Reply With QuoteQuite late.. though I wish to know where they got this information from. I don't recognise the company or the website.. are they a respectable source?
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Why yes, that is a bag phone
Quite late.. though I wish to know where they got this information from. I don't recognise the company or the website.. are they a respectable source?
I've got more phones than fingers
Q4 2012 so almost 2013 and behind everyone else besides Leap/Cricket and US Cellular both of whom will probably be merged or bought out by then...
Thrill me...
I've climbed a cellphone tower
Do we know what spectrum they're supposed to be deploying it on, or are we waiting to see what they might try to buy?
And I'm surprised to see AT&T entering into the LTE game that late. I figured, especially with all of the capacity issues they're having and that nice chunk of 700 spectrum they're sitting on, they'd be on that like white on rice.
Edit: And really I don't think LTE is that big of a deal for T-Mobile yet. AT&T is the only one that I think really needs to get their butts in gear for it, and to a certain extent Verizon, but with plans to go to HSPA+ T-Mobile will be able to remain competitive for a decent amount of time, and I'd rather see them deploy their LTE network LATE, and do it right, than do what AT&T did with WCDMA and wind up with a capacity crisis down the road.
And, while T-Mobile's buildouts are a bit... bazaar, where they do have WCDMA coverage, I'd rate it the highest in quality among the carriers, from my own personal experience, and besting Sprint in that category is definitely an accomplishment. Sprint has a VERY well-built Ev-DO network.
3G where I go with AT&T > GPRS where I go with T-Mobile and "4G" where I don't.
I'm your typical 21 year old gay guy, or as we prefer to be called "Family-wrecking AIDS-mongers" waging what I call "The Homo-Jihad" against Sprint. That's what they get for destroying Nextel.
I have a blue tooth
AT&T may have LTE before T-Mobile, but everyone knows they will botch it bad.
If T-Mobile can get 21M/sec HSPA+ powered on by Q2 next year, then it doesn't seem all that bad to me.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
The real question is: What application needs 21mbps?
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Living the 4G life
All of them apparently. I think 21mbps is really where it should stop. It's totally unnecessary, especially on any mobile device. It's becoming a numbers thing though.
LTE has arrived. The third carrier in Las Vegas with 10x10 LTE coverage
Coverage will expand to 100 million LTE pops for the first half of 2013, with the second half of 2013 expanding to 200 million POPs covered. Release 10 LTE (2×10, 2×20) will be better performing than all other competitors.
T-Mobile USA. “This year, we’re stepping on the gas again. We are making continued coverage improvements and launching an advanced LTE network
I have a blue tooth
Not for apps, but people tether their phones, and I know of some people who have replaced land-line internet with wireless mobile internet.
Living the 4G life
That's still faster than what most people get through cable or DSL, and 3G still has data caps..
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That kind of thinking is frighting to carriers deploying LTE. HSPA+ is faster than most people have at home.Originally Posted by iFone3G
7.2Mb = ~3.6Mb
LTE = ~6-8Mb initially
HSPA+ 21Mb = ~10Mb
ATT should deploy HSPA+ along with Tmobile. Don't have LTE coverage on Tmobile in your area yet? Use HSPA+ 21Mbps. Don't have LTE coverage on ATT in your area yet? Use HSPA 7.2Mbps but more likely 3.6Mbps.
Tmobile has the opportunity to capitalize on sitting out the LTE race. "Good enough" data pricing, cheaper/ubiquitous HSPA+ hardware, and then cheaper LTE upgrades in the future can help them lead in the market.
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I wouldn't be surprised if their network is currently HSPA+ ready ATM, but just not turned on, until they finish installing the backhaul, and working out the bugs. They might be trying to see what speeds people get in parts of Philly, and how much Fiber, and/or T1s they need.
AT&T is just playing catch up to Verizon. They didn't care about LTE, until Verizon said we will have LTE by Q4, and parts of Q1 2010. That shook AT&T from the top.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
The bandwidth needed is just a math thing. They don't need the trial for that. The google campus has had fiber to the bts for awhile now. Many sites in LA already have fiber installed and some sites have already been cut over from copper to fiber. Expect good things for next year as HSPA and HSPA+ are implemented.
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I know Verizon will have LTE working with minimal issues, because they will most like install it where they have current 3G coverage. But AT&T with their handicapped network, will be dropping LTE to EDGE like hot cakes.
I've got more phones than fingers
I agree with LTE not being that big of deal. The only reason I see to have it eventually is for DATA Roaming, but Until then, who cares 21mbps is just as good as LTE in real world speeds. both will probably end up being the same speed for a while because of backhaul.
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It's not that big of a deal because of HSPA+, but when the other guy has it, and you don't it becomes a big deal in the tech world. Once Verizon launches LTE, and says come and get it, the tech writers will be all over it to sample it, and then bash AT&T, for not committing to it sooner.
Then once AT&T gets it, their customers will go right on bashing T-Mobile, for being late too. Same with 3G. They still brag about having 3G three years ahead of T-Mobile. Even if T-Mobile is rapidly launching 3G, and after having it for almost 2 years, they are already bumping up to HSPA+. Even with AT&T having a head start by 4 years, and with so many customers, and revenue coming in, they should have enough resources, and finances to jump their HSPA+ network light years ahead of T-Mobile. But, it will be a big deal when T-Mobile officially says their HSPA+ network is active, and can get you download speeds of up to 15Mbps real world.
All T-Mobile has to do, is launch their HSPA+ network by March, and they will be on a roll. But how long will it take before the OEMs put HSPA+ chipsets in their phones. I would say by Q2 2010, T-Mobile's phones will have HSPA+, while some will have still show up with 7.2Mbps specs.
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