will mobilicity have the coverage issues as wind does

[kEiThZ]

Pretty illogical thinking,Orascom can be as corrupt as they wish outside our country with no corporate integrity as long as you get lower rates in Canada on the irrational belief that corruption can't happen here and although you're entitled to your ridiculous comments I would question your character having said this...

What is irrational is expecting that we'll impose different standards on a case-by-case basis. We've had this discussion before and you've always dodged the question. Again, I'll ask. Why only Orascom? Why not require any company investing in Canada to have a squeaky clean record outside Canada? Are you okay with Chinese state owned companies investing in oil patch? So you have a problem with corruption but have no issue with companies tied to government which kill people?

Orascom is not typical and the level of deception goes way beyond anyone else which has been documented over and over again across the world.

Prove it. You cite Zimbabwe as proof, completely ignoring the fact that Zimbabwe itself is run by a thoroughly corrupt government that will say and do anything. So who's right? Orascom or Mugabe? And then there's Algeria. Do you have any clue about the bad blood between Egypt and Algeria, and how both countries have been targeting businesses from the other country as a sort of war by proxy?

If Globalive had any integrity themselves they would have found more reputable backers instead of grabbing only what they can and if not why connect with wolves unless you're a wolf yourself.

A ridiculous and baseless argument. Globalive is listed as one of the best managed companies in Canada. If you are going to suggest they don't have integrity, please back up your assertions with proof.

I'd suggest that the huge capital requirement combined with our small market, and highly restrictive regulatory environment that's hostile to foreign investment probably had to do with the fact that Globalive only had Orascom as a potential partner. I will fully support your arguments, if you have a shred of evidence that there was a single other partner.

Otherwise, once again same crap repeated in another thread.

Furthermore,how do you know if I'm not a non-white person ...

You've claimed before to be European....

...and please don't make an even bigger fool out of yourself by claiming you speak for all visible minorities with your obvious hidden anger...

Please pull out the quote where I claimed to speak for all minorities. I've claimed that the ads are offensive in my opinion and puzzling and offensive to my friends and family members. I don't claim to speak for anybody else.

...if anything I didn't see many white people in those PM ads almost as if none exist in both Montreal/Toronto considering if anyone they should be the ones claiming racism and discrimination first by being excluded.

So why are you arguing with me then? This is exactly what I stated before, when I suggested they should have a diverse group of people in their ads. The fact that they only use immigrants and don't even show a cellphone in their ads at all is boneheaded at best. When you use immigrants as billboards across which to write unlimited it borders on the verge of offensive....if all you are using is immigrants.

As I said before,it was a pathetic concept based on lousy advertising/marketing and not racism/discrimination...if that is what you see then maybe you're the one with issues as I said before and unfortunately there are many people like that regardless of race/nationality/etc.

Funny thing also,you're a government worker supposedly and a believer in justice,however I've never heard you say anything about Wind being a NATIONAL carrier and not showing respect for French Canadians outside of Quebec by not promoting their service fully in our other official language...I guess you only see things you want to see and those that don't agree are simply bigots.

Does any other carrier advertise in French and English for every single ad campaign outside Quebec? Heck, no company runs ads in both official languages in any part of this country, including Quebec. Why should Wind? Especially when they aren't running in Quebec. More than likely Wind can and should do exactly what the other carriers do and run ads in French where appropriate. For example in eastern Ontario, parts of northern ontario, manitoba and New Brunswick. If any business is only operating in Toronto and Alberta, running ads in French would be a waste of resources. If anything, they should consider running ads on Omni in other languages!

I have seen French Wind bus shelter ads in Franco neighbourhoods in Ottawa though, so I don't think they are English only. Just 'cause you don't come across French ads doesn't mean they aren't there. Moreover, I would say an ad that says nothing but Wind Mobile and lists the URL is pretty universal isn't it?

Also I did not praise PM and if people are not praising Wind it is because of what they have done so far or who they are,in fact before giving opinions maybe you should actually try the service first unless you work for the company and only after a few months of use...I have done nothing to lock this thread and if you debated like this in a truly open forum you wouldn't last one minute making this whole process useless to listen to you.

Maybe someone should direct this back to the MobiliCity topic!

I have flagged the thread and will keep doing so for every thread and discussion that gets hijacked by whining about Orascom or Wind. I see this thread went off-course at post 14. Let the mods decide if a lock is warranted. If you want to talk about Mobilicity, then stay on topic and stop discussing Wind or PM's marketing.

