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    Clear & Intel Amend Deal Allowing for LTE instead of WiMax

    Clearwire and Intel have revised a technology deal that forbade the WiMax service provider from using any other technology, and Clearwire is already talking with equipment vendors about how it might adopt LTE (Long-Term Evolution) for its network.

    http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...ntel_deal.html

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    Clearwire: Clearing the Decks for LTE?

    They say it, and we believe it: Right now, for the foreseeable future, Clearwire Corp. (Nasdaq: CLWR) is a WiMAX company, selling a WiMAX-based 4G service that by all accounts is doing quite well. But the company’s potential to add Long Term Evolution (LTE) services to its portfolio increased in probability Wednesday, with the revelation of the reversal of a legal deal with Intel that had previously prohibited Clearwire from offering anything except WiMAX until late in 2011.

    Since LTE equipment still isn’t even available in commercial volumes, it’s still early days to talk about any Clearwire-to-LTE move. But the noise over such a strategy may raise in volume following Wednesday’s quarterly earnings conference call, when Clearwire CEO Bill Morrow said that the company’s previous deal with major investor Intel — which effectively would have kept Clearwire from launching any services other than WiMAX until about 2012 — had been renegotiated, and has been replaced with a structure that is much more flexible, and will allow Clearwire to move more quickly to LTE should LTE-based services and devices (like say, an LTE iPhone) take off.

    While it’s going to ride the WiMAX train as long as it can, Clearwire and its partners aren’t ignoring the obvious market momentum behind the still-developing LTE standard. In fact, Clearwire CEO Bill Morrow has publicly floated the idea of harmonizing the technologies in the future, under a hybrid 4G standard that could provide for economies of scale on all fronts. Given the remote possibility of that happening, the Intel re-negotiation is a sign that Clearwire is also already taking steps to ensure it can move to LTE just as fast as any other provider, maybe even faster than some others.

    What makes Clearwire and LTE such an interesting discussion is the probable ease with which the company could add LTE services to its portfolio. (Unlike Stacey H at GigaOM, I don’t think this is necessarily an either-or-game.) Given its huge spectrum position, Clearwire has enough assets to build an LTE network side-by-side with its WiMAX network — unlike AT&T and Verizon, who are already talking about repurposing spectrum from 2G and 3G to make room for 4G.

    In terms of network infrastructure, both WiMAX and LTE are IP-based, so it’s a guess that much of Clearwire’s core network equipment could handle both types of traffic. Responding to questions about LTE costs on the call, Clearwire was coy but did note that of a typical site build, the portion associated with radio-specific equipment represents between 10 and 15 percent of costs — so in theory Clearwire could build itself an LTE network for a fraction of the cost of a greenfield provider starting from scratch.

    There are of course many details and questions to work through — such as the fact that Clearwire’s spectrum at 2.5 GHz is much different from the 700 MHz spectrum Verizon and AT&T will be using for their planned LTE deployments. But with big LTE backers Samsung, Huawei and Cisco in Clearwire’s corner, it’s safe to assume smart people are already looking into such challenges. Another note from the call today: Clearwire announced “vendor financing deals” with two of its infrastructure partners — perhaps a sweetener now to move to LTE later?
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    Very interesting. Spending 10 to 15% of the cost of the network build sounds a lot better and cheaper than building a network from scratch. Sounds like Clear clearly thought this one out, no pun intended.

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    A little off topic, maybe. I am going to a Verizon LTE demonstration event early next month. They are supposed to do a live demo of LTE. I think I'll take my laptop and clear usb modem and compare the two. My Verizon rep said that LTE should launch here in Houston by the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlongjr
    A little off topic, maybe. I am going to a Verizon LTE demonstration event early next month. They are supposed to do a live demo of LTE. I think I'll take my laptop and clear usb modem and compare the two. My Verizon rep said that LTE should launch here in Houston by the end of the year.
    I'm positive the LTE demo will go extremely well given the "lab environment" . The real observations will occur when a significant number of their 90 million subs are on it. Even then it should perform better than present day WiMAX. However that comes with metered usage costs for consumers according to their CEO.

    Personally if given the choice, a perfect solution:

    - is truly high speed

    - is truly mobile (built in or pocket router)

    - is truly unlimited

    - is available contract free

    - is cheaper than present day 3G

    - is my only internet service provider

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlongjr
    A little off topic, maybe. I am going to a Verizon LTE demonstration event early next month. They are supposed to do a live demo of LTE. I think I'll take my laptop and clear usb modem and compare the two. My Verizon rep said that LTE should launch here in Houston by the end of the year.
    yep - that demo will undoubtedly pull down 45mbps+, even though Verizon has already stated that they expect speeds to be 5-12mbps. That's what WiMax delivers already.

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    It will be interesting to see never the less. I'll post what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlongjr
    It will be interesting to see never the less. I'll post what happens.
    please do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reuthermonkey
    yep - that demo will undoubtedly pull down 45mbps+, even though Verizon has already stated that they expect speeds to be 5-12mbps. That's what WiMax delivers already.
    WiMAX delivers close to that today. Sprint is advertising 3-6Mbps with bursts to 10Mbps.

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    The question I'm left with is: if Clearwire is going to continue being a WiMAX company for the foreseeable future, why change the agreement with Intel? November 2011 isn't that far away. The change in the agreement makes it appear likely that they'll want to switch away from WiMAX before then. If they decide to go LTE, what will happen to EVO customers? Will they remain with limited coverage?

    Also, won't a 10-15% increase in network costs put them at a disadvantage against Verizon and AT&T who won't be building one 4G technology and then switching to another? As their CEO said, they do have to replace the radio interface which will also take time as they go around to all the cell sites.

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    It seems more like, lets keep our options open or maybe they would like testing a LTE network as early as 2011.

    Of course they would have to wisely do this switch if they do in regards of people that will be buying wimax phones this year.
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    no need to worry.......
    yet i am sure there is reason.... and until they halt wimax build, out dont worry
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    It seems to me that they would like their options open. Let's say that they want to raise private capital or maybe even have T-Mobile or another company invest, but part of the conditions would be that they use LTE. They want to be able to say to those potential investors that yes there's nothing prohibiting them from switching to LTE if that company or investment group would invest in them.

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    Regardless of the direction they take the build out won't stop although the effect on existing customers who purchased equipment would be a concern.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dnicekid
    no need to worry.......
    yet i am sure there is reason.... and until they halt wimax build, out dont worry

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    If Clear(Sprint) moves to Long Term Evolution technology, will their "2.6GHz TD-LTE" network be compatible with Europe's (e.g. Sweden's TeliaSonera) 2.6 GHz LTE networks?

    If so, this could generate a greater economy of scale for Sprint when procuring handsets.

    ( 2.6 GHz seems to be like it will be the most deployed frequency of LTE networks in Europe. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by offthegrid
    Regardless of the direction they take the build out won't stop although the effect on existing customers who purchased equipment would be a concern.
    They will probably run the two networks side by side for a little bit with probably some good incentives to switch.

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