense you make an assumption we are reselling for the same or less then what we are retailing for. WE ARE NOT...

[tmobiley]

first off a "reseller" wil be selling them at there own prices and doing there own advertising when they are going to launch. We will not be advertising non Eclipse Branded services for them. They buy our services wholesale then resell them under there name. We are not able to give list of resellers. sorry. Ive said this many times before in this thread.

I'm not sure that you being an MVNO selling Sprint's service enables you to then again resell the MVNO service to another reseller under their own name/pricing.

If you resell your service branded Ecliipse with your rateplans that is good. But I'm not quite sure the MVNO contract allows you to resell the service that Sprint sells at a markup.

[avenue]

I'm not sure that you being an MVNO selling Sprint's service enables you to then again resell the MVNO service to another reseller under their own name/pricing.

If you resell your service branded Ecliipse with your rateplans that is good. But I'm not quite sure the MVNO contract allows you to resell the service that Sprint sells at a markup.

Yeah, I don't know about that.

Could Eclipse Mobile possibly be an MVNE instead of an MVNO?

[EclipseCEO]

Ok for those who dont know how the the system works this is for you.

An MVNE is an enabler meaning they are not in the Retail market the choose to wholesale there service.

an MVNO goes through an MVNE (sometimes) if they do not have a lot of funds or letter of credits MVNO is a retailer.

an aggregater is a company that wholesales services from a carrier then builds there own software and then sels the services out to other companies for smaller startups. Example around $150K upfront and them some letters of Credit.

Long story short once the services are sent down to a company (mvne, mvno) it is up to the agreement to say if they can resell it or not. 9 times out of 10 the purchaser CAN resell services. Contracts are typically left open stating this is the wholesale fee and thats it what you do with it is up to the comapny. (wholesale or resale)

I hope this helps people understand the industry better. These types of questions i love.

[avenue]

Ok for those who dont know how the the system works this is for you.

An MVNE is an enabler meaning they are not in the Retail market the choose to wholesale there service.

an MVNO goes through an MVNE (sometimes) if they do not have a lot of funds or letter of credits MVNO is a retailer.

an aggregater is a company that wholesales services from a carrier then builds there own software and then sels the services out to other companies for smaller startups. Example around $150K upfront and them some letters of Credit.

Long story short once the services are sent down to a company (mvne, mvno) it is up to the agreement to say if they can resell it or not. 9 times out of 10 the purchaser CAN resell services. Contracts are typically left open stating this is the wholesale fee and thats it what you do with it is up to the comapny. (wholesale or resale)

I hope this helps people understand the industry better. These types of questions i love.

So, your contract allows you to resell the service, correct?

Just making sure I understand correctly..

I'm glad to hear you like answering these questions. You'll be getting more and more.

[tmobiley]

I'm glad to hear you like answering these questions. You'll be getting more and more.

Yeah I agree. Interesting to say the least...

[offthegrid]

Yeah there is a huge market to sell a product at wholesale for more than retail.

first off a "reseller" wil be selling them at there own prices and doing there own advertising when they are going to launch. We will not be advertising non Eclipse Branded services for them. They buy our services wholesale then resell them under there name. We are not able to give list of resellers. sorry. Ive said this many times before in this thread.

Just as a side note Resellers are paying us more then what we are retailing for. Example not true numbers or maybe they are, who knows. Maybe we are reselling for $44.50 when we are retailing for $39.99 so again you make no sense you make an assumption we are reselling for the same or less then what we are retailing for. WE ARE NOT...

[EclipseCEO]

Yeah there is a huge market to sell a product at wholesale for more than retail.

Thats correct there is a huge market for it. These companies that want to resell services do not have the capital and the credit to get a direct agreement or the customer base so there willing to pay more for services in order not to have to pay the Deposits and letters of credit. VOIP and ISP companies are the major companies that want to resell services (smaller companies) they do not have the funds or the credit to get a great agreement so they come to companies like ours in order to get an agreement.

P.S. yes we can resell our services to anyone we want. Wholesale or retail.

[elecconnec]

Our Map?

Okay, Here...?

http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?language=EN
or
http://eclipsemobilephones.com/mapvoicesprintUS.gif

I do whole heartily apologize, I thought when we said Sprints Footprint and Sprints Native Coverage and No Roaming it would have been easy to locate.

But for those who couldn't. Links above (Note: Light Green and Green Fair Game, Light Gray and White , Not Included)

Wrong map. I was responding to EclipseCEO's claim that the extra cost of your Verizon-based plans vs. PagePlus' was because you used Verizon's postpaid map (without roaming) instead of the prepaid map. I was pointing out that those were the same thing!

It's the little comments like this that undermine your credibility- we continually hear your CEO telling us how you used to be bad boys, but you're so much more customer focused now, and yet your comments here are typical sales pitches, full of half-truths and exaggeration.

I'm not saying you don't provide the services you claim to- I just think you're a couple of guys in New York storefront (or storefronts) hustling phones and service and pretending you're bigger fish than you really are. [Assumption not accusation!]