As for the open forum, thank goodness moderated forums exist so that anarchists like yourself don't degrade every civil discourse into a monkey circus, crap flinging contest. If what you've done on the Wind Community forums (which you openly admit to abusing) is proof, moderation is required everywhere you go, simply because you can't behave yourself. May I remind you that your first interaction with me on the Wind Community Forums, you suggested that I was a homosexual who wanted to have sex with you. Is that what you like about open forums, that you can trash talk other people? And if you do like open forums why do you keep complaining about Wind's site being amateur.

As for trying the service, when Wind reaches me, I'll be in...and I'll even try out Mobilicity if their plans are good. I am only loyal to the company which gives me the best deal.

[callmejim]

Everyone ignore the trolls I am, last week he would not reply because he said he promised the mods. Ignore them and hopefully they will blow away in the wind.

[live_strong]

kEiThZ, JustAWiseGuy, and callmejim,

you are all one post away from a ban.
if you can can not contribute to the community in a positive manner, please refrain from posting.

this is your FINAL warning.

[damojo2]

Looks like they should be ready for launching soon yes?
http://mobilicity.blackberry.com/

[JustAWiseGuy]

Looks like they should be ready for launching soon yes?
http://mobilicity.blackberry.com/

Good news Bro...should be interesting!

[2000impreza]

Looks like they should be ready for launching soon yes?
http://mobilicity.blackberry.com/

Any guesses as to which BB devices they will be offering at launch? I would be surprised if it was NOT the Bold 9700.

[damojo2]

Any guesses as to which BB devices they will be offering at launch? I would be surprised if it was NOT the Bold 9700.

Well since they're using AWS, more than definately they'll offer the Bold 9700. And MAYBE, the Pearl 9100. Bold 9700 is much more of a sure thing as the 9100 isn't even announced yet.

[ykz]

Looks like they should be ready for launching soon yes?
http://mobilicity.blackberry.com/

If it's true that Mobilicity started testing the network this week, this makes sense. BB users need access to the RIIM servers if they are going to test the equipment and network connectivity.

[artbungler]

Well since they're using AWS, more than definately they'll offer the Bold 9700. And MAYBE, the Pearl 9100. Bold 9700 is much more of a sure thing as the 9100 isn't even announced yet.

Maybe the 8910 too, but I doubt it. They may get it eventually though.

[Jonavin]

It's pretty safe to say they will NOT have the 8910. All 3G models starts with a 9 and the current rumour on the 8910 states that it's a 2G Curve. So no 8910.

9700 is pretty much guaranteed, 9100 is a likely possibility, and if you want to throw a random guess, maybe the new slider.

[kEiThZ]

Looks like they should be ready for launching soon yes?
http://mobilicity.blackberry.com/

Well, by now it's pretty obvious that they just have to be launching soon. But I don't know if it any special indicator to have BIS up.

[damojo2]

Well, by now it's pretty obvious that they just have to be launching soon. But I don't know if it any special indicator to have BIS up.

Well like someone said above, to test out RIM data, they kinda need BIS up and running. Now what kind of surprises me is that they're still on BIS 2.x and not 3.0 even though their launch is most definitely going to happen after March 28th (BIS 3.0 roll out date). What would be the point of using the older BIS to test if they aren't going to launch within the next 7-10 days.

[JustAWiseGuy]

What is irrational is expecting that we'll impose different standards on a case-by-case basis. We've had this discussion before and you've always dodged the question. Again, I'll ask. Why only Orascom? Why not require any company investing in Canada to have a squeaky clean record outside Canada? Are you okay with Chinese state owned companies investing in oil patch? So you have a problem with corruption but have no issue with companies tied to government which kill people?



Prove it. You cite Zimbabwe as proof, completely ignoring the fact that Zimbabwe itself is run by a thoroughly corrupt government that will say and do anything. So who's right? Orascom or Mugabe? And then there's Algeria. Do you have any clue about the bad blood between Egypt and Algeria, and how both countries have been targeting businesses from the other country as a sort of war by proxy?



A ridiculous and baseless argument. Globalive is listed as one of the best managed companies in Canada. If you are going to suggest they don't have integrity, please back up your assertions with proof.

I'd suggest that the huge capital requirement combined with our small market, and highly restrictive regulatory environment that's hostile to foreign investment probably had to do with the fact that Globalive only had Orascom as a potential partner. I will fully support your arguments, if you have a shred of evidence that there was a single other partner.

Otherwise, once again same crap repeated in another thread.




You've claimed before to be European....



Please pull out the quote where I claimed to speak for all minorities. I've claimed that the ads are offensive in my opinion and puzzling and offensive to my friends and family members. I don't claim to speak for anybody else.



