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Thread: Motorola Droid Xtreme MB810 (Shadow) Pre-Release Thread Part 2 - Information Only

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post

    So where is the real argument against MotoBLUR?
    Because its not necessary. Froyo (2.2) provides you with everything you need.


    http://gizmodo.com/5558101/androids-...e-google-phone

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    There is only one, true reason why hardware manufacturers add their own custom software and it's defined in two words: planned obsolescence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhill26 View Post
    Let's see what it is like before we praise it. I like stock android and am ok with Sense. I don't like Blur and shouldn't be force to have to try it.
    No one is FORCING you to try it.Don't think you will like it, don't buy it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty_lite
    To be fair, there really isn't much evidence to support that software overlays slow development. It took Google about 5 months after the expected release period just to put cupcake on the G1. and that was the original dev phone straight from the source.
    Yeah, and if they do a good job of factoring their code into the base OS they may not need to change much after a merge. Testing is a different story though. It took awhile for the Droid to get 2.1 (5 months?) as well.

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    If I want the hardware I have to at least deal with it until I can disable or root.

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    drhill26, have you ever used BLUR 2.1? Or are you judging something you've never even seen before? I'm guessing you haven't since it's never been released to the public. Can we keep an open mind until we at least see the physical handset?

    There is no evidence that BLUR slows development. Look how long it took to get 2.1 on the DROID when the N1 had it for months? And now, the N1 will get 2.2 well before the DROID - and the DROID does not have BLUR. Obviously, it's Motorola slowing down the process - or Google purposely slowing down the process, not the overlays slowing things down. Please stop bashing the product you've never used, seen or have any idea what any of the new features are. It's taking up too much space in the thread.

    BTW, I am not "praising" BLUR. I have no interest in it at all. Simply pointing out that you are judging something that you've never used before is not 'praise'. I just have a problem with that type of ignorance. You can't put down a product you know nothing about. It's unethical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delta6 View Post
    Because its not necessary. Froyo (2.2) provides you with everything you need.
    1.) The Shadow doesn't (currently) have Froyo.

    2.) BLUR 2.1 may have new features that Froyo does not.

    Keep an open mind, guys. That's all I ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post

    2.) BLUR 2.1 may have new features that Froyo does not.

    Keep an open mind, guys. That's all I ask.
    The same argument your making for BLUR can be made for Froyo.

    The bottom line is that everything that MotoBLUR does can be done on Android. Maybe not exactly how MotoBLUR does it but its there. Again BLUR is not necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroidFreak View Post
    Does your work have an exchange server where you can check your email from home? If so, then why couldn't you get your email on your droid? I do that currently on my blackberry. I set it up as if it's a pop3 email. That would be extremely disapointing if the droid prevented this for some reason, although I highly doubt that is the case.
    Sorry if this is a repost... didn't seem to work the first time.

    Not sure how it works from a tech perspective, but the way we get email at home from work is logging in to Citrix using security keys generated on the blackberry. There's no webmail type thing we can log into.

    I asked about the Incredible and they said Android devices were not yet supported.

    I believe that the firm's requirements for data devices is that they be able to be wiped if lost and mandatory password to activate after inactivity for (x) period of time - at a minimum (on top of a bunch of other security stuff I'm sure I don't know about or understand)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    drhill26, have you ever used BLUR 2.1? Or are you judging something you've never even seen before? I'm guessing you haven't since it's never been released to the public. Can we keep an open mind until we at least see the physical handset?

    There is no evidence that BLUR slows development. Look how long it took to get 2.1 on the DROID when the N1 had it for months? And now, the N1 will get 2.2 well before the DROID - and the DROID does not have BLUR. Obviously, it's Motorola slowing down the process - or Google purposely slowing down the process, not the overlays slowing things down. Please stop bashing the product you've never used, seen or have any idea what any of the new features are. It's taking up too much space in the thread.

    BTW, I am not "praising" BLUR. I have no interest in it at all. Simply pointing out that you are judging something that you've never used before is not 'praise'. I just have a problem with that type of ignorance. You can't put down a product you know nothing about. It's unethical.


    1.) The Shadow doesn't (currently) have Froyo.

    2.) BLUR 2.1 may have new features that Froyo does not.

    Keep an open mind, guys. That's all I ask.
    Wow. Unethical huh? So any opinion that doesn't agree with yours is unethical. This is ridiculous. There is no reason we have to prove our opinions to your or Motorola. Motorola has to prove their "enhancements" are worthwhile, at the very least they should allow the user to disable their features. I can say without a doubt there has been a way to do that at some point in Blur 2.1's development. When I write a new feature you better believe I have an easy way to disable it so I can error check other code properly.

    I'm pro consumer option. Android jives with that well.

    Blur hasn't proven to be slow on updates. It hasn't had any updates at all (bug fixes don't count in my mind). The Cliq came out before the Droid with 1.6 and it is still at 1.6.

    We aren't clogging the thread as much as you arguing with us. You don't see Bill or Winston running to Blur's defense at every poster who wishes they could turn it off. If we are posting here it is because the phone intrigues us. You are pro Blur and I won't begrudge you that, but why do you insist on not allowing us the option to get rid of it? I wish they would sell a version with Blur and a stock version. Of course unlike my incredible (which I do enjoy, but just like every other phone it isn't perfect) I will need to see this in person first to make sure the screen is big enough for me.

    At the very least I'm glad info is finally being "leaked" about this phone.

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    anyone think Cellular South will be getting this phone? Any of you know who Cellular South is, haha? It's basically a Regional provider in MS who I believe uses Verizon's network for Roaming at no additional price...

    They have very good rates and I'm looking to go back to them after 6-7 long years with AT&T!!

    I'd def. like a look at this phone. It just seems that everyone with HTC's are having issues here and there with pretty much all their phones. I just haven't heard as many complaints about the Droid and it's been out longer. Is this a fair assumption? Not to mention Motorola has been at the top of the mobile game for a while and they're trying to make a come back now which is pretty evident in the hardware they're releasing these days..

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    off topic: matrix, how much of an improvement did Froyo make to your Droid? Cellular South is about to release the Milestone, but I really want to wait until the Shadow/X or whatever may possibly come to cellular south is released...

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    I don't think people are as much complaining about BLUR as the idea of BLUR. Running extra stuff slows down the phone and chews battery. It also slows the development cycle; it's not that it can it's that it has to. Any time there is another layer of software there is another layer of people. The cliq is a great example as someone else points out still running 1.6 and likely never to leave.

    Put it this way. Would you rather have MOTO's software guys trying to add value to android (which is a heckuva moving target at the moment) or getting updates out to current hardware?

    Personally I'd like android to stick to stock for all phones and allow other launchers and widgets on the marketplace. Why can't blur, or sense, or whatever SE uses be apps that can be installed (even by default) without them mucking around with the OS. Or why doesn't MOTO, HTC, or SE contribute back to Android (you know like its supposed to work with open source)? Maybe that's impossible in the current architecture of android and I'm way off topic here so I'll drop it with this: Android as a whole needs to figure this out and MOTO has bet so heavily on android now that they need to help the whole of the platform, and not just make their phone shinier than the other guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridgeman View Post
    off topic: matrix, how much of an improvement did Froyo make to your Droid? Cellular South is about to release the Milestone, but I really want to wait until the Shadow/X or whatever may possibly come to cellular south is released...
    Its much faster and smoother. You can't go wrong.

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