Unlocked Telus HTC Desire working on Rogers 2G?

**LSG** · 08-31-2010, 08:18 PM

If I unlock the Telus HTC Desire and I put my Rogers sim in it will it run on Rogers 2G networks. (Currently have a dumbphone btw so data is obsolete )

**joop88** · 08-31-2010, 09:38 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry Tour 9630: BlackBerry9630/5.0.0.643 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/126)

It should...but why not run it on 3G?

**evilbaby** · 09-01-2010, 06:31 AM

Assuming there are unlock codes, yes it will run on 2G and 3G. If you want only 2G to save battery power you can set that up in the settings. Don't have my android phone in front of me but I think it is menu->settings->wireless->network operators->2G only

**a1jatt** · 09-01-2010, 08:02 AM

Yes it works both on 2g and 3g. Depending on the signal, it keeps switching atuomatically between E,3G and H. And yes u can force 2g mode if u like

**Mr Mystery** · 09-02-2010, 02:23 AM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9700/5.0.0.862 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/107)

Originally Posted by joop88

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry Tour 9630: BlackBerry9630/5.0.0.643 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/126)

It should...but why not run it on 3G?

Maybe he is located where Rogers doesn't offer 3G yet?

**bfksc** · 09-02-2010, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by a1jatt

Yes it works both on 2g and 3g. Depending on the signal, it keeps switching atuomatically between E,3G and H. And yes u can force 2g mode if u like

Do you have a Telus branded Desire? I have one and Telus' firmware disabled EDGE data connections. I absolutely could not get EDGE data on the phone at all while driving through New Brunswick and PEI 2 weeks ago along the Transcanada, and I thought my phone was defective or something was wrong with my account. It worked fine for GSM/2G phone calls and texts though. I also tried switching it to GSM only for EDGE data and it wouldn't work even in a 3G area.

I have since flashed my Telus Desire to an unbranded official HTC Froyo update and EDGE is now working. I deliberately drove outside the 3G area and tested EDGE and it works fine.

**a1jatt** · 09-02-2010, 11:24 AM

I hjave telus desire but I never used telus stock software. I have been using opendesire Tom since day one.

**00taffy** · 09-02-2010, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by bfksc

Do you have a Telus branded Desire? I have one and Telus' firmware disabled EDGE data connections. I absolutely could not get EDGE data on the phone at all while driving through New Brunswick and PEI 2 weeks ago along the Transcanada, and I thought my phone was defective or something was wrong with my account. It worked fine for GSM/2G phone calls and texts though. I also tried switching it to GSM only for EDGE data and it wouldn't work even in a 3G area.

I have since flashed my Telus Desire to an unbranded official HTC Froyo update and EDGE is now working. I deliberately drove outside the 3G area and tested EDGE and it works fine.

I've had the same issues as bfksc where my phone wouldn't get on EDGE. A lot of people were saying 'It should why wouldn't it' etc, without actually having a Telus Desire (stock ROM) in front of them, but it's interesting to know that I wasn't the only one having the issue.

Again, Telus = HSPA only, so it does make sense for them to disable EDGE in software

Regardless, not really an issue as any of the roms out there will make EDGE work....

**Rogido** · 09-02-2010, 12:52 PM

But why would Telus disable EDGE for data but not for voice?

**00taffy** · 09-02-2010, 01:14 PM

Not sure, I am just sharing my observation. It seems others were having the same issue:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...-3G-%283.5G%29

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...1#post13993946

Another user had a different explanation. Could be.

Originally Posted by IDEA_NXT

The reason has nothing to do with Telus locking the 2G band, but rather a bug in Android 2.1.

A number of people were unable to get Nexus One running under 7-Eleven (Rogers 2G in disguise), in which the N1 is running 2.1. 7-Eleven's configuration requires proxy server setting and this setting is not picked up properly by 2.1, hence data wouldn't work. (They were able to get access via alternate browsers that accept proxy settings.)

With 2.2, this bug has been fixed. Android phones running 2.2 are able to access 7-Eleven without further modifications.

**IDEA_NXT** · 09-02-2010, 03:28 PM

See here [message #74]:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...g-option/page5

**VERTiG0** · 09-02-2010, 07:42 PM

Works like a dream. I almost always kept it on 2G only because then I could get 3 days of battery life instead of 1 day. Turned 3G on to update my stuff or do some quick browsing.

**canadiancow** · 09-02-2010, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rogido

But why would Telus disable EDGE for data but not for voice?

EDGE is data-only.

But I agree that it doesn't make sense to disable it, because you could easily be roaming somewhere that doesn't have any networks compatible with the device's UMTS bands.

**l69norm** · 09-03-2010, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by 00taffy

Not sure, I am just sharing my observation. It seems others were having the same issue:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...-3G-%283.5G%29

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...1#post13993946

Another user had a different explanation. Could be.

That's a different issue. 7-11 is wap browsing via proxy only. On some android builds, the browser can't automatically pickup the WAP proxy config from the OS. There's nowhere to manually setup the WAP proxy in the browser itself so wap browsing won't work. The temporary fix is to use a browser (fennec?) where you can manually configure the WAP proxy settings.

A Desire likely would be on a proper data plan so you wouldn't need to go through a wap browsing proxy. You can go direct to the internet.com APN.

It would be the same proxy issue with both 2G or 3G as the data APNs are the same (Gorogers.com and Internet.com)

Telus wouldn't be blocking Edge since they still need the phone to be able to roam when customers are in the US (AT&T 2G/3G). There are still lots of places in the US with only edge.

You can check if 2G is enabled by going into the HTC field test menu (If it still works on the Desire). Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the phone. Go to "phone information" and scroll down to "set preferred network type". It should say "WCDMA preferred". If it's set to "WCDMA only", you wont get 2G voice or data

**IDEA_NXT** · 09-04-2010, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by l69norm

That's a different issue. 7-11 is wap browsing via proxy only.

So is Rogers at locations where only 2G is available (as in the Thunder Bay thread). Rogers browsing under 2G uses goam.com/wapuser1/wap settings. Thus it is the same issue as 7-11 or Petro Can: an Android 2.1 device is unable to access data because proxy setting is not being read properly. This has been fixed under Android 2.2.