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    http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...h_tmobile.html

    I don't see how AT&T can fight the DoJ, FCC, Sprint, and Cellular South by the 9/20/2012 deadline.

    Their own lawyers say if the trial(s) take too long, the deal will be dead.

    Get ready to pay up AT&T. :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Nassour View Post
    I guess what pisses me off more than anything else is that arrogance with which AT&T entered the process,
    I guess if you had $39,000,000,000.00 to play with you'd feel pretty arrogant too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    I guess if you had $39,000,000,000.00 to play with you'd feel pretty arrogant too.
    Actually, no. Because unlike AT&T's CEO I understand that, at least occasionally, there are things that can't be bought. Just when I think the federal government isn't worth a bucket of ....., it goes and does something like this that at least gives me a glimmer of hope.

    Not much more, you understand, just a glimmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Nassour View Post
    A Vonage adapter walked in the door the other day and if I can make it work and play nice with my two Macs and three PCs I am so going to kick AT&T to the curb.
    Sounds like the beginning of a joke, a Vonage adapter and a Skype adapter walked into a bar and then...
    Moderator yahoogroups forum T-Mobile-US http://groups.yahoo.com/group/T-Mobile-US

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    Even though the deal between the two looks murkier every day, there still remains the bigger question of what's going to happen to T-Mobile? I think they come out of this scarred and with a bigger black eye than AT&T from the consumers view.

    Sprint can't afford to (nor should they) buy them, Dish just signed an agreement with Sprint so maybe they are out, so what choices does T-Mobile have?

    Although small, they do have a decent product offering and make money but I can't imagine what "Plan B" is going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billm261 View Post
    Even though the deal between the two looks murkier every day, there still remains the bigger question of what's going to happen to T-Mobile? I think they come out of this scarred and with a bigger black eye than AT&T from the consumers view.

    Sprint can't afford to (nor should they) buy them, Dish just signed an agreement with Sprint so maybe they are out, so what choices does T-Mobile have?

    Although small, they do have a decent product offering and make money but I can't imagine what "Plan B" is going to be.
    Another overseas carrier will pick them up. The DOJ said a sprint-t mobile deal is just as bad too. If i had to, i would have vodaphone pull out from verizon wireless and grab t-mobile. Run a network right. That rich mexican carrier dude who owns that prepaid delio here was interested, as well as china mobile..

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    Quote Originally Posted by danska View Post
    Another overseas carrier will pick them up. The DOJ said a sprint-t mobile deal is just as bad too. If i had to, i would have vodaphone pull out from verizon wireless and grab t-mobile. Run a network right. That rich mexican carrier dude who owns that prepaid delio here was interested, as well as china mobile..
    I don't think I'd want China anywhere near our Communication's Infrastructure, unless they ditch Communism, stand down their military, stop being a prick to Japan, the Philipines and other Asian nations as well as the US, and become free, which I don't see happening in my lifetime anyway. China's a great partner for trading, but beyond that, no way, they are becoming more a threat to us everyday, I wouldn't want to give them a free pass into our lifelines.

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    Well, ATT is always getting anything it after for according to WIKI
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T
    There's actually a strong support for this deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyhrn View Post
    Well, ATT is always getting anything it after for according to WIKI
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T
    There's actually a strong support for this deal.
    But I think for once they have really upset the regulators. So many firey hoops AT&T must jump through before the 9/20 deadline

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyhrn View Post
    Well, ATT is always getting anything it after for according to WIKI
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T
    There's actually a strong support for this deal.
    NAACP, League of United Latin American Citizens, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), and the Sierra Club

    It's great to have allies but what standing do they have for a telecommunications merger?
    What dog do they have in this fight?

    I'm not ant-union by any means but unions are interested in gaining numbers since they are hurting right now. It would be a complete opposite if it was T-Mobile acquiring AT&T. Even the Teamsters and UAW have gained membership by unionizing occupations that would not have been the norm years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antenna View Post
    http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...h_tmobile.html

    I don't see how AT&T can fight the DoJ, FCC, Sprint, and Cellular South by the 9/20/2012 deadline.
    neither Sprint nor Cellular South have standing to actually stop the buyout.

    The most interesting argument now is the DOJ claiming that they don't have to act on AT&T's buyout because now that the FCC application is withdrawn, there is insufficient procedural evidence that the buyout will actually happen or that AT&T has the intent to complete the buyout -- therefore DOJ would be wasting its time on a deal that 1) procedurally cannot said to be serious since there is no FCC application pending, 2) could change or drop at anytime -- both the DOJ and FCC have to sign off on the SAME deal and it really can only be the same if they are under review at the same time.

    I think this last point is important: Even if on paper, the deals look the same, if the FCC reviews the deal 2 years after the DOJ reviews it, well the marketplace could be quite different, the context of the deals could be very different. Already, VZW's buyout of the cableco's AWS spectrum had changed the landscape/context of the deal. So I agree with DOJ that AT&T must have applications to both the DOJ and FCC at the same time, and the same deal, otherwise it is pointless for DOJ to do the review and go to court (spending quite a lot of money doing so...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by billm261 View Post
    NAACP, League of United Latin American Citizens, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), and the Sierra Club

    It's great to have allies but what standing do they have for a telecommunications merger?
    What dog do they have in this fight?

    ......
    Black chiwawa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyhrn View Post
    Black chiwawa?

    Ok, that was a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billm261 View Post

    Ok, that was a good one.
    Thanks.
    Here is the link
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyhrn View Post
    Well, ATT is always getting anything it after for according to WIKI
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T
    There's actually a strong support for this deal.
    English please. Thanks!

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