Installing non-VM apps on Rumor Touch

[Judge Holden]

Wooow.. I'm not EVEN going to try to catch up with all that stuff! lol If it was REALLY important, and you need an answer, kindly ask again (my bad)! Let's see what bits I can recall..

tcross - just confirming, they're dumber than a bunch of stumps.

nowurtalkin - glad I was able to help! I do think you understand the SD card thing correctly now. Poop!! All that guy gave was a bunch of methods of doing the ##VIRGIN# method. All that does is reconfigured your virgin mobile services. Thanks for posting it anyway! Also, you're mysterious folders popping up may be related to applets you have installed in your phone, which need to write data to the SD card, for whatever reason. Windows is SUPPOSED to know better than to create the 'Recycled' folder on your SD card. Just delete the whole thing when you see it.

fofopuka - There may be a 3rd party screen locker that will do what you want. Think I saw one on GetJar, but it was lame. I would THINK that there must be one somewhere, that will run in the background and pop-up after 'X' amount of time of the phone being used, then you could just turn off the native one. Just a band-aid fix until someone hacks the native one.

Judge Holden - You CAN edit the jad files manually. I believe Notepad++ works on the mac, if I recall correctly. If you're lucky, look for a java / jad syntax file for it (will give you nice highlighting ). All the jad builder programs do is pull the data out of the config file inside the jar. the jar itself is REALLY just a zip file, you can unzip it with any old unzip program, then find the config file, and build the jad yourself. be sure the name of the jad file is identical to the jar file. Good luck!

vuuv - I'm using Lplayer and Evans myself. A hint, one of them I had to go digging and find the japanese site where they make it to download an updated version that wasn't buggy. Of course, then I had to fumble through the menus to get it back into English, but I'm happy with it. Keep digging till you find good versions of both.

CROGON, Thanks!
I'll get cracking on it

[El Schisne]

All right, I've read quite a bit of this thread and looked at many others. I first want to thank all of you guys a lot for all the effort you've put into opening up this sleek little device. You are my heroes.

Now, I can find myriad instructions on how to work around this and that restriction, but I'm still unclear as to what benefits you guys have found so far from unlocking the phone with the SPC. I gather that some of you have been able to access the phone's filesystem, and I surmise that nobody has figured out how to tether yet (not that I'd do that anyway, since it's against VM's ToS ). However, what specifically could I gain from unlocking my RT? Could I, for example, configure the phone so that links that appear in texts open in Opera Mini rather than in the stock browser? (Please say yes. ) Could I edit some files and thereby change the icons used in menu items?

In other words, should I go to the trouble of getting the SPC off the phone? If there aren't any super-awesome things you all have found in there, I'll be content with the ability to install apps from the APPS folder on the microSD card.

Thanks!

Edit: Also, I see that LG's website shows an available firmware upgrade (for the VM510 specifically?!). Has anyone tried that? Does it work on an unlocked phone? And what does it change?

[fofopuka]

Vuuv - the last thing which I saw recommended as a good music player was the Evan mp3 player, I have it installed on my phone but haven't used it much, you may want try it out.

fofopuka - There may be a 3rd party screen locker that will do what you want. Think I saw one on GetJar, but it was lame. I would THINK that there must be one somewhere, that will run in the background and pop-up after 'X' amount of time of the phone being used, then you could just turn off the native one. Just a band-aid fix until someone hacks the native one.

As far as I know there isn't any way to turn off the native one, is there?

[dstember81]

In other words, should I go to the trouble of getting the SPC off the phone?

At this point I don't think there is any benefit to having the code (other than bragging to your non-techy friends about stuff they didn't understand anyways). Maybe soon that will change, but unless you are one who knows enough about the phone to use the code to crack it further...there's no gain.

Despite the mammoth length of this thread, the real benefit came from the first couple pages involving the APP discovery and then how to coordinate the jar and jad files. In my view none of the mp3 players are close in usability and tend to be buggy; thus the factory one is still the way to go. Same goes for GPS, gmail, and other chat apps. Lots of interesting finds from many peoples tireless efforts, but the apps aren't that good. Especially if you compare them to the BB from VM.

I think the only real gain so far has been the ability to add games, which I'm not interested in. Being a java based phone our options are limited compared to most slick new phones. I am with VM for the plan and the stock options on this phone, which won't change. It's a good phone.

