LTE Markets/Rollout Official Discussion

[drewsdroid]

AT&Ts network in my area has improved and now has 3G and HSPA+. But what I can't understand is that they own much of the fiber in the southern states, why has it took them soooo long to get the 3G capacity issues and EDGE only areas upgraded. It took them a year after they launched 3G to get the latency under 500MS and speeds over 1MB.
(I have done speed tests where the latency was near 1,000 wow, BTW calls where dropping and texts where also disappearing- the reason I switched i couldn't handle two years + of this crap)
I have been to ATL and AT&T has been great there for years, why can't they do the same for the thousands of other small, mid sized cities?

I wish I had some of the speed test results from when I was on AT&T
would make a great signature lol

[Jordan T]

http://news.verizonwireless.com/news...012-07-26.html

Oh, I know, but that's a survey, Verizon markets their excellent customer service well. I've dealt with both companies and know enough people with both I can tell you reality is very different. AT&T makes an effort to treat their customers extremely well. Verizon couldn't give a darn.

[dmaxfan]

Oh, I know, but that's a survey, Verizon markets their excellent customer service well. I've dealt with both companies and know enough people with both I can tell you reality is very different. AT&T makes an effort to treat their customers extremely well. Verizon couldn't give a darn.

Att didn't give a s@#$ i was with them over 10 years. If theyd have been smart, they would have sunk all the money they made from the iphone monopoly into their network. They didn't.

Can we please get this back on track to the Verizon lte areas and not customer service of at&t
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy SIII

[Jordan T]

Can we please get this back on track to the Verizon lte areas and not customer service of at&t

Agreed 100%, my point in coming over here was to talk about the Verizon LTE in my area

[ggore]

Att didn't give a s@#$ i was with them over 10 years. If theyd have been smart, they would have sunk all the money they made from the iphone monopoly into their network. They didn't.

Can we please get this back on track to the Verizon lte areas and not customer service of at&t
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy SIII

We've gotta have something to talk about while we wait 3 weeks for the August round of Verizon LTE launch announcements. LOL

Scratch that, Verizon announced yesterday they have added LTE to ONE cell site at North Olmstead, Ohio and another at Hudson, Massachusetts. Discuss........

[ilvla2]

Scratch that, Verizon announced yesterday they have added LTE to ONE cell site at North Olmstead, Ohio and another at Hudson, Massachusetts. Discuss........

Whoopeee

[ggore]

Continuing with my "single-state obsession" <EG>, here is a comparison between AT&T's LTE (darkest blue), Verizon's LTE (red), and the phase 1 launch of Pioneer's LTE (yellow). Pioneer expects to have this entire northwest quadrant of OK, as well as some parts of southwest OK, covered within 7 months. Not bad for a first phase, and notably it will overlay an area of AT&T's great EDGE-only service area. Cellcom is doing just as well with their LTEiRA launches in Wisconsin. Hopefully we will see other participants launch soon, as they are going to do quite a lot of filling in the blanks on Verizon's map.

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[kupe]

I've had some VERY, VERY bad experiences with Verizon. They lie to their customers, they deceive and lie to get a sale. Their customer service is terrible. And they take a very strong anti-LGBT stance.

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So no, I don't hate Verizon....

That's one of the most internally inconsistent posts I've seen here at Howard's. What do you say about corporations you hate?

[kupe]

Oh, I know, but that's a survey, Verizon markets their excellent customer service well. I've dealt with both companies and know enough people with both I can tell you reality is very different. AT&T makes an effort to treat their customers extremely well. Verizon couldn't give a darn.

Which begs the question: If thousands of surveyed individuals with nothing to gain/lose by their responses feel Verizon customer service surpasses AT&T's (significantly) and a small, fractional number of people (you claim to know) have a different, undocumented viewpoint, how does your version have any sense of credibility. Again, your hyperbole exceeds reality...but in a slightly less internally inconsistent manner than the last one I responded to.

[CPGustafson511]

Really wish Verizon would hurry up and completely cover The NY Thruway between Syracuse and Buffalo.

