Motorola (Etna) Droid Bionic discussion thread

**bizzshow27** · 01-26-2011, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by kbman

The problem has to do with the PMU and causes a variety of issues including severe overheating even while at idle, power fluctuations affecting RF performance and cold boot issues.

These things were told to me by someone who is testing the devices. I have no hands on experience myself.

If you want to believe me that's fine...if not...that's fine too.

I have no intention of disclosing or discussing anything about my sources.

Satisfying people's curiosity on internet forums is utterly worthless compared to their trust and my continued ability to have access to them.

If the reasons why aren't plainly obvious to you then I needn't bother explaining...sorry.

thankyou for clearing that up now let's see if motorola can fix it if not then I will pass

**Jestik** · 01-26-2011, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by kbman

The problem has to do with the PMU and causes a variety of issues including severe overheating even while at idle, power fluctuations affecting RF performance and cold boot issues.

yeah, I'd call that a major flaw

**ronaldheld** · 01-26-2011, 06:50 AM

kbman, the pmu problem is all hardware related, or a combination of hardware and software? The RF fluctuations are due to LTE or for all of the transmitters? I am asking so as to know if the other LTE phones could have this problem, or this is a T2 issue?

**Baldilocks** · 01-26-2011, 07:11 AM

If it affects the Atrix as well, it's not an LTE problem.

**kbman** · 01-26-2011, 07:52 AM

I asked if the PMU was a discreet component on the board like with the original Droid(actually a dual PMIC solution) which controls both the AP(Applications Processor) and BP(Baseband Processor), he said "Yes both".

I responded that that was bad because it meant that this could be laid directly at the feet of Moto because they selected that component as opposed to it having been an integrated chipset problem.

He said "Yup!".

**odiej34** · 01-26-2011, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by ushneb

Besides, the next Moto device could/would be better. I'm kinda hoping the DX2 will be LTE but reports are that it's 3G only.

I'd actually be perfectly happy with a dual core X on 3g. (Assuming that 4g is capped and more than 30.00 a month)

**Winston25** · 01-26-2011, 09:03 AM

I expect that PMU issue will be solved, shortly. This week. Maybe even today. (and don't ask me to say more)

kbman, I don't know who your source is but I am impressed. That is some very deep level information.

**kingoanklebreak** · 01-26-2011, 09:10 AM

I wish I had a friend that worked for Motorola. All my friends are lame lol. Good to know that it'll be fixed shortly. Maybe I can actually get a phone without having to wait forever.

**ronaldheld** · 01-26-2011, 09:41 AM

kbman thanks for the clarification. Winston, I appreciate hearing that information. I suppose I am back to just waiting...

**kbman** · 01-26-2011, 10:30 AM

Hi Winston! Thanks for the confirmation and I hope you're right about a prompt solution. I was shocked that an issue of this magnitude had made it through the pipeline this far.

I am very happy to hear it's being addressed.

I have some pretty good friends indeed!

**tavenger5** · 01-26-2011, 10:42 AM

What's everyone so upset about? Obviously the Bionics shown at CES, including the one I fooled with, were test phones without any final hardware or software. Of course moto is going to fix things before they release it - don't be silly...

There's a reason they put this stamp on the phones:

**Winston25** · 01-26-2011, 12:03 PM

Oh, and FYI. I wrote there was a non-LTE option for those that don't have LTE access. It has leaked.

**G_Raph** · 01-26-2011, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Winston25

Oh, and FYI. I wrote there was a non-LTE option for those that don't have LTE access. It has leaked.

This being the DX2 I assume that is coming in May....

**ShortSxit** · 01-26-2011, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by kbman

The problem has to do with the PMU and causes a variety of issues including severe overheating even while at idle, power fluctuations affecting RF performance and cold boot issues.

These things were told to me by someone who is testing the devices. I have no hands on experience myself.

If you want to believe me that's fine...if not...that's fine too.

I have no intention of disclosing or discussing anything about my sources.

Satisfying people's curiosity on internet forums is utterly worthless compared to their trust and my continued ability to have access to them.

If the reasons why aren't plainly obvious to you then I needn't bother explaining...sorry.

kb and Winston,

We always appreciate any information you willingly post for us. Thanks a ton!

**ShortSxit** · 01-26-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Winston25

Oh, and FYI. I wrote there was a non-LTE option for those that don't have LTE access. It has leaked.

Winston,

I thought you had mentioned that people without 4G access would be able to use a 4G phone with 3G and 3G data prices? Or were you talking about a similar phone that didn't have an LTE radio, as G_Raph suggests?