Not trying to be a 'debby downer', but what we've accomplished thus far is more or less the ability to add trinkets to the phone. I hope that changes with the work of many of you here.

[VerrieSweet]

Hello everyone....I have been following this thread kind on and off and I would like 2 say thank you to all who have spent hours and days to make this a wonderful phone.

[vuuv]

crogon/fofopuka, thanks! i don't suppose anyone would be willing to upload working jad/jars for evan player....?

[nowurtalkin]

Perhaps tech support was referring to using the data cable without the use of the microsd card in the phone? That would be a consistent scenario I believe. If you did not have the card installed on the phone, then plugging the cable to the phone would result in just charging and would not be good for anything else. If you did have the card installed, then there may be a flaw or something wrong with your phones card reader. Did you have the card in your phone and did the tech guy know this?

PS....I don't have any problem with you and my initial reply to your original post was my attempt to help you out. The way I see it is that we were having a discussion, a meeting of the minds, and I see nothing wrong with having a convo here cause after all this is a discussion forum and is relevant to the thread. If anyone objects like whats his name then that's their problem.

i had more comments on some of the previous posts, but i batted them around awhile & for various reasons, let them go...i waited too long for them to matter much now, all things considered...but i do think 2 pts are worthwhile here, re: your post above...

1) as to your suggestion the techsupport guy may've simply been unawares of the sd card inserted or not...well, let me say this: on one hand, since back at that point in time, i was not yet clear on the fact the card must be in phone in order to get phone recog., (and further confused by my perception [maybe a mistaken one?] that on 1 or more occasions, the recog. didn't occur even with card in) then your guess as to what occurred on the call, only makes sense up to a certain point. that is...that since he indeed identified himself as a experienced techsupport guy & i spent enough time on phone w/him to establish a rapport & make clear to him what was happening w/cable, and since ultimately, the cable does have legit data transfer uses...it would therefore be painfully obvious, or should've been...for him to know & point out and/or ask, whether or not i had the card in or not. i can't remember for certain now, but i think i mentioned the card to him. regardless if i did or not, still the obvious thing, under the circumstances, would've been for him to point it out...if he knew...and if somehow he did not know this ???, then that fact, along with other facts i pointed out in my orig long post about this issue, are now vetted even more...as to the importance i felt was necessary to attach to it. because if he was aware of card insertion necessary, then him not saying so is ridiculous (when a caller is reporting no phone recog w/data cable) & if he wasn't aware, then twice as ridiculous for him to be in position of tech support. add to that, not a word of explanation on how to use or what can be done with, is incl in so called "manual", nor on website, nor any other "official" place that i'm aware of....plus that i was interested 1st, in transferring contacts from my old phone, plus winding up here on this thread where the whole basis starts w/using data cable...THEN THAT is why i felt it was so potentially useful for me to describe that whole scenario...because i had seen at least 1 or 2 other ppl mention not seeing any "workability" w/their cable...and so i thought certain folks (like that) would get enlightened by it, rather than confused, as you say i might have done to others, besides yourself. above said, no one else ever expressed anything 1 way or the other about such an "issue", so oh well...i guess all i'm really doing is practicing my grammar...

2) as to your 'p.s.'...i feel you made an important point there, worth feedback...

when you said "the way i see it is that we were having a discussion...", and so forth, you are imho, correct that so long as said discussion validly relates, even indirectly, w/the orig topic, then it "has a place here"....and objections to that...are more of the "objectioner's" problem....but at the same time....w/all due respect, if it veers too far astray or gets too personal, then i also agree on the "PM' ing suggestion as also a valid request. (i did not see our discussion as having breached those boundaries, therefore your "read it or skip it" and move on..is the right one). as far as i'm concerned, ppl who complain of 'bleeding eyes' over length or content, of a well intended post, esp when it comes to nothing more than electronic text on a screen that's easily avoided or skipped over, is akin to saying: "those darn ants are in my way, or those ducks, or those cattle crossing the road"...when the reality is that it's easy to "get around them, or just have patience w/their rightful presence on the same road as you. even long winded (trippin'?), grammatically challenged posts like mine may have a piece of wisdom buried somewhere in there...