So why are you arguing with me then? This is exactly what I stated before, when I suggested they should have a diverse group of people in their ads. The fact that they only use immigrants and don't even show a cellphone in their ads at all is boneheaded at best. When you use immigrants as billboards across which to write unlimited it borders on the verge of offensive....if all you are using is immigrants.

As I said before,it was a pathetic concept based on lousy advertising/marketing and not racism/discrimination...if that is what you see then maybe you're the one with issues as I said before and unfortunately there are many people like that regardless of race/nationality/etc.

Does any other carrier advertise in French and English for every single ad campaign outside Quebec? Heck, no company runs ads in both official languages in any part of this country, including Quebec. Why should Wind? Especially when they aren't running in Quebec. More than likely Wind can and should do exactly what the other carriers do and run ads in French where appropriate. For example in eastern Ontario, parts of northern ontario, manitoba and New Brunswick. If any business is only operating in Toronto and Alberta, running ads in French would be a waste of resources. If anything, they should consider running ads on Omni in other languages!

I have seen French Wind bus shelter ads in Franco neighbourhoods in Ottawa though, so I don't think they are English only. Just 'cause you don't come across French ads doesn't mean they aren't there. Moreover, I would say an ad that says nothing but Wind Mobile and lists the URL is pretty universal isn't it?



I have flagged the thread and will keep doing so for every thread and discussion that gets hijacked by whining about Orascom or Wind. I see this thread went off-course at post 14. Let the mods decide if a lock is warranted. If you want to talk about Mobilicity, then stay on topic and stop discussing Wind or PM's marketing.

As for the open forum, thank goodness moderated forums exist so that anarchists like yourself don't degrade every civil discourse into a monkey circus, crap flinging contest. If what you've done on the Wind Community forums (which you openly admit to abusing) is proof, moderation is required everywhere you go, simply because you can't behave yourself. May I remind you that your first interaction with me on the Wind Community Forums, you suggested that I was a homosexual who wanted to have sex with you. Is that what you like about open forums, that you can trash talk other people? And if you do like open forums why do you keep complaining about Wind's site being amateur.

As for trying the service, when Wind reaches me, I'll be in...and I'll even try out Mobilicity if their plans are good. I am only loyal to the company which gives me the best deal.

Unfortunately I'm not allowed to respond to this...total hogwash in regards to your opinions...I'll just let history prove me right eventually!I just hope Mobilicity launches soon...I'm sure they will be better than both Wind and PM put together.

[ijcy]

What is irrational is expecting that we'll impose different standards on a case-by-case basis. We've had this discussion before and you've always dodged the question. Again, I'll ask. Why only Orascom? Why not require any company investing in Canada to have a squeaky clean record outside Canada? Are you okay with Chinese state owned companies investing in oil patch? So you have a problem with corruption but have no issue with companies tied to government which kill people?



Prove it. You cite Zimbabwe as proof, completely ignoring the fact that Zimbabwe itself is run by a thoroughly corrupt government that will say and do anything. So who's right? Orascom or Mugabe? And then there's Algeria. Do you have any clue about the bad blood between Egypt and Algeria, and how both countries have been targeting businesses from the other country as a sort of war by proxy?



A ridiculous and baseless argument. Globalive is listed as one of the best managed companies in Canada. If you are going to suggest they don't have integrity, please back up your assertions with proof.

I'd suggest that the huge capital requirement combined with our small market, and highly restrictive regulatory environment that's hostile to foreign investment probably had to do with the fact that Globalive only had Orascom as a potential partner. I will fully support your arguments, if you have a shred of evidence that there was a single other partner.

Otherwise, once again same crap repeated in another thread.




You've claimed before to be European....



Please pull out the quote where I claimed to speak for all minorities. I've claimed that the ads are offensive in my opinion and puzzling and offensive to my friends and family members. I don't claim to speak for anybody else.



So why are you arguing with me then? This is exactly what I stated before, when I suggested they should have a diverse group of people in their ads. The fact that they only use immigrants and don't even show a cellphone in their ads at all is boneheaded at best. When you use immigrants as billboards across which to write unlimited it borders on the verge of offensive....if all you are using is immigrants.

Unfortunately I'm not allowed to respond to this...total hogwash in regards to your opinions...I'll just let history prove me right eventually!I just hope Mobilicity launches soon...I'm sure they will be better than both Wind and PM put together.

AMEN to that!

[JustAWiseGuy]

AMEN to that!

Good to see you are religious Bro...