VM w/Intercept: Trying to make free outgoing calls with GV, GV Callback and SIPDroid

[lcstatema]

Using VM and Samsung Intercept:

So I have Google Voice, GVoice Callback and SIP Droid installed and (I think) configured right. I made some test calls last night and checked my account activity today. The test calls were charged as minutes used. Am I doing something wrong?

[primetechv2]

Sorry to redirect you, but...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...an-we-use-VOIP

[lcstatema]

I tried Nettalk. I understand.

My previous GV/GV Callback/SIPDroid situation worked seamlessly... why did I get billed for the minutes?

[primetechv2]

I tried Nettalk. I understand.

My previous GV/GV Callback/SIPDroid situation worked seamlessly... why did I get billed for the minutes?

Because you were actually using voice minutes, I'd bet If it worked that well, it seems to good to be true, thus it probably is.

[lcstatema]

So, is there a setting that I'm missing to avoid using minutes? Or is that where VM's no forwarding policy comes into play, thus blocking GV from working fully?

[lcstatema]

Also, would using Gizmo5 solve the issue or is that just chasing rainbows?

[primetechv2]

I hate to sound like a wet blanket but... using the dialer is pretty much akin to using minutes. Unless there's a third-party app running, you know.

The voice forwarding isn't really -- Google's just letting you call another number after you call them. Within their call. It subverts a lot But it isn't helpful when you already get nationwide calling without long distance fees.

[mdoggie]

I never was billed with my set up for GV Dialer/CSipSimple, sounds like you've just not done the steps correctly. Don't use google's official voice app as it doesn't go through the data network. Find GV Dialer and CSipSimple.

The steps, typically, are finding a SIP provider other than GV. I've used Sipgate.com without too much hassle. Once you get a free number from Sipgate, you then forward your calls from your Google Voice to the Sipgate number. Then, install CsipSimple on your phone and set up your Sipgate settings correctly. You can use it over Wifi AND over the network, but the lag is still pretty bad while going over the network, so try to use it over wifi if possible. You can give people your Google Voice number, and make and receive calls using the GV dialer app.

The 2nd most important thing to know is the problems inherent with the stock kernel and VOIP... the speaker location on the phone causes HUGE echo problems. So, the other option is to use a rooted kernel. This fixes the echo problems (sometimes), but also adds some other issues. Kind of a "pick your poison" situation.

[primetechv2]

A suggestion might be for you to use headphones when talking over VoIP. I'm not sure if this'll really work though, since when I have headphones in during calls I cannot be heard. But VoIP apps are different animals. YMMV. If you're really using VoIP, it's 100% data and thus cannot and will not reflect on your minutely totals.

Lag issues are related to the Intercept -- at least the Virgintercept -- being an EVDO Rel.0 phone, which is notorious for being just one step below the VoIP-friendly Rel.A. (In layman's terms... darnit.)

[tiredofcontract]

The problem isn't evdo rev.0 vs. Evdo rev.a but virgin forces all data through a proxy which last I heard they only have 1 of. So all data gets routed through Wichita, which adds latency. Latency is the problem with VOIP since there are some good codecs that can use very little bandwidth.

Try downloading fring. I can use it with my Gizmo number just fine, but latency can cause issues. You have to place the calls from the VOIP app, if you use the phone dialer you are charged.

Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk

[lcstatema]

I hate to sound like a wet blanket but... using the dialer is pretty much akin to using minutes. Unless there's a third-party app running, you know.

So, if I use a different dialer app will that keep me from being billed for minutes?

[tiredofcontract]

So, if I use a different dialer app will that keep me from being billed for minutes?

No, you must use a sip client like Fring or sipdroid that has it's own dialer. You must have a sip account or else you can't place a call without using minutes.

Sent from my Thundercats Intercept with Tapatalk Pro

[Null0]

Alot of confusing posts in here.


lcstatema: You need to do the following in order to get free outgoing calls:
a) Have a google voice number
b) install GV callback and SIPDroid.
c) sign up for a SIP account at a SIP provider.
d) setup SIPDroid to use that SIP account, and setup GV callback to call your new SIP number.

You are apparently lacking one of these.

[rpertusio]

If you set it all up correctly, it should go like this...

Dial a number and tap 'Send' --> You're prompted to use "GV Callback" or regular (choose GV Callback) --> Google then calls the phone# you specified in GV Callback options (like SIPGate) --> Which rings your CSIPSimple/Fring/SIPDroid --> When you pick up, you'll hear Google ringing the number you originally entered and it connects you.

- rp

[Null0]

If you set it all up correctly, it should go like this...

Dial a number and tap 'Send' --> You're prompted to use "GV Callback" or regular (choose GV Callback) --> Google then calls your Google Voice phone # --> Which dials your 'Sipgate' SIP number --> Which rings your CSIPSimple/Fring/SIPDroid --> When you pick up, you'll hear Google ringing the number you originally entered and it connects you.

- rp

The bolded content is not correct.

You know how you can choose call on the top left of the google voice website?
And then you choose the number you want to call, and the number it will call back?

Well, thats how google callback works. The app connects to the website and clicks on that for you.

Therefore, Google doesn't call your google voice number, it calls right to whatever number to want it to.

This means that when you use google callback, it'll only ring your sip number (or whatever number you input), and NOT every phone you have tied to google voice.