[nowurtalkin]

nowurtalkin - glad I was able to help! I do think you understand the SD card thing correctly now. Poop!! All that guy gave was a bunch of methods of doing the ##VIRGIN# method. All that does is reconfigured your virgin mobile services. Thanks for posting it anyway! Also, you're mysterious folders popping up may be related to applets you have installed in your phone, which need to write data to the SD card, for whatever reason. Windows is SUPPOSED to know better than to create the 'Recycled' folder on your SD card. Just delete the whole thing when you see it.

well yes, i think i do understand "the sd card thing" now, as far as, 'i get it'...that you must have card in a locked phone in order for it to get recog'zd on pc. (and i still think someone out there will be helped by my bringing the whole thing up, because of how it's not published or explained anywhere by vm, except to completely misstate it's use & abilities (the data cable), as 2 or 3 of them did w/me.

next you move to: the so called "programming" issue. you say (based on the instructs i posted) that he was just stringin' together a bunch of methods for reconfig services. maybe so, but as i had earlier reported, based on the convo i had w/him, i did not get the impression you reached, as to what those instructs are. remember, 1st of all, the convo i'm referring to, is nothing to do w/the one about the data cable. this had to do with the idea of "fixing" malfunctioning phones. it began w/another poster's (forgot who now) report of loss of internet & i followed up w/my report on my calls to them re: another malfunction...(that being that with the interface doing different than what it was supposed to do). also, i reported the instructs given me, from 2 seperate calls & advisors. the 1st one i didn't trust as gonna help me, but the instructs from the 2nd call (that i identified as such on my post) was definitely "supposed" to be a SINGLE instruction set, that was supposed to be the "correct" way to reprogram the phone in a way that was expressly promised to fix the partic issues (w/my phone interface) that i reported to him. that, as opposed to "a string of unrelated methods of recong'ing phone services. in fact, i questioned him on that very point, and was assured that this set of instructs would fix my phone issue. and also don't forget that the instruction set was incomplete because i lost patience w/copying it all down.

the issues i reported w/phone were: "hanging up on a caller, when sliding the unlock button to the left, where it says "answer", as opposed to the right, where it says "unlock". if i choose sliding to the right, it then gives a different, newly generated "answer button" which works correctly. but evertime i slide to left ("answer"), which is the intuitive thing to choose, it instantly hangs up on the caller. 2ndly, when entering a number, anything entered after[*] results in the "call" button to change to a "launch" button, rendering any[*] calls impossible. (there is a "getaround" in that it's not necessary to use *86 as a shortcut to call vm, which i believe is what it's supposed to do...because you don't need to...you just enter full # as a "contact"), but in the case of[*] services, such as to block your id or call tracing, etc., i don't see any way to do it...unless maybe using the "prepend or prefix, whatever, thingy? i want to have the ability to use "*67", or "*69". right now, i can't. and i think it might be "a network" or ota thing, in some way, because i definitely was able to use the *86 once or twice, in the beginning, but then it reverted to above reported malfunction.

i had to return my 1st phone, as non functional & i dread having to return this one also, my only phone...and w/all the "setups" & contacts, and all...so was hoping there might be a way to fix this issue w/o another phone swap. if anyone has any insight to that end, please let me know.

also, sorry this is not about "non vm apps" directly...i'm just replying to crogon's comments about the so called "reprogramming codes" i was given for this...as i was responding to the guy with loss of internet issue and after they gave me this code, i thought it might have potential in some way, as to the unlocking of phone.

[nowurtalkin]

..There's a setting under the Menu 'Settings' somewhere to 'allow all connections' on bluetooth. Once you enable that, you can indeed use bluetooth to transfer via FTP. Yes, once you use my method to unlock the phone:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Unlock-the-Rumor-Touch

so right after "techsupport guy's a moron"...you went to above comment & i'm totally lost on what you're saying. i don't think i mentioned bluetooth, nor do i see a connection to what i was commenting on or asking about. if i was to enable this "settings>allow all connections" function, which i haven't seen...(update: just went lookin for that, outta curiousity & i can find nothing like that under settings..? ..just as well tho, since i'm not aware of any need so far..)...please tell me how it relates to something i was asking about....oh wait...i think i see that you are speaking to maybe an "alternative way" to transfer files, maybe related to my question about data cable vs sd card? if so, i don't really have an issue w/transfer of files (least not yet..)..my issue was orig non recog of phone plus the dumb stuff vm told me. i'm over that. great if there's 3 diff ways to transfer files. (card, cable, bluetooth). i have no bluetooth devices at this point, other than this phone. i'm lost. what are you telling me?

