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    Quote Originally Posted by Antenna View Post
    GSM is not inferior.... it will still be easier to migrate to LTE and 4G from GSM vs CDMA (why do you think Verizon is moving towards SIM cards and a GSM-esque future?). Don't confuse the AT&Trash network with GSM. I agree that Verizon is better in the USA, but that shouldn't reflect bad on GSM/EDGE/WCDMA/HSPA+ system.
    So you don't think CDMA is superior? Interesting....There is a reason it is the most popular tech...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe12304 View Post
    So you don't think CDMA is superior? Interesting....There is a reason it is the most popular tech...
    Only here in USA, GSM/UMTS/WCDMA is the standard elsewhere. Wonder why even Verizon wants SIM cards for LTE, just like the technology thats been used for decades in GSM???

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    Tracfone/Net10 both offer the choice of GSM and CDMA, so there is no reason to suggest that they have not decided to go with this company wide by now including ST.

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    CDMA is at a dead end really.



    Quote Originally Posted by Joe12304 View Post
    So you don't think CDMA is superior? Interesting....There is a reason it is the most popular tech...

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    Foreign cdma networks allow sim like cards called ruim cards NOW. China and India's Cdma networks would get slaughtered by limited byod if they didn't have a way to compete with their gsm brethren...The US is one of the few countries that seems to love to lock it all down for the money...or at least tighter then other countries in general...

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    Quote Originally Posted by offthegrid View Post
    CDMA is at a dead end really.

    Well, technically GSM's replacement IS CDMA, it's just not Qualcom's CDMA.

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    I called ST and asked about the GSM roaming and I was told that when I purchase a GSM phone I will either be placed on AT&T or TMo but there is no roaming between the two and you can not choose the one you want, the rep said that system will put you on the one that has the best signal to the physical address that it is registered to. I was thinking about switching but as a truck driver I am worried about coverage since I go to the major cities and rural areas, I wonder how AT&T would work for me? I currently have verizon and have good coverage with their roaming agreements but take the roaming agreements away and have ST CDMA coverage I would be in trouble in KY an WV. I live in Cinci and WallyWorld has the T401G on the shelf but I don't know if I should take the risk of not getting good coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyered View Post
    I called ST and asked about the GSM roaming and I was told that when I purchase a GSM phone I will either be placed on AT&T or TMo but there is no roaming between the two and you can not choose the one you want, the rep said that system will put you on the one that has the best signal to the physical address that it is registered to. I was thinking about switching but as a truck driver I am worried about coverage since I go to the major cities and rural areas, I wonder how AT&T would work for me? I currently have verizon and have good coverage with their roaming agreements but take the roaming agreements away and have ST CDMA coverage I would be in trouble in KY an WV. I live in Cinci and WallyWorld has the T401G on the shelf but I don't know if I should take the risk of not getting good coverage.
    The nice thing about WalMart is they take returns of ST phones if you are not satisfied with the coverage. Just varify that with the department head at the WalMart where you make the purchase.

    I have had very good coverage with AT&T while traveling with Tracfone and Net10 phones (constant coverage aand no dropped calls). I have been less successful with T-Mobile as the provider on Tracfone and Net10. I Have only traveled thru Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Tenn., Miss. and Alabama.

    I also wonder if looking around for the LG GSM phone might be a better choice. Shurely others will disagree.

    Warning: Call ST three times, speak with different CS`s and you might get three different answers. They handle calls for ST, Tracfone, Net10, Net10 Unlimited and Safe link, and can get the companies and the Info. mixed up, in addition to not being very well trained to be knowledgable.

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    They are all transitioning to LTE which in reality is neither since its not evolutionary. It depends on what layer you are describing also. Some of these standards work together and some do not.

    In laymans terms cdma as people know it is being replaced by a cascade of standards that looks more like gsm with a sim card. The phones will have to have a fancy radios to be backwards compatible and it will be years and years before we can take an AT&T phone and swap a Verizon sim into it if ever.

    It is as you pointed out difficult to pin point thats for sure. Qualcomm has some patents in the LTE game I believe also.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwolf View Post
    Well, technically GSM's replacement IS CDMA, it's just not Qualcom's CDMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offthegrid View Post
    CDMA is at a dead end really.

    So is GSM then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antenna View Post
    Only here in USA, GSM/UMTS/WCDMA is the standard elsewhere. Wonder why even Verizon wants SIM cards for LTE, just like the technology thats been used for decades in GSM???
    Right. Most of the world uses old tech. Shocking that we use the best eh?

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    Both GSM phones are now available on the Straight Talk Website: http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpdi...&market=COGSM4

    You will notice this is listed as the COGSM4 market. There are some variences between the Tracfone markets and the ST markets. Here are some zip codes for the different Tracfone market areas (thanks go to Jimates):

    CO = CDMA
    some CDMA only zip codes are: 05350, 05408, 12752, 23192, 28640, 49739, 51355, 54969, 57401, 59802, 73946, 73949 82210, 82801, 95429, 96130

    GSM4 = AT&T
    some AT&T only zip codes are: 00902, 65046, 65287, 76801, 76825

    GSM5 = TMobile
    the zips I had here all recently changed to GSM5AT. Use the COGSM5 zip for only T-Mobile phones. 82001

    GSM5AT = TMobile with AT&T
    some GSM5AT zip codes are: 02115, 04901, 07803, 10550, 14618, 15301, 21788, 47803, 54701, 60609, 87107, 93274, 95608

    COGSM4 = CDMA & AT&T
    some COGSM4 zip codes are: 04654, 12720, 15904, 15931, 18231, 27530, 47978

    COGSM5 = CDMA & TMobile
    some COGSM5 zip codes are: 82001

    Pic a zip and view the ST corresponding market and its offerings.
    What I saw makes me wonder if T-Mobile is in the mix.
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    Dear Anybody,

    PLEASE figure out how to unlock these sim cards to work in any unlocked GSM phone.

    Sincerely,
    Everyone on HF.

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    LG 620 FM radio

    Has anyone figured out how to use the FM radio on the LG 620? My phone ask me to attach the the headset(antenna).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe12304 View Post
    Right. Most of the world uses old tech. Shocking that we use the best eh?
    Huh? UMTS isn't "old technology", and like I said, it's ALSO CDMA. And unlike Qualcom's you can use voice and data at the same time, they use a higher bit rate for voice, etc.

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