LTE Markets/Rollout Official Discussion

[sc4fpse]

Cleared my Chrome cache and it still hangs. Cleared Verizon cookies too, no luck. Firefox works fine.

rdekema, thanks for the Michigan comparison maps!

[bcltoys]

Work's on IE,Firefox. Then I cleared all history including cache on my chromebook and pc and still worky go figer.It just does not like chrome.

[Trocks797]

Trocks probably has a more detailed map or set of maps, but here's a high level overview:

Actually, for that region, yours are better than mine! Thanks!

Here are the areas I have detailed comparison maps for:

-Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona
-Bakersfield, Fresno, Modesto, Sacramento, Salinas/Monterey, San Diego, San Francisco, San Luis Obispo and Stockton, California
-Colorado Springs and Fort Collins/Loveland, Colorado
-Sarasota/Bradenton, Florida
-Boise/Nampa, Idaho
-Carbondale/Marion and Rockford, Illinois
-Fort Wayne and Indianapolis, Indiana
-Des Moines, Iowa
-Boston and Worcester, Massachusetts
-Detroit, Michigan
-St. Louis, Missouri
-Las Vegas and Reno, Nevada
-Manchester/Nashua, New Hampshire
-Albuquerque and Santa Fe, New Mexico
-Buffalo/Niagara Falls and New York, New York
-Akron, Cleveland and Columbus, Ohio

Let me know if anyone is interested!

[bcltoys]

Now that I have looked at the map and compared to maps i have saved in the last 2 months, I'm not impressed still looks like a bunch of dot's still don't see them covering their g footprint by 2014.

[Trocks797]

Now that I have looked at the map and compared to maps i have saved in the last 2 months, I'm not impressed still looks like a bunch of dot's still don't see them covering their g footprint by 2014.

Never say never! Two months isn't that long...I have maps all the way back early last year and things are moving rapidly.

[Steveanderson13]

I know, right? And 3G just keeps getting worse and worse... I literally am going to throw an LTE iPhone party when it comes out this fall and I can ditch EVDO.

In the mean time, someone should start a "Where 3G doesn't suck" thread. At this point, I'm thinking it would be easier to identify where the network actually works well (amazingly, L.A. is such a place).

Okay, start the thread. I'll post to it everyday. I'm in a different place everyday, use 3g everyday on my Bionic, and rarely have a problem.

[sc4fpse]

Never say never! Two months isn't that long...I have maps all the way back early last year and things are moving rapidly.

I fear that Verizon isn't securing backhaul to remote, rural places covered by 3G currently as it rolls out coverage in larger cities and suburbs. Take Northern lower Michigan for example. Tons of 3G coverage, but most of those areas are pretty remote and rural. If they aren't working on getting backhaul to these areas (or to main areas from which they can use microwave), then I fear the excuse will be "we haven't covered our existing 3G footprint by our deadline because we are working on getting backhaul," when they should have been doing so all along.

[Trocks797]

Okay, start the thread. I'll post to it everyday. I'm in a different place everyday, use 3g everyday on my Bionic, and rarely have a problem.

Same here. 3G is awesome in Kentucky, and I have had zero problems in Indy, Cincy, Atlanta, Chicago, Columbus, DC, Miami, Los Angeles, San Fracisco, Las Vegas, Houston, and Tampa. Yes, I have been to all of these places between now and September 2011, and yes, if you give me enough time to find them, I have speed test results for each place. I am sorry some people live in the exact places VZW has congestion issues, but Verizon is obviously not a problem for most people, as churn remained low again this quarter (lower than AT&T's has ever been). PCWorld just said VZW's national average is over 1mbps, well within VZW's stated 3G speed range, and enough to do 95% of what you want to do on a mobile phone. If Verizon is not satisfactory in your area, switch carriers or switch to LTE. End of story.

[bcltoys]

I would say where I live on Maryland's upper eastern shore I proly average 250kbps I often have page's that time-out. We will see with this 4g coverage but I think Verizon will come up with some excuse , storms, earthquakes,Iran,it's to hot,we ran out of loot something will stop them just like they did with Fios.

[Jim_in_VA]

what is your average down/up on 3G at home?

[Trocks797]

what is your average down/up on 3G at home?

In the city driving is around 1.5 and stationary is 2.0+ in my experience. Their network is very dense here. I just took these:

From my bedroom:




Standing in my driveway:



I can't see the tower from my room or driveway, but I know it is just under a mile away. Verizon did a fantastic job in Kentucky.

[newyork4me]

In the city driving is around 1.5 and stationary is 2.0+ in my experience. Their network is very dense here. I just took these:

From my bedroom:

Standing in my driveway:

I can't see the tower from my room or driveway, but I know it is just under a mile away. Verizon did a fantastic job in Kentucky.

Why is that? Did they buy the network from someone? [I'm actually being serious: VZW-built networks tend to push the limits of the frequency's reach]

Speaking of, did anyone see the CTIA report that ~20,000 new cell sites were constructed last year alone? I have hope for VZW if they are going to jump on the cell site bandwagon too.

[ben7337]

Why is that? Did they buy the network from someone? [I'm actually being serious: VZW-built networks tend to push the limits of the frequency's reach]

Speaking of, did anyone see the CTIA report that ~20,000 new cell sites were constructed last year alone? I have hope for VZW if they are going to jump on the cell site bandwagon too.

Is that 20k just for verizon? That's pretty impressive. Does anyone know how many cell towers verizon has in general? I've never been able to find even recent estimates, but I had heard 50k or so I think.

[newyork4me]

Is that 20k just for verizon? That's pretty impressive. Does anyone know how many cell towers verizon has in general? I've never been able to find even recent estimates, but I had heard 50k or so I think.

No, that's for all US wireless companies. I wish it was just for VZW!

The 45-50k estimate was the last one that anyone made for VZW, but that is several years old.

ETA: Here is the link to the report: http://files.ctia.org/pdf/CTIA_Surve...1_Graphics.pdf

[Trocks797]

Why is that? Did they buy the network from someone? [I'm actually being serious: VZW-built networks tend to push the limits of the frequency's reach]

Speaking of, did anyone see the CTIA report that ~20,000 new cell sites were constructed last year alone? I have hope for VZW if they are going to jump on the cell site bandwagon too.

At first I was like LOL WHAT A JOKESTER! Then I was like "Oh. He's serious."

I have no idea who built it. It has always been Verizon since Verizon's inception as far as I know. I do know they did, at one point, add more towers. The towers that have been here forever have 2 1X panels and 1-2 EVDO panel(s)...and now LTE of course. The newer towers (like the one by my new house, which is just over a mile away from an older tower) only has 1 1X panel, 1 EVDO, and of course LTE. So they knew these sites didn't need the capacity of the others, but regardless, we never have congestion, be it voice or data, no matter what. I wish they were as great everywhere as they are here.