[nowurtalkin]

Yes, once you use my method to unlock the phone:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Unlock-the-Rumor-Touch

..you can 'enable DM mode', then you can see the native file system in various special programs. (Read the comments on that page.)

pretty much lost on this too. no clue what DM mode is (tho i remember reading something possibly mentioning dm (digital mode?) mode & modem mode (too weird.."mode m mode), but i'm prolly way off base there, cuz i would think that phone is not a modem to start with (everyone wants to tether, but can't so...), therefore why hav to "enable dm mode"...from what? is this anything to do w/anything i asked about? and as to 'native file system', don't know how i would hope to understand anything in such a file sys, nor what i would do w/it if i did. should i? are you talkin ta me? haha..."read the comments on that page"...uh..you must mean on that link...ok, let me see if that sheds some light..(is he talkin ta me?..)
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*update: ok, i clicked link & i see it's your "look ma, i cracked it!" tutorial. of course i read that whole thing when you 1st posted it, as i told you, i've followed along w/this entire thread best i can. i didn't get too far w/it though, as i could not get what it said i was supposed to get from lg site. it didn't even list this phone. i tried messing w/that for a day or too, but had to "step away" after awhile. also, correction on the "dm file thing i was trying to remember..haha...i see i had gotten it from your tutorial & now that parts makes sense as i understand the (basic concept anyway) about instructing the port to switch from usb drive to modem.

but ultimately (in terms of where all this has arrived at to date..), i'm seeing this as having gone from such to such: "ok you peasants, you're not allowed to ask the king any questions...why, you're lucky we let you think your own thoughts, now run along"; to..."ok, you win...we've decided to let you ask your questions to the king, but you're not to get any answers, so be happy with that...uh..ok?"; to...allright, allright...you've worn us down so much, we've decreed that you can now ask questions & get answers from your king, but don't expect them to actually make any sense...you peons!"; to..."damn, you peons are relentless aren't you?...ok..we give....uncle!...henceforth, you can ask all the questions you want & kingy will give you actual answers that even make sense....but bwu hahaha....it still won't do you any good!...cuz it still won't work! it'll look like it will. the "pearls" will be right there before you...dug up by you...but bwa haha bwaha....as soon as you reach out your hand to partake, the mirage will disappear....tsk, tsk, tsk.....until guess what you gotta do?....you guessed it!....ya gotta sign up for a 20 year plan...get a free phone...but you'll need a 2nd mortgage on the pymts for enough data & voice minutes...and THEN....and only THEN...will your phone be unlocked....but we'll still charge you w/a misdemeanor if you tether....bwa haha bwu haha!!!

[tcross8361]

ok, still having problems with the data. I started my own thread on this so I don't beat this one up any worse than I already have. I think I found the problem for them(VM that is). I found in my account activity for data on the vm web site it says quota 0mb and my kids say quota unlimited mb under my account>account activity>mobile web activity. So if you have any posible answers on how to fix this hit me up on my thread here http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...7#post14067627

[nowurtalkin]

ok, still having problems with the data. I started my own thread on this so I don't beat this one up any worse than I already have. I think I found the problem for them(VM that is). I found in my account activity for data on the vm web site it says quota 0mb and my kids say quota unlimited mb under my account>account activity>mobile web activity. So if you have any posible answers on how to fix this hit me up on my thread here http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...7#post14067627

i'm dying to know when & if vm is made aware of the "0mb quota" online thingy...if they still say "take the battery out?" (i'm hoping on this season of american idol, to see a fillipino vm advisor singing the sure to go viral: "battery out...battery out...if ya phone dunt work, take da battery out! [sung to "pants on the ground"] )

[nowurtalkin]

getting back to "installing non vm apps"...my deal is as follows:

