Just got a phone through Wirefly, can I activate it on Page Plus?

[plmiller0905]

My sister just got a Droid and Verizon Service from Wirefly about 3 weeks ago. Well she's thinking about getting the Incredible but if she doesn't get that she was thinking about switching to Page Plus from Verizon.

She is still within the 30 day period Verizon gives you to cancel your service without being assessed the etf. However, she is past the 15 day period that Wirefly gives you to return the phone.

With that being said, if she decided to cancel her verizon service and switch to page plus, would Wirefly put a block on the esn or blacklist the phone until she paid the fees for canceling the (wirefly) contract before 6 months? On the wirefly contract itself, it states that they (Wirefly) will just charge the credit you used when the order was made.

Note: She contacted Verizon and they said that as long as she cancels within their 30 day period they (Verizon) would not block the esn as long as she pays for what she has used.

[zapjb]

Unless the full price is paid for the phone it'll be banned. How else do you think Wirefly stays in business. Otherwise everybody do what you propose & they'd BK.

[plmiller0905]

Unless the full price is paid for the phone it'll be banned. How else do you think Wirefly stays in business. Otherwise everybody do what you propose & they'd BK.

So wirefly is capable of placing a block on the esn? I understand what you're saying and I would also assume that. However wirefly is not a cellphone service provider so how can they ban your phone? That's like if I "actually" go to some authorized Verizon cellphone store (like wirefly) and get a phone. They have no right to ban a phone / esn. In addition the Verizon Rep we spoke to yesterday stated that she didn't believe or think that wirefly could block esn's or ban a phone. She said that that is something that would have to go through Verizon. I read in another found that wirefly will just bill you for the price of the phone but they did not mention anything about wirefly blocking a esn or banning a phone.

I will call my sister and ask her to call wirefly and ask them. But the only thing with that, is everybody gives you a different answer everytime you call.

[tallship]

Unless the full price is paid for the phone it'll be banned. How else do you think Wirefly stays in business. Otherwise everybody do what you propose & they'd BK.

hm...

I had this customer who was with Verizon for about a year and a half. He had planned to switch over to PagePlus, but had to wait a while longer for his contract to expire.

In the meantime, as a trucker, he used a Verizon broadband wireless card as part of his service too, and when sleeping in truck stops would just use Wi-fi instead to download and watch movies.

When he ended up going on unemployment and living at home full time, he stupidly ran up an $1100.00 bill that wasn't quite due yet, due to his un-modified surfing habits, yet he was using all of that bandwidth with Verizon.

He was very afraid of losing his longtime phone number and couldn't pay the bill as all he had was an unemployment check coming in.

So I ported his number on that same phone over to PagePlus and he's been fine for several months now - the caveat I gave him was to make sure we do the switch before you go into collections.

Since the phone is now on PagePlus, along with his phone number via LNP, I don't see anyway that Verizon can do more than call the phone number of record and harass him incessantly (Which they do LOL).

But at least he's presumably untouchable now, because neither the phone, nor the MDN are part of Verizon now -it belongs to someone else's service.

The funniest thing was, he gave me a call one night, about a month after we did the port, to tell me he had just received a text message from Verizon telling him that this would be the last message he receives, and that his phone service is now cut off until he pays his whopper bill (I'm paraprasing, of course).

It's been over six months and his service is still running fine.

I could be wrong, or missing something here, but I think that in order for Verizon to blacklist the phone, it actually needs to be one of their phones in the first place, not someone else's - in this case, PagePlus.

[plmiller0905]

Just wanted to let everyone know what the turnout was with the situation.

Well long story short, my sister contacted verizon and tried to disconnect the service but then the Verizon rep said that they couldn't waive the $350 until she returned the Droid back to Wirefly and Wirefly notifies Verizon that the phone was returned. I got on the phone and told them that the phone did not come from Verizon and that when we spoke to Wirefly in regards to the phone, they said that we would be charge $300 whether we returned it or not because she had already went far and beyond the 30 minutes on the phone.

Once I reminded the Rep that the phone did not come from verizon, The Rep looked up more information in regards to getting a phone from a 3rd party and canceling service. When she found it she said that it stated, "When a customer get's a phone from a 3rd party, the agreement for the phone is between the 3rd party and the customer. Verizon is not involved. If the customer is still within his or her 30 day period, the etf will be waived" Therefore, because my sister was still with Verizon's 30 day period the Verizon Rep fully waived the $350 etf and she kept the phone.

And guess what...She's hooked up with Page Plus now....All Done!

Thanks for everybody help with all this.

[tallship]

Well long story short...

...the Verizon rep said that they couldn't waive the $350

I got on the phone and told them...

The Rep looked up more information...

...Verizon Rep fully waived the $350 etf

And guess what...She's hooked up with Page Plus now....All Done!

Hey that's super! Great to hear about a happy ending - now if we can just get your sister to curtail her minutes

Anyway, great news. Happy for you, and glad it all worked out

[icebook]

Well long story short, my sister contacted verizon and tried to disconnect the service but then the Verizon rep said
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And guess what...She's hooked up with Page Plus now....All Done!

The verizon customer service rep signed you up on Pageplus service?

