First iDEN Android handset reported cleared by FCC 3/5/10

[townsey24]

New video!

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/12/12...nd-videod.html

Stolen? I thought he found it?

[justin.tyler]

Yeah, I never understood why they did not make a hybrid phone with IDEN for DC and CDMA for everything else (voice+data+text), particularly if they could deploy CDMA on 800MHz. It might be too late for CDMA at 800MHz thou.

There'd be too much interference between the two radios. It's pretty much impossible from my understanding.

Really I think just CDMA for just data would be the most consistent experience for users.

And, I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain Nextel had already shut down their Flash OFDM network before the merger, and taken it off the table.

[boss_hog]

Iden for voice and dc,Evdo for data. If no evdo data then iden for data.If no Iden then Cdma 800 for voice and data. No interferance with that.

[justin.tyler]

Iden for voice and dc,Evdo for data. If no evdo data then iden for data.If no Iden then Cdma 800 for voice and data. No interferance with that.

That'd be more of a nightmare than it'd be worth. Handoffs would never work, and the CDMA radio would have to be shut off to search for an iDEN signal. It just would be an unpractical solution.

In a perfect world it'd be nice, but it's unlikely.

[country6925]

And, I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain Nextel had already shut down their Flash OFDM network before the merger, and taken it off the table.

I thought the reason for that was because Qualcomm bought Flarion and killed it off. Likely that was part of the reason for the merger.

[boss_hog]

Well I can tell you the handoff would be no worse than sprint's now. EVERYTIME my sprint phone switchs to roam it drops the call. Iden does a better job in my experiance in fringe areas not to mention its 800mhz so its stronger overall. So what if drops when it switchs. If the cdma radio was set to check for 1900mhz just like Sprint phones do now and when it found one with a certain strenght then at that point check for Iden. Expensive?Yes!Easy? What is?Possible?Yes!
Point is people with Nextel are in Nextel coverage 98 percent of the time.This would just be to make that 2 percent a lot better by actually have a phone that works. Afterall that's what the whole phone game is about. It working

[503ducati]

Stolen? I thought he found it?

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/12/12...nd-videod.html

The kicker in this tale of a stolen unreleased Android smartphone is jay84305’s claim that he swiped the phone after some Motorola or Sprint employee dropped it next to their car. He says he “almost gave it back” but didn’t because the owner apparently looked like an “*******.” At least he “[hopes] you don’t get fired.” The best part comes at 4:20 in video #2, when he says he doesn’t know what we really want to know about the phone because “it’s just a regular phone.” That and Jay’s “fu*k you” shout out to Miami Police Officer M. Hernandez. Classic.

Simply amazing.

[VCI_Cell]

Well I can tell you the handoff would be no worse than sprint's now. EVERYTIME my sprint phone switchs to roam it drops the call.

For what it's worth, that's not Sprint's fault. I don't believe there's any CDMA carrier (or GSM, for that matter) that is able to perform a handoff from a native network to a roaming partner's. My information could be out of date, but I think this is still accurate.

I agree that the Opus One would be much more attractive if it used EvDO for data and iDEN for voice and DC. But for people who spend 90% of their day near a WiFi hotspot (as I do), this would be a really useful little device (as the 8350i is).

[boss_hog]

I don't believe there's any CDMA carrier (or GSM, for that matter) that. is able to perform a handoff from a native network to a roaming partner's. .

Exactly, My point
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But for people who spend 90% of their day near a WiFi hotspot (as I do), this would be a really useful little device (as the 8350i is).[/QUOTE]
Well said! Wifi is increasing available and currently has already placed itself throughout most peoples lives. It really brings these devices up to speed.

[503ducati]

For what it's worth, that's not Sprint's fault. I don't believe there's any CDMA carrier (or GSM, for that matter) that is able to perform a handoff from a native network to a roaming partner's. My information could be out of date, but I think this is still accurate.