1st, i was hoping to have and/or find a way to transfer the contact list from my old sprint flip phone to my vmrt. as i had reported, i had tethering & data transfer going on w/it. i had used the software pgm that came with the data cable that i had to get from crapshack, after waiting a whole year (back around 2002) for the new 3g (the orig 3g!) phones to come out & was promised i could tether it, so when it came out i paid the big bucks for it, and as soon as i bought it, they said they didn't have the data cable or software & i was incensed about it, but the sprint guy told me on the side, that they had made a change in plans & that i could go to RS & get the cable & software, which i did & it was cheap & it worked...very well....for a very long time....however, the truth is that sprint realized shortly after touting how they would allow tethering on the new 3g phones (which i waited a year for), that they would likely not be able to cover the bandwidth, so what they did was to stop saying it (but radio shack picked up with the "futuredial" pckgs) & then, secretly, sprint changed their policy, in the fine print, (w/o any notification otherwise), that tethering was no longer gonna be supported. so i didn't know this then & my internet connection was exclusively via my phone as modem, for 2 yrs. (connection speed listed as 230 kB/sec///actual = approx half that. then they sent me a letter saying sorry jigs up...no more...but i was already about a 4 to 5 yr sprint cust at that point, so i figured they could kiss my grits, which they did & i maintained for 2 more yrs, total of 4 to 5 yrs my only internet connect. but my 7 to 8 yr old phone would was not upgradable to be compatible w/the modern software, so it lost much of its functionality. i had to get a new phone. i wanted a touchphone. "instinct" reviews were not good & then i wanted android. sprint announced on 3/16/10 they would have the "nexus one". i checked specs. yes! i wanted. i waited...and waited...and waited. approx 5 mos. no sprint nexus. then nexus died. sprint offered me no better as a 12 yr cust than a 1 or 2 yr cust, plus real expensive new deals, plus extra 10 bucks for 4g that don't even exist here. (but they were telling me, as we "negotiated" that they were offering me "unheard of/unmatched anywhere in the industry deal. bye sprint. seeya! (shoulda shot down that satellite 10 yrs ago) hello VM/$25 touch.

when i had the sprintphone, i used the data cable to transfer my contacts list to a backup on pc. i recently updated that list. i had hoped to be able to transfer that to my rt, after seeing this thread. i did get blueftp on phone & i was able to transfer the contact list to the rt, via that route, but of course it is only an html list, in my apps folder but not actually in the phones contacts. so i had to start manually transferring, but if anyone should figure out that it can be done (as if from one vm phone to another vm phone) then it would be interesting to know for other ppl's sake.

2. i no longer have the major need for tethering, but it would be nice to crack that, for emergency purposes.

3. in case anyone still doesn't realize it (because i hear the majority of ppl saying none of the other media players work too well) that the blueftp is at least a little more capable & beneficial than the native vm player, in terms of it does easily allow for the much desired "play in the background" function, and it also allows for "fullscreen video" (except for youtube..as that is a different situation), that you don't get on the native player. interestingly, it also allows for "fullscreen vertical" play, which gives some interesting screen shots (like when the camera is on a tight shot). it also gives you controls via the keyboard, such as volume, list selection, etc. i'm fairly sure there are more advantages and/or features of this great port file transfer program. maybe someone can even get it to do id3? bruce really gave us a golden nugget with these initial empowerments to this phone.

4. i'm confused (what else is new?) about what i seem to hear ppl always saying about what rt phone can do/can't do. like so many instances where i seem to read that you can't change the wallpaper w/o 1st "unlocking the phone", but everything i have tried to put on this phone (possibly because i had very little~to~no idea of what i was doing) has installed & worked w/no problem. for ex i tried putting a new wallpaper on. no problem. why do ppl say you can't. it was easy. all songs, videos, 3g2, 3gp, mp4 (as long as not too lg), various resolutions, movies, it all works, so far??

5. i installed the iradio thing, but i can't seem to know how to get it to work (that is, if it can work on this phone, as i thought someone reported it does. that would be real nice thing to have. i wonder if there's some way to integrate blueftp/opera mini/reg web url (not a mobile site)/ & iradio? i'm guessing that vm proxy's filter out such possibilities?

i haven't tried it yet, but my understanding is changing ringtones is no big deal to do. cool.

that's about it, all i'm needing. iradio. id3 read. if tethering is poss, i can wait. email works great. internet so far quite reliable. youtube always works. i can't understand why anyone ever had a prob w/google maps. it works amazingly well. i can walk a few steps in any direction & google immed & accurately shows it, down to a couple feet...free!

oh...1 other thing. anyone know if its possible to install animated gif's. i installed one, but no animation on it.

[tcross8361]

nowurtalkin, some of your questions or points can be answered with one web site vmtouch.com. It was created by one of the people on here. It has a list of working apps and games. It even has some movie downloads. The ringtone section is lacking but still a good site.

