Verizon Unlimited Plan Shakeup

[Apheus]

It would appear that Verizon, in an effort to be more competitive, is dropping their prices on unlimited talk. I wonder how this affects Page Plus.

Unlimited Plan Prices

[zapjb]

Wow. Good things are a comin'! If as suggested Leap Wireless (LEAP) and MetroPCS (PCS) lower their prices then & only then do I think PPC will lower prices.

[almightyhoward]

Wow. Good things are a comin'! If as suggested Leap Wireless (LEAP) and MetroPCS (PCS) lower their prices then & only then do I think PPC will lower prices.

Metro PCS dropped their prices the first plan is now a flat $40.00 including all the taxes.

[zapjb]

Is that UTnT? If Metro hits a lower price point like $35 or $30 then I think PPC will match.

[Big Blue 023]

Prices look bottomed out . Verizon is probably just trying to hold its own in price points in the post paid market and the prepaid versions of its postpaid plans is a way to transition failed credit customers into postpaid eventually like how Tmobile does with Flexpay monthly/annual and postpaid. The penalty is $5 more a month, different add on optons, reduced phone options, no subsidized handsets and a different tier of customer service priority. Att just made postpaid plan slashes too in less then a day after Verizon annouced their plans but their Pick Your Plan prepaid/Flexpay type plans are still overpriced as much as ever. That tells you where the priority of the big two/Att/Verizon lie.

The mvnos, prepaid is just extra money for them vs. the little two, Sprint and Tmobile who rely very heavily on prepaid /Flexpay type customers.

If anything, I see Verizon's price slashing on prepaid as a possible benefit to smaller Verizon mvnos like Mingo who can ask for better wholesale rates to compete (Verizon prepaid unlimited is 74.99 vs Mingo's 74.99 plan which offers 1300 anytime minutes/3000 night/weekend minutes and 89.99 for 2000 anytime/3000 night/weekend minutes ,Mingo has no unlimited option at this time).

Granted, Mingo's monthly plans are on the FULL postpaid Verizon coverage network vs. Verizon Prepaid being on the prepaid coverage version. But customers see price and units offered for the price before they read the fine print.

And no, different class of pricing then the bottom priced mvnos like ST or PPC, but unlimited prepaid is neither Verizon prepaid nor Mingo's strongpoint (unlike Metro , Cricket , Straight Talk and now PPC).

There will be a two tiered pricing range in prepaid unlimited. The rock bottom prices will come from the companies that specialize in unlimited only like Metro/Cricket and other carriers, especially the brand name ones like Tmobile, Verizon and Att prepaid will charge more for everything.
Tmobile Flexpay monthly is 49.99 for only unlimited talk. Att Gophone is $60 for unlimited talk/text and Verizon is 74.99 for just unlimited talk. Most prepaid only unlimited brands either give more for the same price points, or are priced less if it is only a single feature like talk.
(Simple Mobile has talk/text/intl text/20 megs for 49.99, Air Voice/H20 is talk/text/intl text for $50, Boost is talk/text/web for $50, Straight Talk is
talk/text/web/411 for $45 and Net10 Unlimited is talk/text/web/411 for $50. Cricket and Metro are even lower. )

Only VM is at postpaid level prices/featues with talk only for 49.99.

[joako]

Metro's old plans were a mess. Old lowest plan was IIRC $30/month (or $35?) unlimited LOCAL ONLY with NO callerid, voicemail, call waiting, etc. In addition to $30/month you would pay approx $8/month in taxes + $3 fee to pay your bill.

[teyong]

We've discussed already here...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1610618

[Extraordinary]

awesome! Now AT&T needs to join in!

I bet Cricket & Metro are going to do something too... they gotta...

[Joe12304]

awesome! Now AT&T needs to join in!

I bet Cricket & Metro are going to do something too... they gotta...

at&t DID join in. They have matched VZW's new plans.

[fonezfonz]

at&t DID join in. They have matched VZW's new plans.