I agree that the Opus One would be much more attractive if it used EvDO for data and iDEN for voice and DC. But for people who spend 90% of their day near a WiFi hotspot (as I do), this would be a really useful little device (as the 8350i is).

Exactly, people have been saying they need to offer a Boostberry. This looks to be possibly an even better device. If you are near a McDonalds, they will be offering free WiFi next month. Link

[Guest 171]

For what it's worth, that's not Sprint's fault. I don't believe there's any CDMA carrier (or GSM, for that matter) that is able to perform a handoff from a native network to a roaming partner's. My information could be out of date, but I think this is still accurate.

I agree that the Opus One would be much more attractive if it used EvDO for data and iDEN for voice and DC. But for people who spend 90% of their day near a WiFi hotspot (as I do), this would be a really useful little device (as the 8350i is).

I do recall Verizon being able to handover to US Cellular somewhere at some turnpike. I can't remember where though.

[NGeorge]

Everyone has stated how impossible it would be to combine an 800 IDEN radio with 850 CDMA... that very well be true... so wouldn't this be a simple solution?...

Turn off IDEN when roaming on CDMA 850--one or the other is active. Basically IDEN PTT would be available with voice when Sprint 1900 is available. When roaming on 850, you either can switch between just PTT (like hybrid phones do now when they don't have 1900 CDMA) or voice only. I could even imagine it being somewhat automated... when roaming on 850 the CDMA and IDEN radios would turn off or on as needed for calls/when the PTT button is pressed.

--Nat

That way you have full coverage

Well I can tell you the handoff would be no worse than sprint's now. EVERYTIME my sprint phone switchs to roam it drops the call. Iden does a better job in my experiance in fringe areas not to mention its 800mhz so its stronger overall. So what if drops when it switchs. If the cdma radio was set to check for 1900mhz just like Sprint phones do now and when it found one with a certain strenght then at that point check for Iden. Expensive?Yes!Easy? What is?Possible?Yes!
Point is people with Nextel are in Nextel coverage 98 percent of the time.This would just be to make that 2 percent a lot better by actually have a phone that works. Afterall that's what the whole phone game is about. It working

[cablewithaview]

That's what I was thinking, have some way of switching to roam and turning off the DC or something. Personally I would like to see an iDen based voice/ PTT and have the CDMA data. I wonder if you could work both voice/ data set up like that at the same time like GSM?

[503ducati]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...pecifications/

Motorola Opus One specifications

by Boy Genius on December 21st, 2009 at 11:48am

When we say we have specifications, boy, do we mean it. One of our connects has sent us the full rundown on Motorla’s Opus One (their first iDEN Android handset) that we revealed a little while back. The features on the device are actually pretty reasonable, and we’d imagine it to sell for a reasonable attractive price-point at release. The Motorola Opus One will run Android 1.5 with iDEN service enhancements, make use of a “Zeus” CPU, and will feature a 3 megapixel autofocus camera.
Detailed list of full specs after the breakage!

3.1″ hVGA 320×480 capacitative touchscreen display

3 megapixel autofocus camera with LED flash

Accelerometer

Proximity sensor

Wi-Fi 802.11b/g

Bluetooth

microSD card slot

2.5mm headset jack

Home, Menu, Back, Speaker buttons are capacitive buttons with haptic feedback

iDEN PTT & PTX

Android LBS which is integrated into the iDEN GPS engine

“Enterprise email”

Plastic-molded housing with some rubberized texture finishes

58mm in width, 118mm in length

100g weight

512MB Flash / 256MB of RAM

64k and 128k iDEN SIM card support

A-GPS

Motorola dual-mic technology noise-canceling for noisy enviroments

Flash Lite v3.1.x

Some of the preloaded apps include: corporate email client with ActiveSync support, MOTONAV navigation app, barcode scanner, and document viewer.

That’s what we have for you on the Motorola Opus One at this time. Not the most mind-blowing Android device, but with it being an iDEN device and all, we’ll cut it some slack and even say that it could do reasonably well at launch.

[wam]

I would like to get that. I wonder when the release date will be?