Will this rooting and droidwall procedure work on the HTC Incredible I ?
Plenty of discussion of rooting HTC Incredible phones out there. Google is your friend on the phone specific rooting. Once a phone is rooted then you can go to the Marketplace and install Droidwall and other apps (as long as you have enough memory and storage space..)
yes, rooting the HTC Incredible 1 is one of the easier ones. Do some you tube searching for that. The program I used is "unrevoked" I believe, there are dozens of youtube videos that show you every step. Just make sure you get a data cable for your phone first. then do a backup of all your contacts using the export function in people/contacts section of your phone. Also I do a backup of my 1000's of text messages using SMS backup app you can download in the market. This way when you're done rooting you can put your phone back the way you had it exactly. also your phone is required to have the sd card in it..make sure there is one in there.
Rooting is not so scary once you've done one or two, . If it all seems like voodoo to you, I bet there are guys on craigslist in your area that will do it for $20 , I see them everywhere around here in the "cell phones for sale" section. not a bad $20 bucks spent really. I do my own NOW but used to have someone else do them. you do have to know how to download files, move them from one place to another, etc. Not exactly brain surgery but there are a few steps.
good luck!
What makes it sometimes more difficult is if you have recently done the HTC upgrade to the new operating system. You might have to "downgrade" your OS to the older one to get the root programs to work. More steps.
Do I root the phone before or after I set up the phone with PagePlus ? Or does it not matter ?
I will be getting the phone soon and I want to know. Thank you.
You can root the phone after if you wish (that is what I did) but remember that typically after you activate a phone there could be a bunch of data activity downloading updates, etc. I turned off the 3G and set up Wifi then did the updates of apps etc.
Yea, i rooted, flashed custom rom, turned off mobile data, connected to wifi, signed in to Google, updated apps, then activated with Pageplus.
If u activate with Pageplus before u initially sign into Google, u could rack up a little data usage.
I've been playing with my Droid 2 Global to try to get the data locked down and I find that Droidwall leaks a little data. I've set it up initially with nothing whitelisted on 3G. I look at the call records and see entries for data usage. It is very small - my plan balance (The 12 plan) shows the data at 9.99 after about 2 days set up like this, but with the 12 plan, I am going to have to be very careful about data usage. I searched around and found a few things about droidwall that I didn't see mentioned here and might be useful for others. The first is that there can be 3G usage right after booting that Droidwall doesn't stop. That is not what happened in my case because I haven't restarted my phone during my testing, but if you want to be super careful about data usage, you should make sure you turn off 3G data before restarting your phone. The other thing that I learned is that enabling logging in Droidwall lets some data go through. I found this statement somewhere: When the log is enabled, DroidWall will let DNS requests from any app to pass thru - otherwise it would be impossible to show the IP addresses on the log.
That turned out to be some of my data usage. When I had logging enabled, the My Data Manager app showed some mobile usage for a lot of applications. The usage was small - all showed <.1MB (that is the finest granularity that My Data Manager shows), but when I turned off droidwall logging, no data usage was shown for any app. So unless you need it, you should make sure logging is disabled in Droidwall.
With Droidwall logging turned off, the My Data Manager App shows that the only data going through 3G is from the "Kernel". It is small, but without knowing what it really is doing, I don't know that there are not circumstances where it would be larger. I don't really think that it is likely to amount to much given the number of people who are using Droidwall very successfully to limit their data and the fact that I couldn't find any discussions anywhere about Droidwall leaking data other than the two cases that I outlined above.
pdxman1, just to clarify, have you verified that your phone is successfully rooted?
Yes it is correctly rooted. In general, Droidwall is doing what it is supposed to and the data leakage I have is very small. I think that it would be hard for anyone to notice it if they had anything else whitelisted. Although, I just checked and I am down to 9.98 MB data left on my plan. I'm going to leave nothing whitelisted on 3G for a while and watch it for a while - so far it looks like it is leaking about .01MB per day, but with such a short time in use, that is not a reliable figure. This is my first smartphone and there is really nothing that I absolutely need working over 3G, so I have time to just play with it. Ultimately I'm hoping that the 10MB will be enough to leave 3G data on all the time to get my gmail notifications and very occasional web browsing when I can't find a WiFi hotspot. Before I enable gmail over 3g, I want a baseline, so I will be able to tell how much data gmail uses.
I would assume that there is a small amout of data that is required by the OS to setup the 3G connection that would not be affected by Droidwall, especially on bootup, like IP address assignment, DNS assignment, etc. So this small amount of data makes sense.
BTW has anyone tried the Onavo lite app? It looks like it may do a lot of useful data management functions. It also looks like it can block 3G access for apps like Droidwall, but without rooting the unit. Too bad they don't have the data compression working yet.
Last edited by falingtrea; 02-24-2012 at 04:02 PM.
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BTW has anyone tried the Onavo lite app? It looks like it may do a lot of useful data management functions. It also looks like it can block 3G access for apps like Droidwall, but without rooting the unit. Too bad they don't have the data compression working yet.
Is there an Onavo Lite app that is different from the Onavo app? I can't find an app called Onavo Lite. I looked at Onavo briefly because the descriptions I saw make it sound like it is a data management app like droidwall, only better, but stopped investigating when I saw that it looked like it routes your data through its servers. I need a lot of convincing before I let some app have that much access to my data.
I think the Android version of Onavo is considered "Onavo Lite" because it does not have the data compression capabilities. The data compression is what requires data to go though the Onavo servers, so theAndroid version does not do that. I would assume that the data compression feature on iOS is controllable so you don't have to use it if you don't want to.
I think the Android version of Onavo is considered "Onavo Lite" because it does not have the data compression capabilities. The data compression is what requires data to go though the Onavo servers, so theAndroid version does not do that. I would assume that the data compression feature on iOS is controllable so you don't have to use it if you don't want to.
If that is true, then it might be worth another look. Please let us know if you try it.
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