True. On the postpaid side, but Att hasn't touched their outmoded prepaid Gophone Pick Your Plans . Which they really need to do . Vz's prepaid monthly plans and the Tmobile Flexpay monthly Even More Plus plans kick Att's Pick Your Plans up and down the city block (69.95 for 650 minutes , unlimited m2m/nights/weekends do not a deal make in this competitive environment). Hopefully , Att will catch up in that hybrid plan area. Their $60 talk/text (though on a lesser version of the network) already looks better to the naked eye. And Att did basically just ape Verizon's postpaid plans.

I supposed it's only a matter of time before their prepaid hybrid plans fall in line. They need a upgrade bad. It's only been a day. But if Att is smart, they'll update their Pick Your Plans soon to fall in line with their postpaid cuts.

[Apheus]

We've discussed already here...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1610618

Actually, no. This is new and completely unrelated information.

[almightyhoward]

Is that UTnT? If Metro hits a lower price point like $35 or $30 then I think PPC will match.

Yes it is $40.00 flat for unlimited talk,text and internet.

[almightyhoward]

Metro's old plans were a mess. Old lowest plan was IIRC $30/month (or $35?) unlimited LOCAL ONLY with NO callerid, voicemail, call waiting, etc. In addition to $30/month you would pay approx $8/month in taxes + $3 fee to pay your bill.

Metro revamped their old line with $40 flat UnTnT. and no more first month free.

[almightyhoward]

Prices look bottomed out . Verizon is probably just trying to hold its own in price points in the post paid market and the prepaid versions of its postpaid plans is a way to transition failed credit customers into postpaid eventually like how Tmobile does with Flexpay monthly/annual and postpaid. The penalty is $5 more a month, different add on optons, reduced phone options, no subsidized handsets and a different tier of customer service priority. Att just made postpaid plan slashes too in less then a day after Verizon annouced their plans but their Pick Your Plan prepaid/Flexpay type plans are still overpriced as much as ever. That tells you where the priority of the big two/Att/Verizon lie.

The mvnos, prepaid is just extra money for them vs. the little two, Sprint and Tmobile who rely very heavily on prepaid /Flexpay type customers.

If anything, I see Verizon's price slashing on prepaid as a possible benefit to smaller Verizon mvnos like Mingo who can ask for better wholesale rates to compete (Verizon prepaid unlimited is 74.99 vs Mingo's 74.99 plan which offers 1300 anytime minutes/3000 night/weekend minutes and 89.99 for 2000 anytime/3000 night/weekend minutes ,Mingo has no unlimited option at this time).

Granted, Mingo's monthly plans are on the FULL postpaid Verizon coverage network vs. Verizon Prepaid being on the prepaid coverage version. But customers see price and units offered for the price before they read the fine print.

And no, different class of pricing then the bottom priced mvnos like ST or PPC, but unlimited prepaid is neither Verizon prepaid nor Mingo's strongpoint (unlike Metro , Cricket , Straight Talk and now PPC).

There will be a two tiered pricing range in prepaid unlimited. The rock bottom prices will come from the companies that specialize in unlimited only like Metro/Cricket and other carriers, especially the brand name ones like Tmobile, Verizon and Att prepaid will charge more for everything.
Tmobile Flexpay monthly is 49.99 for only unlimited talk. Att Gophone is $60 for unlimited talk/text and Verizon is 74.99 for just unlimited talk. Most prepaid only unlimited brands either give more for the same price points, or are priced less if it is only a single feature like talk.
(Simple Mobile has talk/text/intl text/20 megs for 49.99, Air Voice/H20 is talk/text/intl text for $50, Boost is talk/text/web for $50, Straight Talk is
talk/text/web/411 for $45 and Net10 Unlimited is talk/text/web/411 for $50. Cricket and Metro are even lower. )

Only VM is at postpaid level prices/featues with talk only for 49.99.

Excellent post, this is how I like to read posts on the forum.
I sell private label plans on the full postpaid platform, but most customers just love the PPC $39.95 monthly plans with the unlimited features.

[johncase3]

There are actually very few new VZW handsets that qualify for the new $69 price point so it's kind of a joke to advertise it. Almost all VZW handset now require a $10-$30 data plan so the effective minimum price point is not $69.

If yoiu hearts desire is a Samsung Smooth, then yeah, it's $69.