Jcontacts backup is a good program that works for transfering to your touch as long as you can use it on the other phone. It exports fine but when you import it says it fails but if you check your contacts they'll be on there.

The media player thing is very sketchy. I've really grown to love the blue ftp for the same reason as you. The biggest thing I look for in a media player is playing in the back ground and playlists. Give me those 2 things and I'm a happy camper. I haven't ventured into the media player much more since the last one I tried bricked my phone (look it up 30 or 40 pages ago). Well I was able to fix it though thanks some skilled advice of people on here.

The Iradio works but it is to slow or the vm network is to slow. It just sits and buffers, then you here the station for a second or two, then it buffers again. I would love to have a web radio app that works. The working jad and jar files for iradeo are on vmtouch.com.

[nowurtalkin]

to add to my discoveries of functionality of blueftp as a media player: 1st, to reinterate, (for those who missed it) when playing video (not youtube) w/keyboard closed, you get a partial, vertical screen. in that mode there are on screen controls. if you tap the screen expando button, the onscreen cntrls disappear & you then get full screen vertical! depending on the orig vert rez of the video, this may pixilate the picture somewhat, but if orig rez was decent, you get a good view. this is a very interesting function in certain cases, such as if you are viewing a band & there's a tight shot of say the guitarist, then fullscreen vert is pretty cool. when you open the keyboard, default view has onscreen cntrls & halfscreen video which includes 2 and sometimes 3 seperate video screens, usually 2 though & 1 of them is usually "jumpy" & there is a delayed timing difference between what ea screen is showing, which gives a false impression of "multicam". if you tap the expando button, you get your fullscreen horiz & cntrls go away. now you can use the up/dwn keyboard buttons for vol. & the enter button gives you pause & the left/rt buttons give you rewind & fast fwd (no view). if you just push those buttons momentarily, it will act like "chapters", because it "quick advances". you can also install i think it is 3gp, audio only, (which doesn't need blueftp) on this phone. i'm not totally up on this yet, but i think this involves where you get the file from orig, or what converter you might use to rip audio. i discovered this accidently on my 1st attempted video transfer to phone. the video in question was a very hi rez mp4. i chose one of several converters i had to convert for phone. this particular converter offered limited conversion "choices", compared to some other converters i have, but i didn't know that at the time. so it took this hi Q mp4 & instead of it having the ability to give me a best possible audio/video conversion to 3g that it could, it instead gave me a 3gp or 3g2 (i have to look it up to see exactly which..if interested just ask & i'll give you the converters & the rundown on the partic file extentions (there are actually 3 or 4 different "3g" compression file extentions that are for the phone). so anyway, the one it gave me was a hi quality audio only file ripped from the video. this is NOT a blank video w/audio, this is a full fledged hi quality, non mp3 audio file. now, i'm not sure yet about whether or not this technique automatically gives you higher quality audio than an mp3, but i think it does. i would have to do a file sz check. there are different quality level mp3's also, so it would be interesting to see if the 3g2 audio, ripped from a video that contains hi quality audio, is intrinsically better than if the same audio file is converted to mp3. it is possible also (i have to check) that a .flac file could be converted to play, rendering a super hi Q audio file. i have audio on my phone that was ripped from hi quality video (concert footage) usiing the converter i mentioned, that is so clear, even at full vol., even on the phone spkr, it's unbelievable!

also, know that this phone can handle mp4 video files of varying rez. i'm not sure yet of the limit, before it won't work, or only renders audio (which is what happens if you convert to too lg a rez file, on some converters.) in some cases, such as w/the converter that gave me that special audio file i mentioned above (by the way, THAT plays in the audio sec of phone, not in the video, so you get the EQ screen), i have been able to get medium hi rez mp4 video to work on phone (much higher rez than the reg 3gp videos). so here you can have the equivilent of hi def video play fullscreen on the phone. for ex, i have been getting very hi def recorded recent concert footage, which is sent to youtube, then i have a downloader/converter that not only downloads that video but also then gives me a whole list of choices of conversion types & rez levels. so i pick a mid level mp4 or a highest level 3gp, get a very quick conversion, then put on sd card & viola! hi def video w/ hi Q audio of u2 360 tour of europe shows, within hours of occurance, that in some cases are higher quality than "pro shot" & play on the phone. cool. feel free to ask about any of the "particulars".