Please answer. Walmart can't keep the nokia e7 in stock. My wife has found a couple well priced that are unlocked. Can they made to be used with straight talk and if so, how does it get programmed if there is no card?
Ok first to start gsm phones will only work with the proper provisioned sims card. two i have tried that route on buying a nokia e71 from ebay and other websites saying its a straight talk phone. DO NOT BELIEVE IT!!!!! Those phones are clones or they have a bad ESN making the phone pretty much only good for parts. If you want to double check to see if your not passing up a good deal go ahead and check it. To do so you will need the ESN of the phone you are wanting to buy then contact straight talk and ask them to check that ESN number in there computer to make sure its ok and clear. If they say its not pulling up or its not in their system DO NOT BUY IT!!! it would be a waste of money. you can try other wal-marts go to walmart.com search e71 it will pull up the nokia e71 for straight talk you can check to see what stores have it in stock around your zip code or you can order it directly from straighttalk.com the only reason it seams high in price there is cause the first month of service is included in the price of the phone. If you buy the phone at walmart your still gonna pay 200 for the phone plus 45 for the month of service plus tax so its still 245 buck either way. So dont try to be cheap and waste money on a phone that may not work just get a real straight talk phone from walkmart or straight talk and hels you get a one year warranty with the phone from nokia (1yr manufacture warranty)
Thanks for the advice. They don't have them in a 50 mile radius around us so it just isn't available. When I was talking about the price I was talking about the one smart phone that straight talk still has that is basically $400. We want the Nokia but it just won't stay in stock which is why we looked at ebay. Thanks for the warning about sims and ESN issues.
I am confused, here in LA just like in other markets you can go and buy a verizon phone (CDMA) or go buy a AT&T phone (GSM) ? right?
so why can't I buy a GSM phone from Tracfone or net10 or StraighTalk and use it ? they buy airtime rights from both networks? correct?
ok let me have it educate a old fart.
no I'm not mad I'm just trying like hell to educate technical wisses like some of you on how "regular" folks think I still loveya
Straight Talk, an America Movil company (TracFone, Net10, etc.), started out with CDMA phones, exclusively on the Verizon network. You could not bring any other CDMA phones from anywhere else to use on their service, unlike Page Plus Communications. But you could take their CDMA phones and configure them to be used on certain other carriers or service providers. These phones have "C" as the last character of their model numbers.
More recently, they came out with GSM service, with a different set of phones (GSM, of course), mostly very basic, and they primarily used AT&T's network. But like the other America Movil companies' GSM service, they sometimes used T-Mobile's network. AM gets a better deal on service from T-Mobile than AT&T. There's a lot written here on HoFo how to assure you get service from the carrier that serves you best. Like other AM divisions, and unlike all other common GSM carriers, the GSM phones are not swappable or interchangeable through the use of the removable SIM card; not within divisions, not between divisions, and not with phones outside AM companies. These phones have a "G" as the last character of their model numbers.
And even more recently, Straight Talk introduced the two Nokia smart phones (models E71 & 6790), which opened up a whole new frontier: The SIM cards in these two phones CAN be removed and used in other non-America Movil GSM phones. Thus the attraction to buy either of the $200 phones for their SIM cards, and use them in the smart phone of your choice; THE AT&T SMARTPHONE OF YOUR CHOICE if you want 3G service. Much is written here on HoFo about the caveats of doing this; what works, what doesn't. Peruse the different threads for more on any number of subjects.
Why is it this way with America Movil? That's just the way they've set it up, for their idea of a better business plan. They want a primarily closed system. The fact that loopholes and/or weaknesses are found that allow you to circumvent some of their physical barriers is just something for our advantage, and those types of things may not be permanent. So all interested parties would be wise to read and learn.
Edit: They have not discontinued use of CDMA phones. Straight Talk still has both, but in certain areas the use and availability of CDMA phones has diminished or disappeared entirely, probably because ST wants you to use GSM wherever possible, likely so they can increase their profit margins.
Last edited by whacker; 03-01-2011 at 08:24 AM. Reason: clarification
If your idea is to do anything OTHER than just buy a ST phone from Walmart or ST and just use it as is; you had better do a lot of reading here on HO so you will learn where it can all go horribly wrong.
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@rtoledo2002 can i ask why you're tired of MetroPCS?
yes there are times when texting is better, but for the majority of the time it soots me better, besides I am around computers 24 hours a day so I have no need of one on my phone, getting the Samsung Caliber was fun for a week , then I gave it to the wife, who does NOT want to give it up , so she will stay with Metro for now. me and my son we are going the cheap route, finances are bad right now.
I never thought I would grow up and become a tight wad like my old man, but the bug is hitting me now