I'm not even sure what this has to do with the topic raised in this thread but I will entertain it for a while.

"Cannot release resellers because of NDA"

Dealers Include but not limited to

Eclipse Mobile Poughkeepsie - Ours
Eclipse Mobile New burgh - Ours
Eclipse Mobile Middletown - Ours

Seeing a helluva pattern yet?

Yes. A helluva pattern of exaggeration. The backpeddle from a "network" of dealers to 3 stores in NY and a few Letters of Intent to chain stores.

Why not just say that? Why not just come here and say "we're a bunch of guys from NY with a great new MVNO plan you should talk a look at," instead of this bluster and BS?

[EclipseCEO]

This is by far the greatest Questions that were asked towards Eclipse Mobile.

Here are our response.

Eclipse Mobile started our company (under a different name) As a International GPS tracking company. We were tracking devices in the Middle East. During our time building that company we realized the more Data and SMS usage we were having the more the Carrier (cellular company) was charging us. We held a meeting and decided that we should just become a cellular company. ( we knew very little at the time about cellular) When we started looking into the companies in the middle east we realized we should just do business in our home country on USA. We then started looking into the marker here. From there we moved faster then we should had to launch a company and make it profitable, our biggest mistake was building a business plan around thinking we cauld be as big as Verizon from day one. We ere cocky and Blinded. Our main strength in the wireless industry is not our $59.95 unlimited plan that is yes more then page plus but its our Unlimited International plan to Mexico. Customers come to us just to have some other services that are not offered by any other company. Example Unlimited international calling. Wait let me get this out now. A lot of people say Metro pcs and some other companies offer Unlimited to Mexico i urge you to look into it before you post that i assure you you will look kinda stupid the reason being is this.
www.metropcs.com/products/mexicolongdistance
This is a quote from there site
*Unlimited calls to Mexico only applies to calls to landline phones to selected geographic destinations"

We are the only company to offer true Unlimited calling to Land lines or cell phones anywhere in MEXICO.

Also we are the only company in the country to offer you a second international number on your cell phone from mexico to give you unlimited calling from the country to your cell phone free of charge. We wlso Offer a second number for Incoming Domestic calls so If for some reason you dont want to give you real number to someone you can give them our second number and it will auto connect to your cell phone. As you can see we have services that pull customers to us even though our main services are a little higher then the competitors.

Eclipse Mobile is not just a couple of guys in NY. I wish we were there would be less people with ideas and less people to answer to. LOL. But we are not this huge nationwide MNVO ether, We are a MNVO that has the cheapest greatest plan in the country as of Nov 14th 2009 and we are working on agreements with nationwide retail stores and franchises and other outlets however this will take time to get this stuff done but we are working on it again to make it better for the customers. Right now we are focusing on geting the product out to the customers.

Thank you for taking your time and reading this.



Yes. A helluva pattern of exaggeration. The backpeddle from a "network" of dealers to 3 stores in NY and a few Letters of Intent to chain stores.

Why not just say that? Why not just come here and say "we're a bunch of guys from NY with a great new MVNO plan you should talk a look at," instead of this bluster and BS?[/QUOTE]

[EclipseMobile]

It's the little comments like this that undermine your credibility- we continually hear your CEO telling us how you used to be bad boys, but you're so much more customer focused now, and yet your comments here are typical sales pitches, full of half-truths and exaggeration.

Here is my point, it's so easy to assume a lot, A your assuming that Eclipse Mobile is here to promote a product, they're not. B. Your assuming that what they are saying is a typical pitch with half truth's and exaggeration, the fact is , there not, and most of there responses has been in direct retaliation to blatant attacks against a service that they haven't tried, and honestly I'm kinda okay with the fact that members have an interest period, both good and bad, but no one in any community at all should feel the need to get defensive, whether it be a online community of phone junkies who love the technology (like myself) or a dead end street. Another member started the threads you have recently been replying to, we are just here to answer questions and we have for the past 6 months considered HF our personal "Customer Support" as in I any day of the week have a full PM box , in fact I personally feel that we owe numerous members of HF for where we are today, whether HUGE, small , Or In BeTwEen. And its a real shame when any company steps in at this level and wants to communicate with everyone and hopes they can listen and instead gets bombarded by a few members with assumptions and accusations, mostly about a product we haven't launched yet.

And to call anything we say BS, without knowing for certain is not only an "assumption" but an accusation

and I also find it intriguing how as a consumer this is exactly what we want, we always want to be face to face toe to toe with that one guy/girl we know will listen to us and we know that we can help make a change in an industry or with a product, and here we are doing just that, and here are a few members of a "Community" making us feel unwelcome, and why? Because they love there current service , Because they're advocates for the current service, because they work for another company, because they're die hard fans of another company, Who knows, but no matter how big or how small we are or claim to be, no matter how far we have come, no matter how hard we have worked, We have something that is real, and something that exists in a few days to everyone, and there is nothing exaggerated about that.