[ben7337]

What does everyone think we will see for the rest of the year with the Verizon LTE rollout? Purely asking for speculation.

To hit the 400 market goal which should in theory come with the 260 million people only requires 63 more new markets. However we have 5 months left, and so they only need 12-13 new markets each month. This is far less than the 30-50 we had in the past few months, but would be more regular compared to other months. So does anyone think we might see some giant expansions and tons of new markets blowing past expectations, or will we just get the bare minimum for the rest of the year?

[CPGustafson511]

What does everyone think we will see for the rest of the year with the Verizon LTE rollout? Purely asking for speculation.

To hit the 400 market goal which should in theory come with the 260 million people only requires 63 more new markets. However we have 5 months left, and so they only need 12-13 new markets each month. This is far less than the 30-50 we had in the past few months, but would be more regular compared to other months. So does anyone think we might see some giant expansions and tons of new markets blowing past expectations, or will we just get the bare minimum for the rest of the year?

If Verizon thinks they're gonna cover their 3G network by this time next year, I don't think they can slow down.

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[Jordan T]

That's one of the most internally inconsistent posts I've seen here at Howard's. What do you say about corporations you hate?

I don't hate corporations, thus no inconsistency. Hatred is an awfully strong emotion to have towards a corporate entity. Or towards any entity, to be honest. People change, business changes, etc. Hate is reserved for concepts in my world. I hate racism, I hate sexism, I hate bigotry, I hate homophobia, I hate hate crimes, etc.

Which begs the question: If thousands of surveyed individuals with nothing to gain/lose by their responses feel Verizon customer service surpasses AT&T's (significantly) and a small, fractional number of people (you claim to know) have a different, undocumented viewpoint, how does your version have any sense of credibility. Again, your hyperbole exceeds reality...but in a slightly less internally inconsistent manner than the last one I responded to.

Those surveys include the vast majority of people who've NEVER really needed customer service. So the advertising and stories like that affect how they answer. It's a cycle. I bet if you surveyed ONLY PEOPLE WHO'VE CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE in the last month (to make sure the memory is fresh and accurate), AT&T would do much better than they do.

It's the Consumer Reports fallacy. Consumer Reports is, of course, one big effing joke to anyone who knows anything about the products they review. I remember when HDTV was new and RCA used an HD15 RGBHV (VGA) connector instead of, ironically, the more common RCA YPrPb (Component) connections. Consumer Reports blasted RCA for their use of a "proprietary" connection. WTF? Whoever reviewed it had never seen a computer monitor obviously. That's when I lost any last lingering bit of respect I had for Consumer Reports. Of course, that's because I'm too young to remember the famous quote: “If you can't find someone to roll this car, I will!” — Irwin Landau, Editorial Director. Talk about deciding your story, THEN doing your testing! If you don't know the story, Consumer Reports single-handedly destroyed Suzuki's reputation in the US. They decided the Suzuki Samurai was unsafe, then changed all their tests to make it look like it was. When they still couldn't get the car to tip off it's wheels, an angry editor now famously stated “If you can't find someone to roll this car, I will!”

Consumer Reports and it's like use FOX News style journalism. The results have been determined in advance, then the testing and reporting is skewed to back up the pre-determined results. They don't even take any shame in doing this or try terribly hard to hide it. Listen to Frank Luntz sometime. He's proud of what he does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4

Thus, no, no, surveys about anything mean nothing to me. Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[johnhere]

They've got to pump it out like there's no tomorrow to meet that goal and they appear to be well on there way. I would be surprised if they don't fulfill it although it's going to need lots of tweaking

[ben7337]

If Verizon thinks they're gonna cover their 3G network by this time next year, I don't think they can slow down.

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It became the end of 2013 a while ago, the mid 2013 plan was pushed/scrapped.

Here is what the press release for June said

"We are committed to cover more than 400 markets by the end of 2012. We will continue to expand and strengthen our 4G LTE network and plan to offer full nationwide coverage everywhere we have 3G coverage today, by the end of 2013."