[icebook]

You know you can avoid this entire problem if you just pay wirefly the amount they subsidized the phone for on top of the verizon subsidy.

Its probably around $500
No matter what you are going to own them the money anyway. And not paying it will have consequences of some kind.

[plmiller0905]

You know you can avoid this entire problem if you just pay wirefly the amount they subsidized the phone for on top of the verizon subsidy.

Its probably around $500
No matter what you are going to own them the money anyway. And not paying it will have consequences of some kind.

I should've stated this before but if Wirefly does bill her, she's definitely going to pay them, no questions about that. She's going to pay them next time she get's paid.

She's just wondering if the esn will be clear so that she can activate it on Page Plus or would she have to pay whatever Wirefy's first before she can do anything.

[wirelessdreams3]

no they will let verizon know of this and it will be blacklisted . plus i think wirefly charges a 300 thing for cancelling . on top of a etf you could incur from verizon after the 30 days

[plmiller0905]

no they will let verizon know of this and it will be blacklisted . plus i think wirefly charges a 300 thing for cancelling . on top of a etf you could incur from verizon after the 30 days

Well if that's the case and since she's still well within Verizon's 30 day period, I'm going to tell her to cancel now and just pay the $300 to wirefly. Instead of canceling in like 2 months and playing Wirefly $300 + verizon $375 etf + plus your bill...that's a lot.

So I guess it's best to get out now before it's too late and she really has a high bill.

[plmiller0905]

no they will let verizon know of this and it will be blacklisted . plus i think wirefly charges a 300 thing for cancelling . on top of a etf you could incur from verizon after the 30 days

You were right.. : -) I just looked it up on the wirefly website this is what it states:

"Wirefly promises you savings in the form of instant discounts with no rebates or gimmicks when you sign up for wireless carrier service. Delivering on this promise means that you must agree to maintain your agreement for a minimum of 6 months after activation. Deactivating your phone, or downgrading features or the rate plan, may lead to additional charges.

When you sign up for wireless carrier service through Wirefly, we discount your phone purchase price by an Equipment Discount amount ranging from $200 to $300. By ordering through Wirefly, you agree to repay this discount if, during the 181 days after your new equipment is activated, if you:

* Fail to pay your balance due to your carrier each month
* Disconnect this line of service
* Transfer this equipment to another line of service
* Change your carrier service rate plan to a lower monthly service rate plan
* Deactivate the email/data feature if one was required at the point of purchase
* Transfer/port an existing phone number from another account if this is a new line of service
* Replace an existing account with this account if this is a new line of service
* Return or exchange your phone and it is not in its original, new condition with no more than 30 minutes of usage

If you break any of these contract provisions, except as a result of a documented service quality issue related to the carrier service, you authorize us to charge your credit card in repayment of the Equipment Discount.
Pricing Errors"

So I guess she'll be paying the $300 which is still a low price considering if she wait till after the 30 days.

Even if she did want to return it, you can't if you used over 30 minutes of service which is absolutely ridiculous, but oh well.

Once she pay's this do it takes days before the esn is clear or does it happen right away?

[wirelessdreams3]

if she doesnt pay that money first wirefly will be notified . if i was you i would just go to the verizon store and buy 1 outright . 499. isnt it maybe less but shes looking @ 300 plus what ever she has spent already

[plmiller0905]

if she doesnt pay that money first wirefly will be notified . if i was you i would just go to the verizon store and buy 1 outright . 499. isnt it maybe less but shes looking @ 300 plus what ever she has spent already

I agree she should have went to the Verizon store and just bought one. But the Droid she has is still basically brand new. She only had it for 3 weeks so if she cancel her service and pay the $300 for the phone that's better than paying $499.99 and about the bill, well she got and paid her first bill one week ago she paid it in full $161. It wasn't due till May 5 so I think they may actually owe her money or maybe not.

But anyway once she pay the $300 to wirefly and whatever usage fees that verizon charges her, the phones her's and she can get hooked up with page plus? It may not sound great but if this is how it works out she will be happy. It can be a lot worse if it was past her 30 days.

Out of all this and seeing what she's going through, I will never get a phone through letstalk.com or wirefly. :-)

[Quizologist]

I agree she should have went to the Verizon store and just bought one. But the Droid she has is still basically brand new. She only had it for 3 weeks so if she cancel her service and pay the $300 for the phone that's better than paying $499.99 and about the bill, well she got and paid her first bill one week ago she paid it in full $161. It wasn't due till May 5 so I think they may actually owe her money or maybe not.

But anyway once she pay the $300 to wirefly and whatever usage fees that verizon charges her, the phones her's and she can get hooked up with page plus? It may not sound great but if this is how it works out she will be happy. It can be a lot worse if it was past her 30 days.

Out of all this and seeing what she's going through, I will never get a phone through letstalk.com or wirefly. :-)

You asked about Verizon putting a hold on the MEID.
She has paid Verizon $161 which typically is a prorated amount and the next month in advance. If it includes the next month, she will get a refund of that amount. Once she cancels with Verizon they are out of the picture.
Wirefly will be notified of the cancellation, however that may take a few days or weeks, and they will bill for their contracted amount of $300.00.
As soon as the vzw account is closed check the MEID to be clear and activate on PPC. It should be that simple.